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Old 04-27-2007, 06:26 PM
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I don’t want your money, Jesus does.

They use cash in heaven?


Cash is used on Earth, to do the Lord's work. How could you deny God what He has given you?

No, since our POV is Jesus’ POV anybody who disagrees with it is Jesus’ enemy. We just want to help people before Jesus gets angry with them an smites them.

Is it wrong to want to help people?

It's not wrong to want to help people, but it seems to me that certain members of LBC take it upon themselves to do Jesus' smiting for him.

It's called tough love.

Tell me, if you had a child who was about to jump from an airplane wearing a backpack full of silverware instead of a parachute, wouldn't you correct the child? If the child insisted that the silverware would save her, wouldn't you correct her by any means necessary until she used the parachute?

That's all we're doing.

People come here confused by Pastor Feelgood's lies, thinking that the Bible is all pink and purple clouds and hippie lurve. That's a straight shot to Hell! We're trying to save them, and introduce them to Jesus' Onconditional Love!

Since the rest of the world hates us for being good people why are you upset we protect ourselves?

The world doesn't hate you. When enclaves form and hide from the rest of the world, it makes people wonder what they're either afraid to have anyone else see or what they're ashamed of.


Oh, yes, the world does indeed hate us. Here's the proof! http://www.landoverbaptist.org/mail/

Here's just one letter from the site, by a shemale who cannot even use appropriate language when writing to God's Favorite Church:

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Your views of woman are evil and unbiblical, I am a man and I love woman. I would consider one nice woman to have more value in god's eyes than all you Homers. I hope and prey that you all have your evil behinds thrown into hell forever while the woman in heaven laugh at you. **** YOUR CHURCH.
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Note that the author claims to be a man, but is named Kimberly! And says vulgar things! (Red text has been edited for profanity.)

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I don’t want your money, Jesus does.

They use cash in heaven?


Cash is used on Earth, to do the Lord's work. How could you deny God what He has given you?

No one gave me what I have - I worked for it.

No, since our POV is Jesus’ POV anybody who disagrees with it is Jesus’ enemy. We just want to help people before Jesus gets angry with them an smites them.

Is it wrong to want to help people?

It's not wrong to want to help people, but it seems to me that certain members of LBC take it upon themselves to do Jesus' smiting for him.

It's called tough love.

Tell me, if you had a child who was about to jump from an airplane wearing a backpack full of silverware instead of a parachute, wouldn't you correct the child? If the child insisted that the silverware would save her, wouldn't you correct her by any means necessary until she used the parachute?

That's all we're doing.

Actually, I was referring to activities such as were posted on another thread where a gang of bullies jumped on a gay schoolmate and beat him up. That's not tough love - that's just plain mean.

People come here confused by Pastor Feelgood's lies, thinking that the Bible is all pink and purple clouds and hippie lurve. That's a straight shot to Hell! We're trying to save them, and introduce them to Jesus' Onconditional Love!

Since the rest of the world hates us for being good people why are you upset we protect ourselves?

The world doesn't hate you. When enclaves form and hide from the rest of the world, it makes people wonder what they're either afraid to have anyone else see or what they're ashamed of.


Oh, yes, the world does indeed hate us. Here's the proof! http://www.landoverbaptist.org/mail/
I've read some of the mail on your website - from the looks of some of it, I'm amazed the folks who wrote it could find the power switch on the computer. I wouldn't sweat it.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:38 PM
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I've read some of the mail on your website - from the looks of some of it, I'm amazed the folks who wrote it could find the power switch on the computer. I wouldn't sweat it.
I have to agree with you on that part. But there are some here who believe that some of them may be evil geniuses, who just don't happen to be good writers.

