A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by ayerea

No i didn't and i apologize.
But in any case, on the tangent of those threads.
I am against people like you, because you hate and you destroy and you kill and you cause pain. All for a book. That you have no proof whatsoever is even true. It sais its true. but beyond that, you can't prove it.

What about all the evidence for Creationism?

And I personally am against people who hate. I dont hate you, i dont hate any person. But i find it so wrong to control and manipulate the thoughts of other people, and to teach hate for other people who are different then you.
Why do you believe in such a terrible thing? Why kill? Why hate?
So on that tangent, im here because i think the way you act on your beliefs is wrong, your beliefs have the right to exist, but they do not have the right to harm people.

I see the problem here. You need to follow God's Word, not your "conscience".

[ayerea]

But the difference is, i don't believe in the bible. I never truly have, ever since ive been able to read it, i haven't liked it and i haven't believed in it. So i trust my conscience. Because so far it works for me and i'm significantly happier from when i considered myself "Christian."
But i do see your argument. It is very good, and i admit i dont have a rebuttal to it. So we are at an impasse.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by ayerea

But the difference is, i don't believe in the bible. I never truly have, ever since ive been able to read it, i haven't liked it and i haven't believed in it. So i trust my conscience. Because so far it works for me and i'm significantly happier from when i considered myself "Christian."

You're thinking in the short term. You'll be significantly less happy when you're in the Lake of Fire. Besides, which is more important - being happy, or doing the right thing? With Jesus, you can do both.

[ayerea]

Well i am happy. And i am doing the right thing. I help people, i am kind, i am loving and i care for the health of the planet and all living beings on it.
What is so wrong with that? According to the bible thats what your suppose to be.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by ayerea

Well i am happy. And i am doing the right thing. I help people, i am kind, i am loving and i care for the health of the planet and all living beings on it.
What is so wrong with that? According to the bible thats what your suppose to be.

Care to cite some scripture in support of that? Nowhere does the Bible tell us to care for the health of all living beings. Are you a vegan or something? Those extremists are as bad as the Reds.

[ayerea]

Im vegetarian unless the circumstances merit that i eat meat. I have nothing against people who do, i just dont find it necessary to kill something to have dinner when i can go about eating in a less bloody manner.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by ayerea

Im vegetarian unless the circumstances merit that i eat meat.

What do you mean "unless the circumstances merit that you eat meat"? Unless you feel hungry? Unless you wander into McDonald's? Stop pretending to be a radical vegetarian extremist and get right with the Lord.

[ayerea]

By that i mean i have no other choice then meat. And McDonald's is utterly disgusting. I can't stand any of the food they serve there. And where in the bible dose it say eating meat is the way to be right with god?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Originally Posted by ayerea

No i didn't and i apologize.

I'm glad to see that you aren't as unreasonable as I first thought. You've got to understand, though, it's maddening for us to get this constant litany of "are you for real" posts simply because we believe that God's Word to us, as conveyed in the Bible and through the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, is real. Would that I had the patience of Christ!

It seems like we get singled out for disrespect in a way that persons of other faiths don't. I've read some Muslim web forums, and nobody seems to ask them, "Do you really think 72 virgins are waiting for you in Paradise?" Ditto with Buddhist boards, where nobody inquires, "If there's no God, then how exactly do we all get reincarnated?" Yet we, who take the time to explain our beliefs and back them up with chapter and verse in the Bible, have our sanity and honesty questioned constantly.

I suppose we simply need to accept that there's a lot of prejudice against Bible-believing Christians and leave it in God's hands. But that doesn't mean we have to like it.

I am against people like you, because you hate and you destroy and you kill and you cause pain. All for a book.

We don't hate anyone. We are simply against people who chose Satan or their own egos over God, and who further try to impose their beliefs on everyone else.

We see this in teachers indoctrinating our children by presenting ridiculous hypotheses such as evilution as facts. Ask yourself this--if the scientists really believe that the geological evidence favors evilution over intelligent design, then why are they so afraid of having children learn about ID as one competing theory and letting the evidence fall where it may? All we're asking for is a fair hearing.

Another manifestation of secular humanists imposing their beliefs on everyone else is judges who make up "rights to privacy" in the US Constitution that the Founding Fathers never put there (trust me, I've read it many times for my Constitutional and Biblical Law class, and the word "privacy" does not appear in the Constitution, or, for that matter, in the Bible). Liberals take this to amazing heights of stupidity. As far as I'm concerned, your phony "privacy rights" pretty much come to a dead stop when they're going to let some crazed Middle Easterner holding a sharpened plastic spoon fly a jet into the Sunday School classes in the Landover Baptist Church Prayer Tower.

As for why we do it, it's not for a book. A book is just printed pieces of paper in a fancy leather cover. The Word of God, however, is so much more than words printed on a page. See John 1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. We believe what we believe for the sake of the Word of God that is Christ Jesus, who suffered and died on the cross for the remission of our sins, and for our immortal souls.

your beliefs have the right to exist, but they do not have the right to harm people.

Whom have we harmed? Please give me their names, and I will mention them in my prayers. Lots of peope say we're hurtful, yet none of them has ever been able to give us a single name. I'm hoping that maybe there's more substance to your argument than that.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by ayerea

And where in the bible dose it say eating meat is the way to be right with god?

In the beginning of 1st Timothy, chapter 4. Meat is to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Pastor Billy-Reuben