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Old 05-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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WHO Project on Health Implications of Cannabis Use. World Health Organization.



"While cannabis impairs performance in laboratory and simulated driving settings, it is difficult to relate the magnitude of these impairments to an increased risk of being involved in motor vehicle accidents. Students of the effects of cannabis on on-road driving performance have found at most modest impairments (e.g. Sutton, 1983). Cannabis intoxicated persons drive more slowly perhaps because they are more aware of their level of psychomotor impairment than alcohol intoxicated drinkers who generally drive at faster speeds (Smiley, 1986)."


"A suspicion that chronic heavy cannabis use may cause gross structural brain damage was provoked by a single poorly controlled study using an outmoded method of investigation which reported that cannabis users had enlarged cerebral ventricles (Campbell et al, 1971). This finding was widely and uncritically publicised. Since then a number of better controlled studies using more sophisticated methods of investigation have consistently failed to demonstrate evidence of structural change in the brains of heavy, long term cannabis users (e.g. Co et al, 1977; Kuehnle et al, 1977). These negative results are consistent with the evidence that any cognitive effects of chronic cannabis use are subtle, and hence unlikely to be manifest as gross structural changes in the brain."


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The major risks of acute cannabis use show some parallels with the acute risks of alcohol intoxication. First, both drugs produce psychomotor and cognitive impairment, especially of memory and planning. The impairment produced by alcohol increases risks of various kinds of accident. It may also increase the likelihood of engaging in risky behaviour such as dangerous driving, and unsafe sexual practices. While cannabis intoxication increases the risks of casualties in hazardous situations, it remains to be determined to what extent it increases the likelihood of engaging in risky behaviour.
Alcohol and cannabis intoxication appear to differ in their relation to intentional rather than accidental casualties. Alcohol intoxication is strongly associated with aggressive and violent behaviour. The relationship is complex, and the nature and extent of drinking's causal effect remains controversial at the level of the individual drinker (Pernanen, 1991; Martin, 1993; Pohorecky, Brick and Milgram, 1993). But there is good causal evidence that changes in the level of alcohol consumption affect the incidence of violent crime, at least in some populations (Room, 1983; Lenke, 1990; Cook and Moore, 1993). There is also increasing evidence to indicate that alcohol may play a role in suicide (Edwards et al., forthcoming). There is little to suggest that causal relationship of cannabis use to aggression or violence, at least in present-day developed societies.
Second, there is good evidence that substantial doses of alcohol taken during pregnancy can produce a foetal alcohol syndrome. There is suggestive but far from conclusive evidence that cannabis can also adversely affect the development of the foetus when used during pregnancy. A clear equivalent for cannabis of the foetal alcohol syndrome has not been established.
Third, there is a major health risk of acute alcohol use that is not shared with cannabis. In large doses alcohol can cause death by asphyxiation, alcohol poisoning, cardiomyopathy and cardiac infarct. There are no recorded cases of overdose fatalities attributed to cannabis, and the estimated lethal dose for humans extrapolated from animal studies is so high that it cannot be achieved by recreational users."


These are just a few excerpts that I've found from the World Health Organization that I've used as sources before.


I do think that we should reap the medical benefits of opiates as well. In fact, I mentioned the use of morphine in my previous post. Morphine is a very addictive opiate that was abused for years before it was used as a medicinal aid.


Also, I am not a druggie. I just like to take the occasional toke. It is just like others that smoke cigarettes, except I don't chronically smoke marijuana, unlike the many who chronically smoke tobacco.


Finally, Brother_Percy, this is about cannabis (marijuana) use, not cannibalism (eating people).


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This thread is about the Holy Bible and the illegal and dangerous narcotic marijuana. Unless you have something to say about the given topic, don't waste God's bandwidth with your spam. In the future your post will be deleted if it strays off topic or does nothing but advocate taking dope.

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Katy, I want to first thank you for providing additional evidence for the dangers of driving under the influence of marijuana. And second, since you posted it with the belief that it proved the opposite, I want to thank you for providing additional evidence that pot smoking makes one stupid.

As you can see from the first part:
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WHO Project on Health Implications of Cannabis Use. World Health Organization.



