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Job:40:15: Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
Probably a diplodocus or some-such

La:4:3: Even the sea monsters draw out the breast, they give suck to their young ones: the daughter of my people is become cruel, like the ostriches in the wilderness.
Probably a plesiosaur.
The behemoth could be a dinosaur i suppose, though it is not specific. It could be any large animal. An elephant, or a hippo. I believe it goes on to describe the creatures navel, and dinosaurs, hatching from eggs, do not have navels.

As for giving 'suck to their young ones'. Dinosaurs do not suckle their young, as they are reptiles, as are pleisosaur. It would have to be describing a mammal. Whales and dolphins perhaps.
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The behemoth could be a dinosaur i suppose, though it is not specific. It could be any large animal. An elephant, or a hippo. I believe it goes on to describe the creatures navel, and dinosaurs, hatching from eggs, do not have navels.

As for giving 'suck to their young ones'. Dinosaurs do not suckle their young, as they are reptiles, as are pleisosaur. It would have to be describing a mammal. Whales and dolphins perhaps.
Excuse me, what do you want us to believe:

The KJV Bible:



Or some stupid evil scientists:



Really, which one is more likely to tell the truth? Please use a bit of logic.
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Excuse me, what do you want us to believe:

The KJV Bible:



Or some stupid evil scientists:



Really, which one is more likely to tell the truth? Please use a bit of logic.
Hmm, perhaps you are right. Scientists are mostly communists and homosexuals afterall...
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The behemoth could be a dinosaur i suppose, though it is not specific. It could be any large animal. An elephant, or a hippo. I believe it goes on to describe the creatures navel, and dinosaurs, hatching from eggs, do not have navels.
If you look at pictures of Adam, he too has a navel. He was in God’s image, so God has a navel. I think that the navel was placed there before it was needed so that it would be there when it was needed. Who is to say that when God was making the animals he did not have a load of navels left over and just stuck some about the place. These are True Mysteries which lend beauty to Faith.

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As for giving 'suck to their young ones'. Dinosaurs do not suckle their young, as they are reptiles, as are pleisosaur. It would have to be describing a mammal. Whales and dolphins perhaps.
You have limited yourself and God. Take the Godly Platypus, which lays eggs and yet suckles its young. Were the sea monsters giant Platypuses?
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visit this website and please tell me why things said there are wrong.

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here is a good place to start: Noah's flood
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As we are currently discussing Why Atheists are so miserable, I have decided to start this new thread - to continue my '101 Reasons' Series with '101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG'.

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!
Nope it proves that The Old Testament and New Testament exist. But there is no conclusive proof that "God" wrote it. Doesn't the Old Testament actually state that Jehavah dicatacted The Old Testament to Moses ? So technically it was Moses who wrote it. But did he know it was God ?

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Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!
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If we all evoloved from Adam and Even then does that mean their children commited incest ? Where did all the other children come since they only had Cane and Adel ? Did Cane kill his brother and impregnate his mother ?

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Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!
Science is evolving to a point where the "Bing Bang" theory can be proven. There is evidence that God created the universe ?

If God created the Earth then who created God ? Everything has to come from somewhere.

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Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?

Checkmate - Atheist!


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Now why is it that Christans here can't discuss topics without derogatory insults towards another group of people with different beliefs ? What happened to "turn the other cheek" and "Love they neighbor" ?

Dinosaurs aren't mentioned anywhere in Genesis and neither were they part of Noahs journey prior to the great flood. Feel free to disprove it(just try to do it with the usual derogatory remarks though).



Ask any religously devout person who created thier Holy Book and the reply is always the same.

"We know God created The Bible because it exists" but it can never been conclusively proven because that is what faith is about isn't it ? They will belive it without question and damn people who choose to ask if it wasn't.

Please remember any picures of Adam "in Gods image" are humans interpreation painted some thousands of years later. Just like Christs, The Apostles and God there is no recorded image of them and all of them could be innacurate.