It is entirely possible that they could be engineers, and build thermonuclear devices with which to attack us! Before we've planted the seed of Jesus' love in everyone!
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So, you're a rich, confused cult, with built up sexual fantasies of sodomy, which you are in denial about?
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So, you're a rich, confused cult, with built up sexual fantasies of sodomy, which you are in denial about?
No sir Were do you get that idea?
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:48 PM
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No sir Were do you get that idea?
Fair enough, I'm just piecing together these responses ...

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It's a church.

Actually, THE church, unless you've run across another which follows all of God's Word.
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You know, Jesus will not be mocked, fool. Every smart-mouth comment you post in this Godly forum is being recorded by the DOF and by Jesus himself. You won't think you're so clever once Jesus tosses you into the pits of hell, where you will surely spend eternity having your tongue peeled and your anal cavity reamed with steel brushes.
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Kindly refrain from suggesting that we are obsessed with deviant sexual practices in the future.
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Now, kindly stop obsessing over tobacco-fueled orgies of carnal delights, and focus your energies on opening wide that you may be filled with the white-hot love of Jesus!
Sexual innuendo
That's my favorite

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They want your money, the more of it the better.

They try to convince you that anyone who disagrees with their pov is your enemy.

They withdraw from society at large, sometimes going as far as building gated compounds to contain their members.
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No, since our POV is Jesus’ POV anybody who disagrees with it is Jesus’ enemy. We just want to help people before Jesus gets angry with them an smites them.

Is it wrong to want to help people?

It's not wrong to want to help people, but it seems to me that certain members of LBC take it upon themselves to do Jesus' smiting for him.

It's called tough love.

Tell me, if you had a child who was about to jump from an airplane wearing a backpack full of silverware instead of a parachute, wouldn't you correct the child? If the child insisted that the silverware would save her, wouldn't you correct her by any means necessary until she used the parachute?

That's all we're doing.
There is a vast difference between certain demise and uncertain, a better analogy would have been gambling, you know pick the underdog or the favorite. Anyway the inability to tell the difference between certain and uncertain = confused, follow?
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Fair enough, I'm just piecing together these responses ...

Sexual innuendo
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There is a vast difference between certain demise and uncertain, a better analogy would have been gambling, you know pick the underdog or the favorite. Anyway the inability to tell the difference between certain and uncertain = confused, follow?
There is nothing uncertain here. Either you follow every bit of God's Word, in His Holy Book, or you do not. Either you go to Heaven, or you go to Hell.

It's pretty darned certain! The only one I see in denial here is you!
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There is nothing uncertain here. Either you follow every bit of God's Word, in His Holy Book, or you do not. Either you go to Heaven, or you go to Hell.

It's pretty darned certain! The only one I see in denial here is you!
If only I could remember that one little line from every movie ever made involving some sort of rehab, I think it goes a little like this: "Denying you're in denial, is the first sign of being in denial." Probably phrased a bit more elegantly though.
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If only I could remember that one little line from every movie ever made involving some sort of rehab, I think it goes a little like this: "Denying you're in denial, is the first sign of being in denial." Probably phrased a bit more elegantly though.
You do realize that such a silly line works both ways right?
I could as well say that you're the one in denial, since after all, you'd probably deny it..
So stop this "denial" nonsense.


As for these vile accusations against God's Church:

In regards to money..
First, nobody at LBC want money for themselves, but to use it to spread the Word of God.
Second, God commands us to tithe. It's in the Bible, thus we must obey.
Third, you're actually giving back to God, as we own because God saw fit to let us.

And not assocating with sinners..
God commands us too! So just what is the problem?
We are not some cult, but simply doing the will of God.
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So you're a confused cult that believes everything they read in a dirty old book so blindly that they have lost all sens of reason or logic, blows money on churches for their imaginary friend while children are dieing of starvation and easily curable diseases, fantasize about sodomy, and threaten murder to those that do not conform, using that god commands it as an excuse? (that last one I gathered from other threads)

Good stuff, you're well on your way to being a 'Dangerous Cult'
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blows money on churches for their imaginary friend while children are dieing of starvation and easily curable diseases
Gothtard. You'll pay a couple of hundred bucks to get a new bolt pierced in your face; why didn't you send that money to africa?
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Gothtard. You'll pay a couple of hundred bucks to get a new bolt pierced in your face; why didn't you send that money to africa?
Godly point, brother.