"While cannabis impairs performance in laboratory and simulated driving settings, it is difficult to relate the magnitude of these impairments to an increased risk of being involved in motor vehicle accidents. Students of the effects of cannabis {potheads} on on-road driving performance have found at most modest impairments (e.g. Sutton, 1983).
It clearly states that cannabis impairs performance. In this case, it impairs psychomotor ability. Any impairment to psychomotor abilities will have a detrimental effect on actions that require hand-eye coordination and quick reaction time – something like driving a vehicle.

And now for the second part on cannabis and driving:
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Cannabis intoxicated persons drive more slowly perhaps because they are more aware of their level of psychomotor impairment than alcohol intoxicated drinkers who generally drive at faster speeds (Smiley, 1986)."
The word “perhaps” is key here because it indicates that this is nothing but conjecture. It fails to provide any evidence or research to support the conclusion that cannabis intoxicated persons drive slowly because they are more aware. They could be driving slowly because of the detrimental effect of marijuana on their psychomotor abilities.

And finally, marijuana use and possession is illegal in this country. It states in Romans that you are subject to the laws of the land and if you resist those laws, you also resist God. It no longer matters if you can prove that marijuana is safe, the onus on you is to prove that God will overlook the transgression of federal law contrary to what The Bible states.

Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
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I love pot. It is the best thing ever created anywhere ever. Of all the weeds in the world, it has to be the best one. Does anyone here use marijuana? What about you, Brother_Percy, or you John Bois Ward?

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I love pot. It is the best thing ever created anywhere ever. Of all the weeds in the world, it has to be the best one. Does anyone here use marijuana? What about you, Brother_Percy, or you John Bois Ward?

We are not the least bit interested in hearing about the various ways in which you wallow in sin. Your information has been passed along to the DOF, so expect a knock on your door when you least expect it.

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The Bible clearly denounces Marijuana:

Proverbs 23:21, "For the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and drowsiness will clothe a man with rags."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 , "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."


A drunkard is the same as a reefer maniac.
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BTW, what is mooncheese? These slacker reefer addicts are always saying they have the mooncheese? Is it some kind of lung fungus?
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The Bible clearly denounces Marijuana:

Proverbs 23:21, "For the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and drowsiness will clothe a man with rags."

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 , "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."


A drunkard is the same as a reefer maniac.
Where have you ever learned that drunkard = marijuana user? That's a dumb thing to say. You're dumb.


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Where have you ever learned that drunkard = marijuana user? That's a dumb thing to say. You're dumb.


I'm not dumb, I don't sit around smoking "reefers" and feeling "groovy". I read the Bible!

What is different from the reefer addict and the drunkard? How many "drunk" goths go on killing sprees in schools? How many devil weed goths go on killing sprees?

Drunkards and dope fiends are one in the same. They try to blot out God from their evil black hearts with intoxicants!!!
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10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Finally, Brother_Percy, this is about cannabis (marijuana) use, not cannibalism (eating people).
I apologise, son. I must have read the title of this thread wrongly. I won't make the same mistake twice, because this is a VERY serious subject. And from what I have read, you openly admit to being a marijuaua user, so how can we believe a single word you say? You are probably high on drugs as you write this trash. Out robbing other people's homes to get your next 'fix'. Sharing dirty syringes with your loser druggy friends, sleeping in gutters and beside trash cans, with a filthy AIDS needle hanging out your arm.

That is no life, and if you think you've hit rock bottom now, just wait till the drug gets a real hold of you. Do you ever lash out at random strangers in the street? Think that is normal behaviour? Because that's the drug talking. That's what marijuaua does. Makes kids turn from decent respectable upstanding members of society, into psychopathic lunatics. Violent monsters who want to kill all their loved ones.

Just look a Luke Mitchell, he thought marijuana was just as harmless as alcohol. So he smoked it morning noon and night. Pretty soon he was dragging his 13 year old girlfriend into the woods, and gutting her to the music of Marlyn Manson. You think that's normal? Because I've got news for you - It's NOT!

