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Old 12-10-2010, 09:12 AM
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Why does God sometimes reward evil people for their evil deeds, while ignoring goodhearted peoples need for help and support?

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For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23 clearly says that those who are sinners will be granted death, but yet i have seen so many people who clearly were evil sinners who were rewarded with great lives. Why is this?
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Why does God sometimes reward evil people for their evil deeds, while ignoring goodhearted peoples need for help and support.
Evil people go to Hell, good people go to Heaven. Seems pretty clear to me.
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Evil people go to Hell, good people go to Heaven. Seems pretty clear to me.
Thanks Cranky, but i am talking about why some evil people are rewarded with great lives while they are alive here on earth. They don't deserve great lives and should be send to hell immediately
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Thanks Cranky, but i am talking about why some evil people are rewarded with great lives while they are alive here on earth. They don't deserve great lives and should be send to hell immediately
It's partly our own fault for not having established a True Christian™ teocracy yet. A lot of homers earn large amounts of money by being prostitutes and a lot of wizards use magic to earn money. This is the sad reality but if we created a society based on Biblical Law we would finally be able to put a stop to these menaces and throw rocks at them until they die.
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It's partly our own fault for not having established a True Christian™ teocracy yet. A lot of homers earn large amounts of money by being prostitutes and a lot of wizards use magic to earn money. This is the sad reality but if we created a society based on Biblical Law we would finally be able to put a stop to these menaces and throw rocks at them until they die.
Allah(pigs be upon him) gave us Sharia Law through the Prophet Mohammad(pigs be upon him)
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Why does God sometimes reward evil people for their evil deeds, while ignoring goodhearted peoples need for help and support?
Well one must remember that God set the system up from the beginning to fail.
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It's partly our own fault for not having established a True Christian™ teocracy yet. A lot of homers earn large amounts of money by being prostitutes and a lot of wizards use magic to earn money. This is the sad reality but if we created a society based on Biblical Law we would finally be able to put a stop to these menaces and throw rocks at them until they die.
I like that idea.
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I am surprised to see the Imam broke away from lapping up his pig urine to post some more of his pagan ravings here.
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I am surprised to see the Imam broke away from lapping up his pig urine to post some more of his pagan ravings here.
Then ban him. Then we will at the same time get the rid of the horrible smell of camel urine. Clearly it is a win-win.
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Thanks Cranky, but i am talking about why some evil people are rewarded with great lives while they are alive here on earth. They don't deserve great lives and should be send to hell immediately
Because God takes the long view and knows those people will repent on their death beds like Adolph Hitler did.

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I have always been under the beleif that God rewards bad people so that when they die, the pain and suffering of Hell will be that much worse.
Those that are good need no reward as merely being BFF to Jesus is more than a person could ever wish for. Plus the fact we can feel secure (and smug, we earned that right) knowing we are going to Heaven.
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I wonder if these people are really happy? They may have their trophy wives, their Olympic swimming pools, private jets and yachts, European sports cars, prolonged holidays in the most beautiful places on earth, the finest food, they are waited upon hand and foot, they don't have a boss shouting at them, or have to get up in a morning but, I ask again… “Are these people really happy?”

How can they be when they know Jesus is frowning at them?

Look at these jigaboos, they live in squalor with rampant disease and poverty, but they are happy because Jesus is.

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Then ban him. Then we will at the same time get the rid of the horrible smell of camel urine. Clearly it is a win-win.
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Thanks Cranky, but i am talking about why some evil people are rewarded with great lives while they are alive here on earth. They don't deserve great lives and should be send to hell immediately
Can't you see that our temporary existence on this earth is a speck of dust at the start of an eternal pathway of which we shall travel down when we die?

Evil people being "rewarded", ahah! It's hilarious to even think of it like that when you know that they are going to spend an eternity in HELL!
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Why does God's treatment of others concern you?

Should you not be focusing your energies on pleasing God in your own brief life, so that you may spend eternity pleasing Him in the next life? Are you jealous of someone you think less deserving than you, coveting the life that person has and thinking you should have it instead?

Who are you to decide for God who is evil and who is good? God creates both evil and good; He knows whom He finds to be evil and whom He finds to be good.

He will cast those He finds to be evil -- the sweet little old lady next door who is a big fan of Oprahism's New-Agey hoodoo; the friendly atheist down the street who gave your daughter CPR and saved her life; the Hindu cashier at the convenience store who ran out to stop you when you dropped a $20 bill -- into His Lake of Fire for eternal torture at Judgment.

He will reward those He finds to be good -- all True Christians™, including the very godly Jeffrey Dahmer, who found Jesus shortly before his death -- by allowing them to serve and worship Him for ever and ever in Heaven.