I am sure the ban stick will come out because its seems your aren't a democratic bunch(strange for Americans don't you think ?) but rather hypocratic in that you don't believe in rational debate.
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Nope it proves that The Old Testament and New Testament exist. But there is no conclusive proof that "God" wrote it. Doesn't the Old Testament actually state that Jehavah dicatacted The Old Testament to Moses ? So technically it was Moses who wrote it. But did he know it was God ?
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Where did all the other children come since they only had Cane and Adel ?
Adam and Eve had a lot more children than just those two.

Gen 5:3-5 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

So Adam lived for 930 years, and he and Eve were popping out babies one after the other the whole time, because God told them to "be fruitful, and multiply".

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Science is evolving to a point where the "Bing Bang" theory can be proven.
You seem to have a lot of faith in that notion.

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Now why is it that Christans here can't discuss topics without derogatory insults towards another group of people with different beliefs ? What happened to "turn the other cheek" and "Love they neighbor" ?
What are you talking about, friend? Who is insulting anyone?

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Dinosaurs aren't mentioned anywhere in Genesis and neither were they part of Noahs journey prior to the great flood. Feel free to disprove it(just try to do it with the usual derogatory remarks though).
Dinosaurs are mentioned throughout the Bible (Job 40:15, Job 41:1, Ps 74:14, Ps 91:13, Ps 104:26, Is 27:1, Is 34:13, and several others).

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I am sure the ban stick will come out because its seems your aren't a democratic bunch(strange for Americans don't you think ?)
You seem to be doing a lot of pre-judging of us. That makes you prejudiced. You are a bigot.

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but rather hypocratic in that you don't believe in rational debate.
"Hypocratic"? You mean we all promise to be good doctors?

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If a boss dictates a letter through his secretary, and the secretary types it, who is the letter from?
But the secretaries boss isn't a divine being and what happens if they hear something wrong ?

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Adam and Eve had a lot more children than just those two.

Gen 5:3-5 [COLOR=#3e6bae
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [/COLOR]a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

So Adam lived for 930 years, and he and Eve were popping out babies one after the other the whole time, because God told them to "be fruitful, and multiply".
So Adam and Eve had lots of children. Did those children then begat each other to create more children ? There is no mention of any other humans but their own off spring.

God told them to have babies and then they grew up to have babies with each other which is incest.


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Brother Percy - "These atheists are so retarded!". So not only do you insult athiest but he also mocks people with mental disabilities. I don't beleive that mental retardation is a matter to be fun off.

Brother Percy - "Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time." Oops he's at it again. Just because a group of people choose to have differing beliefs they are "dumb". But does he know what the defination of "dumb" actually is ?

So Percy seems to like insults.

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Dinosaurs are mentioned throughout the Bible (Job 40:15, Job 41:1, Ps 74:14, Ps 91:13, Ps 104:26, Is 27:1, Is 34:13, and several others).
A "behemoth" could be anything and completely open to interpretation.

The hebrew meaning is "large animal" or "meaning beast" so they could elephants, rhinos, oxs, giraffes or any other large animal by their standard.

A "leviathan" could be a blue whale, killer whale, squid or any other large sea creature. It does explicitly mention the the creature is a "dinosaur"

The modern hebrew meaning of "leviathan" is whale.

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You seem to be doing a lot of pre-judging of us. That makes you prejudiced. You are a bigot.
And you aren't you pre-judging others just because they have a different set of beliefs ?

What even happening to diversity ?

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"Hypocratic"? You mean we all promise to be good doctors?

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My mistake it should be hypocrite. But if are doctors then I hope you good at it.

You must also remember that The Bible was wrote in Ancient Hebrew, Koin Greek, Aramaic and other languages then it was translated again to English, this is where the King James version of The Bible comes from.

Due its age and condition there is some 1000's of pages missing and complete translations are still debated today.

It was only the First Council of Nicaea in AD 355 that The Bible was we know it began to be formed.

The council was headed by Emperor Constantine and it is where the earlist version of the "Lord's Prayer" was also formed.


I fully appreciate that everyone has different views and I also value those points. That is what diversity is all about. Sometimes you will listen and think "Hmm maybe that's right".

Science is not the enemy of human kind and neither was Charles Darwin. It's is obvious through scientific study that evolution happened on Earth and that humans were part of the chain events.

Without science we would not the ability to save lives, spread the message of peace and help one another.