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So you're a confused cult that believes everything they read in a dirty old book so blindly that they have lost all sens of reason or logic, blows money on churches for their imaginary friend while children are dieing of starvation and easily curable diseases, fantasize about sodomy, and threaten murder to those that do not conform, using that god commands it as an excuse?
So first you say we are confused, because we believe in the Bible without question.
And then you say we only use God as an excuse? (ie our faith isn't really true.)

So should you really be so sure that WE are the confused ones here, gothtard?
Pick one vile accusation, heathen, you can't have both...
No matter how much you may hate God and us; His humble servants.


As for doing those things you want us to do, such as give money to help curing disease etc..
Why should we?

Who makes people sick and poor, or/and could easily stop it but allows it? (which pretty much equals the same thing)
God does!

Why should we interfere with His will?
When He has smited someone, He had good reason to do so.
One has to be a fool to question God's motives, as being God, He always knows better than humans.
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Gothtard. You'll pay a couple of hundred bucks to get a new bolt pierced in your face; why didn't you send that money to africa?
Amen, Brotha! This crossdressin' vampire be tryin'a act like Judas up in here:

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When that snake Judas had tried to make a big deal about poor folk, JESUS had rebuked him. He had clearly stated that He be more important than any of the poor folk, and that it better for that costly ointment to be used on Him than wasted on the poor. We True Christians™ is supposed to be Christ-like in everything that we do, and it might be hard to put ourselves befo'e the poor, but that be what the Lord had done and we is called to do the exact same thang. Praise JESUS!!
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So first you say we are confused, because we believe in the Bible without question.
And then you say we only use God as an excuse? (ie our faith isn't really true.)

Pick one vile accusation, heathen, you can't have both...
No matter how much you may hate God and us; His humble servants.

Who makes people sick and poor, or/and could easily stop it but allows it? (which pretty much equals the same thing)
God does!

Why should we interfere with His will?
When He has smited someone, He had good reason to do so.
One has to be a fool to question God's motives, as being God, He always knows better than humans.
How to put this ... I'm not saying that your faith is wrong, just that it's not right. As for the both accusations, yeah I can have them both.

Actually a lot of the underprivileged countries today are in their situation because of war and manipulation. You see as soon as a war is over a lot of counties see the rebuilding process as an opportunity to make the nation in question dependent on them. So they bring their own businesses in to run the native businesses into the ground, and thereby destroy their economy. Hardly an act of 'God'.

As for myself, I do treat myself to my desires, yes, but I have also donated my last three summers volunteering in third world countries, and I plan on doing so again very soon.
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In regards to money..
First, nobody at LBC want money for themselves, but to use it to spread the Word of God.
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We True Christians™ is supposed to be Christ-like in everything that we do, and it might be hard to put ourselves befo'e the poor, but that be what the Lord had done and we is called to do the exact same thang.
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You needta stop puttin' words in folk's mouths. Though that do be typical unsaved behavior, so I is not in the least bit surprised. Where had I said anything in that post about money? The only mention of money in that post be in the scripture I had posted, but I personally hadn't said nothin' about it. I just said that we's supposed to put ourselves befo'e the poor, as JESUS had done! But we also is supposed to put the LORD befo'e ourselves, and the money that LBC get go to glurrifyin' HIS Word! So you see, Brotha Seeker do not be a liar, because puttin' yoself befo'e the poor do not mean you wants money for yoself.