You do not know by outward appearance what is in the hearts of others. You do not know that they will not find Jesus later in life and repent. God will make that determination.
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Then ban him. Then we will at the same time get the rid of the horrible smell of camel urine. Clearly it is a win-win.
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133. And they say: Why does he not bring to us a sign from his Lord? Has not there come to them a clear evidence of what is m the previous books?
134. And had We destroyed them with chastisement before this, they would certainly have said: O our Lord! why didst Thou not send to us a messenger, for then we should have followed Thy communications before that we met disgrace and shame.
135. Say: Every one [of us] is awaiting, therefore do await: So you will come to know who is the follower of the even path and who goes aright.
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I think it's because God is totally righteous and likes doing nice things for people when He feels like it.
Not His fault they abuse his graciously dispensed gifts.

One day all these "Well-Off" sinners will approach the throne and God will say, "I gave you a million dollars, an Aston Martin, and a swimming pool, and you STILL screwed this up?"

For another perspective, check out Matthew 6:2 - "Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. "

There is a similar principle at work here. The wealthy sinners on earth have their "reward", such as it is, but it's all they will ever get and it will one day fade away, whereas heaven is forever. The decay of their material wealth glorifies God in his permanence.

It's the same deal as why Christians face persecution whereas sinner "fit in".
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It's partly our own fault for not having established a True Christian™ theocracy yet.
You hit the nail on the head.

The real question should be: why do we tolerate a society in which evil people are allowed to be rewarded and even worshiped as idols? Why aren't they being stoned?
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You hit the nail on the head.

The real question should be: why do we tolerate a society in which evil people are allowed to be rewarded and even worshiped as idols? Why aren't they being stoned?
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Here is probably the best evidence i could find that shows that evil people will be punished and good christian people will be rewarded.

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1 Do not fret because of those who are evil
or be envious of those who do wrong;
2 for like the grass they will soon wither,
like green plants they will soon die away.

3 Trust in the LORD and do good;
dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
4 Take delight in the LORD,
and he will give you the desires of your heart.

5 Commit your way to the LORD;
trust in him and he will do this:
6 He will make your righteous reward shine like the dawn,
your vindication like the noonday sun.

7 Be still before the LORD
and wait patiently for him;
do not fret when people succeed in their ways,
when they carry out their wicked schemes.

8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
do not fret—it leads only to evil.
9 For those who are evil will be destroyed,
but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more;
though you look for them, they will not be found.
11 But the meek will inherit the land
and enjoy peace and prosperity.

12 The wicked plot against the righteous
and gnash their teeth at them;
13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
for he knows their day is coming.

14 The wicked draw the sword
and bend the bow
to bring down the poor and needy,
to slay those whose ways are upright.
15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
and their bows will be broken.

16 Better the little that the righteous have
than the wealth of many wicked;
17 for the power of the wicked will be broken,
but the LORD upholds the righteous.

18 The blameless spend their days under the LORD’s care,
and their inheritance will endure forever.
19 In times of disaster they will not wither;
in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

20 But the wicked will perish:
Though the LORD’s enemies are like the flowers of the field,
they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.

21 The wicked borrow and do not repay,
but the righteous give generously;
22 those the LORD blesses will inherit the land,
but those he curses will be destroyed.

23 The LORD makes firm the steps
of the one who delights in him;
24 though he may stumble, he will not fall,
for the LORD upholds him with his hand.

25 I was young and now I am old,
yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken
or their children begging bread.
26 They are always generous and lend freely;
their children will be a blessing.[b]

27 Turn from evil and do good;
then you will dwell in the land forever.
28 For the LORD loves the just
and will not forsake his faithful ones.

Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed[c];
the offspring of the wicked will perish.
29 The righteous will inherit the land
and dwell in it forever.

30 The mouths of the righteous utter wisdom,
and their tongues speak what is just.
31 The law of their God is in their hearts;
their feet do not slip.

32 The wicked lie in wait for the righteous,
intent on putting them to death;
33 but the LORD will not leave them in the power of the wicked
or let them be condemned when brought to trial.

34 Hope in the LORD
and keep his way.
He will exalt you to inherit the land;
when the wicked are destroyed, you will see it.

35 I have seen a wicked and ruthless man
flourishing like a luxuriant native tree,
36 but he soon passed away and was no more;
though I looked for him, he could not be found.

37 Consider the blameless, observe the upright;
a future awaits those who seek peace.[d]
38 But all sinners will be destroyed;
there will be no future[e] for the wicked.

39 The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD;
he is their stronghold in time of trouble.
40 The LORD helps them and delivers them;
he delivers them from the wicked and saves them,
because they take refuge in him.
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