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I agree.

Last time my 4 year old told me "NO" I hit her so hard that I broke her jaw, and now she can not eat, let alone sass me.

I know I did the right thing according to God because the Bible I hit her with upon landing on the floor opened to Leviticus 23 and a drop of her blood was on the following passage....

"The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies."


That tells me she is it be held accountable for her actions.
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My father destroyed me with VA of weapons...whips,bats,knifes,pipes...you named it - it was broken from my head - the result is

i am an expert in demonology,necromancy,chaos magic,black arts...again you name it and above that every time my father try to kick me around he automatically gets LUCIFER'S TOUCH - one of the most destructive hex i know and eventually when i stopped living with him i send that curse from time to time to remind him that i am still out there and one day i will use his soul for my needs.
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Thanks for reminding us that The Bible teaches all we need, especially in the important arena of disciplining children. III John v4

However I noticed one or two words that are unlikely to be typo's and may suggest a remnant of papist influence: II Corinthians 13:5

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i am an expert in demonology,necromancy,chaos magic,black arts...again you name it and above that every time my father try to kick me around he automatically gets LUCIFER'S TOUCH - one of the most destructive hex i know and eventually when i stopped living with him i send that curse from time to time to remind him that i am still out there and one day i will use his soul for my needs.
This is a very powerful prayer against Witchcraft. This prayer can shut down witches and satanists forever. Being that this prayer basically shuts down the senders of the hexes and vexes by returning their evil to them sevenfold. I hurl it at you now in Christ's name!

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In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I plead the precious uncorruptable blood of Jesus over myself and my church and everything that belongs to us. I ask for giant warrior Angels to be loosed from Heaven to surround and protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undamn, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, physic prayers, physic thought, all witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, physic power, physic warfare, prayer chains, and everything else being sent my way or my family members way, and I return it and the demons to the senders right now!, SEVENFOLD, and I BIND it to them by the Blood of Jesus!

Father, I pray that these lost souls will find the light of your son Jesus.. Their own snares and traps have been set against themselves.. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I now loose them from all mindcontrol of satan!.. Father I also ask that you Bind the Holy Spirit to there hearts as a guide to your son Jesus.. So they may be set free from the bondages of satan.

In Jesus name I pray..
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i am an expert in demonology,necromancy,chaos magic,black arts...again you name it and above that every time my father try to kick me around he automatically gets LUCIFER'S TOUCH - one of the most destructive hex i know and eventually when i stopped living with him i send that curse from time to time to remind him that i am still out there and one day i will use his soul for my needs.
I'm assuming he beat you a little too hard about the head. Perhaps some body work would have smartened you up.
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My daughter was 3 months old. I had beaten her because she was crying too loud. In that night she died and that was a sign from God. I felt that God took her away because she was cursed. In that time i had bad thoughts about my friend. He had the better job and the better life then me. I was jealous that this man had so much more success. So i commited murder in my heart.

1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

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2 years later God gave me a son, and i was so thankful.


you are a sick person!! i recently had a daughter and i would never put my hands on her to hurt her in anyway!! i'm glad your daughter is now with god and she will watch you burn in hell when you die (hopefully a painful death)
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you are a sick person!! i recently had a daughter and i would never put my hands on her to hurt her in anyway!! i'm glad your daughter is now with god and she will watch you burn in hell when you die (hopefully a painful death)
Just because girls/women are unclean doesn't mean that they don't need to be disciplined

God often kills children because the parents (or one of the parents) has done something wrong. Look at King David, for example:

II Samuel 12
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And Dauid saide vnto Nathan, I haue sinned against the Lord. And Nathan saide vnto Dauid, The Lord also hath put away thy sinne, thou shalt not die.
14 Howbeit, because by this deede thou hast giuen great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the childe also that is borne vnto thee, shall surely die.

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I've read through the thread again, and checked out the scriptures, and can't find any support for the ridiculous position you seem to be adopting: that 3 month old children should not be beaten. You are under the influence of Satan, and unless you follow God's word you will be dragging your daughter along to Hell with you!!

God tells us:

Proverbs 22:15 Foolishnesse is bound in the heart of a child: but the rod of correction shal driue it farre from him.
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NOTICE HOW IT DOESN'T SAY "..bound in the heart of a child aged over 3 months.."? or "..the rod of correction (once they've attained the age of 15 weeks).."? as you are implying was God's intention. The Bible is quite clear:

Proverbs 30
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Euery word of God is pure: he is a shield vnto them that put their trust in him.
6 Adde thou not vnto his words, lest he reproue thee, and thou be found a lyar.