And another thang... you does not need to be draggin' Brotha Seeker into my bidness and tryin' to hold him accountable for what I had said. Because even though they be no contradiction in our words (though you had tried to make it seem like that), I is only a lady, so I's never gonna be on the same level of understanding of God's Word that he be on. So if I ever says somethin' ignant (which I hadn't in this sitchation), don't be tryin'a push it off on him or any of the other Godly mens in this Church.
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Oh and Deaner, if reincarnation turns out to be correct, my guess is that you'll come back as a sheep
If you're implying I want to have sex with new zealanders you couldn't be more wrong gothtard.

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As for myself, I do treat myself to my desires, yes, but I have also donated my last three summers volunteering in third world countries.
Volunteering to do what? Do you really think mud-hut dweller's in africa need anymore help in the art of spitting in Christ's face?
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How to put this ... I'm not saying that your faith is wrong, just that it's not right. As for the both accusations, yeah I can have them both.
I'm not saying that you're a hellbound mormon, just that you're an idiot who's not going to Heaven. And no, you cannot accuse us of having blind faith, while not actually having faith at all. That's what's known as a contradiction.
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Actually a lot of the underprivileged countries today are in their situation because of war and manipulation. You see as soon as a war is over a lot of counties see the rebuilding process as an opportunity to make the nation in question dependent on them. So they bring their own businesses in to run the native businesses into the ground, and thereby destroy their economy. Hardly an act of 'God'.
O RLY? This is what the Lord tell us about war:

Deuteronomy 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.

How exactly are we supposed to eat the spoil of our enemies and take everything that is in their cities unto ourselves without ruining their economies? Think about it.
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As for myself, I do treat myself to my desires, yes, but I have also donated my last three summers volunteering in third world countries, and I plan on doing so again very soon.
Friend, redistributing your wealth to Thai ladyboys does not count as "volunteering in a third world country."
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And if the atheists turn out to be correct, my guess is that your consciousness will cease at death and there will be no afterlife. If that filthy JEW Sigmund Fraud turns out to be correct, my guess is that you wish to sleep with your mother, and if that drug-addled communist Bill Hicks is correct, then all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. We can spend all day speculating about the ludicrous and obviously false delusions of stupid heathens, or we can discuss the TRUTH of God's Word. I know which I'd prefer.
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How to put this ... I'm not saying that your faith is wrong, just that it's not right. As for the both accusations, yeah I can have them both.
Just like you can say something is not wrong, but still not right eh?
Obviously you can do alot of silly & illogical things, but that doesn't make them logical or clever..

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Actually a lot of the underprivileged countries today are in their situation because of war and manipulation. You see as soon as a war is over a lot of counties see the rebuilding process as an opportunity to make the nation in question dependent on them. So they bring their own businesses in to run the native businesses into the ground, and thereby destroy their economy. Hardly an act of 'God'.
I'd like to point you in the direction of Brother Temperance's most Godly answer..

But also, regard this simple fact: God controls everything.
So if what you say is true, then He allows it to happen.
Thus it is His will.

What's so hard to understand about that?

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Well, then the money IS for you after all, my dear SalvationSeeker, I suspect you are a liar.
As the sister pointed out, where did she ever mention money?
She didn't.


Also, do keep in mind that sister Lateefah is a woman and thus more confused and less intelligent than most men:
With people like you being the excpetion, as it's quite obvious that even a woman is less confused, and more intelligent, than you.
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Accualy, Landover IS a cult


In religion and sociology, a cult is a term designating a cohesive group of people (generally, but not exclusively) a relatively small and recently founded religious movement
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Accualy, Landover IS a cult


In religion and sociology, a cult is a term designating a cohesive group of people (generally, but not exclusively) a relatively small and recently founded religious movement
In that case, "accualy", you are an ignoramus.

Landover Baptist Church was founded in 1612, as you can clearly see in the banner at the top of the page. Does that sound recent to you?

We have over 150,000 members. Does that sound small to you?

Try thinking before you post your insults against God, little man! You're booking the fast-train to Eternal Hellfire with such commentary!

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