It is my belief that we cannot save this planet until we all work together.
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And you aren't you pre-judging others just because they have a different set of beliefs?
It is very simple; those that reject the Lord Jesus Christ will burn in Hell for eternity.
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Reason 12:
Atheists support gay marriages yet also believe in evolution (and have the nerve to call it natural selection!) They are too stupid to see the paradox.

Reason 13:
Atheists think is makes sense to give wheelchair retards the best parking spaces even though the lazy cripples don't even have to walk.
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But the secretaries boss isn't a divine being and what happens if they hear something wrong ?
God is an all powerful being. It is impossible that his secretaries would hear something wrong.

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So Adam and Eve had lots of children. Did those children then begat each other to create more children ? There is no mention of any other humans but their own off spring.

God told them to have babies and then they grew up to have babies with each other which is incest.
I just finished explaining this in another thread.

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So Percy seems to like insults.
1. You are judging an entire community on the actions of one person.
2. There's a difference between insulting and putting the truth bluntly. Was Jesus insulting people when he said, "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"


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A "behemoth" could be anything and completely open to interpretation.

The hebrew meaning is "large animal" or "meaning beast" so they could elephants, rhinos, oxs, giraffes or any other large animal by their standard.
It could also be a dinosaur, but you seem to want to dismiss that possibility out of hand.

It could not have been an ox, because the Bible says, "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox." That wouldn't make any sense if the behemoth and the ox were the same animal.

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A "leviathan" could be a blue whale, killer whale, squid or any other large sea creature. It does explicitly mention the the creature is a "dinosaur"
Of course it doesn't. Why would you expect a book translated in 1611 to use a word that wasn't coined until 1841?

I noticed you didn't have any handy atheist apologetics for the mention of dragons in the Bible. The original Hebrew word tanniyn refers to any marine or land monster, so that one can clearly refer to dinosaurs.

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And you aren't you pre-judging others just because they have a different set of beliefs ?
Not at all, friend. There's a difference between judging someone and warning them about God's impending wrath. The Bible tells us that non believers are going to Hell, so how am I judging them by warning them of that fact?

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They reject the authority of the Pope, and our therefor doomed to hell.
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They reject the authority of the Pope,
Wrong thread. That goes under why atheists aren't as bad as Catholics.

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and our therefor doomed to hell.
That doesn't follow. Where does the Bible say that refusing to accept authority from some dress-wearing politician is grounds for damnation in Hell?

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Atheists ... also believe in evolution (and have the nerve to call it natural selection!) They are too stupid to see the paradox.
Actually, they don't. Natural selection is a mechanism of the process of evolution. Another mechanism is sexual selection. In any case, I don't really see how that's a paradox. Please elaborate.
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Actually, they don't. Natural selection is a mechanism of the process of evolution. Another mechanism is sexual selection. In any case, I don't really see how that's a paradox. Please elaborate.
If this mechanism is true please explain the
  1. The survial of stupid and ugly races people
  2. Why humans aren't perfect
  3. Why we are willing to do abortions.
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If this mechanism is true please explain the
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  3. Why we are willing to do abortions.
1. For starters, do you think God would consider these people "stupid and ugly"? The reasons could be many. They could survive because there are no predators around to kill them. They could survive because some people may like stupid and ugly and thus would procreate with them. They could survive because maybe they don't see each other as ugly. Etc.

2. Why should we be? Who says natural selection or other mechanisms of evolution are perfect? Maybe we eventually will be? Etc.

3. The survival of the mother, selfishness, stupidity, perhaps to kill off offspring of people who shouldn't be mating, and so on.
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Wrong thread. That goes under why atheists aren't as bad as Catholics.


That doesn't follow. Where does the Bible say that refusing to accept authority from some dress-wearing politician is grounds for damnation in Hell?

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18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Considering how you lot wholly reject Catholicism, I'd say you are all practically atheists yourselves.
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Matthew 16: 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Considering how you lot wholly reject Catholicism, I'd say you are all practically atheists yourselves.
But the Pope is nothing like Peter. For starters, why isn't your dress-wearing sodomite false idol allowed to marry, when Peter was?

Matthew 8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Why would you think of the Pope as a Master and a Father, when God specifically tells you not to do this?


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9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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