Marijuana KILLS! Now that's a FACT!
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BTW, what is mooncheese? These slacker reefer addicts are always saying they have the mooncheese? Is it some kind of lung fungus?
Every hippie I ever met had it. Maybe it's that black layer that gets caked on to bare feet if they're never washed.
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I totally agree with Koty.Thompson and Duechon Mandick. Also, please show a case study where the marijuana user is forced (by addiction) to get his/her next "fix." The only reason marijuana is illegal now is because Mr. Anslinger (anti-marihuana lobbyist of 1937) stated that marijuana leads to the use of heroine and opiates when it, in fact, does not. There was one botched study that showed this trend, but it was botched by previous heroine/opiate use (before the marijuana).
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I totally agree with Koty.Thompson and Duechon Mandick. Also, please show a case study where the marijuana user is forced (by addiction) to get his/her next "fix." The only reason marijuana is illegal now is because Mr. Anslinger (anti-marihuana lobbyist of 1937) stated that marijuana leads to the use of heroine and opiates when it, in fact, does not. There was one botched study that showed this trend, but it was botched by previous heroine/opiate use (before the marijuana).
You're an idiot hippie the bible says all over the place that using marijuana and cocaine will make you go to Hell.
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Actually I think that marijuana is not that bad. If God created it along with other plants, then why shouldn't we use it? In this instance, I am talking about the medical benefits of THC within the plant.
Kotex, those benefits are available in prescription form. It's called Maranol. There is no need to smoke dope and risk God's Wrath in the form of emphesyma and lung cancer in order to quell nausea.

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Here we have the real motivation behind the medical marijuana movement. Thank you for demonstrating it once again, Kotex.
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You're an idiot hippie the bible says all over the place that using marijuana and cocaine will make you go to Hell.
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To reply to the original poster without giving myself a blinding migraine by reading all the silly posts these dopeheads keep sending, I will answer in the way that is only right...with Scripture.

Genesis 1 (AV1611 King James Bible)
29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Now I will tell you that Mary Jane is not an herb, it's not a tree, and it's not a fruit, nor is it meant to be ingested "for meat." If it's not any of those things, what is it?

It's what they call it when they are so dope-addled they look like retards...Mary Jane is a weed! It's so noxious even God doesn't mention it in the Bible. So to take it into your body is as mortal a sin as for a man to take another man into his body!

It's against nature!

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Amen, Doctor!
Here are a few excerpts from THIS article talking about the cancer risk.
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According to the study, the more times per day a person smokes marijuana, the greater the risk of head and neck cancers. People who use marijuana habitually for many years increase their risk of head and neck cancers substantially. "If you smoke a little, your risk increases a little," Dr. Zhang said. "If you smoke a lot, your risk increases a lot." The average user in this study had two to three times the risk of non-users.
The results of the study are particularly important now, as people who became habitual marijuana smokers in the 1960s are reaching older ages. "Because head and neck cancers – cancers of the mouth, tongue, larynx, and pharynx – take many years to develop, people who smoked large amounts of marijuana in the 1960s may just now be developing head and neck cancers," Dr. Zhang said.
Here is another article describing more 'benefits" of smoking reefer.
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Next they'll tell us that God doesn't really condemn sodomy and witchcraft in the Holy Bible.
Pastor i have a problem, the other night i was ripping bongage to the dome and i passed out and in my waking vision i saw god and he whispered to me "son please spread the word that pot is my creation and i bestoh it upon you and my people" does that mean its ok to smoke? because i was going to quit and beg forgiveness from the holy one.
Please give me guidance, do i tell my parents that the lord has spoken to me and given me permission so they will stop beating me when they smell the foul air or keep this secret and cry myself at sleep at night for lying to my parents? Please this could be a huge turning point in my life
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"sir" i am not here to argue simply to say that cannibus a.k.a. marijuana is...infact a plant and herb (Any green, leafy plant, or parts thereof, used to flavour or season food; Plant whose roots, leaves or seeds, etc are used in medicine)... and yes whether your simple and one sided mind thinks it does have medicinal qualities and purposes or not, its fact that it does.
And in proving that it is infact a plant and herb you can ask your god what he says about it.
Infact Id like to take this time to speak to people that take this seriously and arent on here just because they saw sick ideals and felt the need to respond like I did. Il more than likely never look at this site again and im not here to descredit or disrespect religion in anyway but its judgemental and single minded people like yourself's that despite the good you think your doing just spread more and more hate through an already damaged world and stop if from progressing... I mean what do you think your even doing, its comforting to know that these sick ideals are dying off fast and soon will be extinct but I pray that this god is as compassionate as you preach to those who belong because i have a crazy gut feeling that the majority of you will be rotting deep........deep in the depths of hell for your sad hate filled lives.
Let it be known that I dont give a damn what any of you have to say about this nor do I expect you to care or even read this but you people on here like to exercise the right to freedom of speech so I thought id exercise mine.
May god have mercy on you.
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