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God does not like people who tell lies. He tells us:

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not adde vnto the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish ought from it, that ye may keepe the Commaundements of the Lord your God, which I command you.
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You can choose Hell if you feel like being tortured forever in a lake of fire and brimstone, as described by God - but why condemn your children to the same fate? At least give them a chance!
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I actually like to defacate on my children and wife when they misbehave. I have found nothing against this the the KJV, if anyone wants to poi t it out that would be great.
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I actually like to defacate on my children and wife...
Spellcheckers are free, and really help maintain the illusion that you're more than a 12 year old troll when on a Baptist Church website.

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I am sorry but you are wrong! Yes spanking your children is the right thing tto do but beating them is not! If your child is cowering away from you then you are doing something wrong! Your infromation on gays is all mislead. NO ONE KNOWS WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED FOR HOMOSEXUALITY. It is an on going study. Children need to feel love and nuture from their parents as well as disipline. Beating a child creates criminals. You can teach right and wrong without abuse. Children are small, helpless at times and as it says in the bible innocent, so why beat them like criminals. You have your facts and veiws very twisted my friend. GOD DOES NOT WANT TO CAUSE CHILDREN PAIN!
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I am sorry but you are wrong! Yes spanking your children is the right thing tto do but beating them is not! If your child is cowering away from you then you are doing something wrong!
So the standard for acceptable physical punishment for you is the child cowering? I had one child who was so naturally defiant I could have beaten him to death before he'd cower. You'd suggest I should have beaten him to death because he never did cower. Well, I didn't. He's a Godly man now because I didn't follow the advice of parents like you who coddled their children, catering to some perceived "emotional need." Instead, I taught him to fear the LORD righteously.

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Your infromation on gays is all mislead. NO ONE KNOWS WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED FOR HOMOSEXUALITY. It is an on going study.
Scientific "studies" are wrong all the time. Consider phrenology. That was a scientific "fact" derived from years of "study." We rely on the Ever Perfect Word of God for Truth and Knowledge, and this Perfect Word clearly states homosexuality is an abomination unto the LORD. End of discussion.

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Children need to feel love and nuture from their parents as well as disipline. Beating a child creates criminals.
It's a shame you didn't watch Governor Romney trounce President Obama in last night's debate. You would have heard the cause of violence is not having two parent homes. The future president will work hard to convince young adults to be married before having sex, thus creating a perfect environment in which to raise a child - two God-fearing parents of opposite genders, same race, where the wife stays at home to cook and tend to the family.

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You can teach right and wrong without abuse. Children are small, helpless at times and as it says in the bible innocent, so why beat them like criminals. You have your facts and veiws very twisted my friend. GOD DOES NOT WANT TO CAUSE CHILDREN PAIN!
Please find in God's Holy Word where He states He does not want to cause children pain. Do you think God formalized the rules regarding the selling of one's daughter to be a slave/wife (today liberals might call her a "sexual slave") as laid out in Exodus 21:7-11 based on avoiding the child's pain?
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... GOD DOES NOT WANT TO CAUSE CHILDREN PAIN!
Then why does He send them to Hell if they're to young to understand how vile they really are?

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Why did He do this, just because some kids made fun of a bald guy?

2 Kings 2:24 "And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them."
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NO ONE KNOWS WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED FOR HOMOSEXUALITY.
Naming your kid Baylee is a good start. May as well name him "come nail my ass homo's".
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Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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I must say I fully agree -- My grandmother was a US born citizen and a governess of true up bringing of children under God. Her methods included regular punishment and spanking of us unruly children. I am so thankful to Her for every time She decided to have me given a corrective spanking ! I am a true believer and wish She was here to continue to spank me and correct me on the road to the way of Jesus.
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I'm 14 at this moment in time and can only wish that my parents would punish my this way for all my wrong doings in life, but instead they let me get away with it and now, don't get me wrong I'm not a naughty child but every now and then I slip up and where any other resonable parent would spank me or humiliate me, they do not, they just sit there.
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I'm 14 at this moment in time and can only wish that my parents would punish my this way for all my wrong doings in life, but instead they let me get away with it and now, don't get me wrong I'm not a naughty child but every now and then I slip up and where any other resonable parent would spank me or humiliate me, they do not, they just sit there.
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