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Now tell us how much money you get from the jews for saying that?
oh please come on...

she was innocent , she had done nothing wrong...
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person?

Unfortunately I am unable to judge fairly in this matter since I am a big admirer of Mr. Hitler....and I didn't even know anything about this Anne Frank person until I read about her in this thread. So I will not tell what my biased opinion is on this matter.

History tells us that Mr. Hitler did many wrongs in his life. But you must remember to always be critical to History - it is after all written by people.
A former United States Senator once said: "The first casualty when war comes is truth".
And we all know that it is the Victors of the war who write history, and not the one that lost the war.

The Viking story is a good example on how History can be polluted.
Now History tell us that the Norse people were savage barbarians, that killed, looted, burned and raped wherever they went.

But the fact is that the peace-loving scandinavian people lived in peace and harmony. They lived of the land and traded peacefully with the neighboring nations. Sure, they were heathens, but they just didn't know better.

The Vikings traded their goods in Naples, Constantinople, Antioch, on the north African continent etc. The goods they had exchanged from these "exotic " places, were then brought to northern Europe where they were sold. This was quite a profitable business for the Vikings - so good that the Vatican wanted to have a share in this profits.

Then the virgin worshipers sent their bishops up north to spread their heretic gospel, claiming it was to save the heathens from eternal damnation, but in reality it was their hunger for wealth and gold that drove them north.

These devious bishops then persuaded the Norse kings, with witchcraft and sorcery, to convert to the faith in the virgin. Then these converted kings were easy prey for the vatican: The bishop would just have to say: "Pay us x amount of gold or you will burn in hell!"

These bishops then systematically burned and destroyed all written norse texts in an attempt to wipe away this peace-loving peoples history: And one must say that they have been very successful doing this, because the few norse texts that "survived" are the one that were carved into stone.

Then bishops like Adam of Bremen and him alike have re-written history, where they claim that the Vikings were nothing more than barbarians.
They also tell about a hostile Viking invasion of England; this is of course nonsense, but nowadays it is accepted as the truth. The truth is that the Vikings immigrated to England due to overpopulation in the scandinavian countrys, and they integrated peacefully with the local population.

I think that it is somewhat ironic, that one of these converted kings, who slaughtered thousands of his country's population to impose upon them the new faith, was made a saint by the vatican.
Olaf II Haraldsson (St. Olav), was so merciless and brutal that it would make Djengis Khan blush.

Oops...I guess I got carried away from the topic here. But the point I'm trying to make her is, that things aren't always the way they seem to be.

It is inevitable that innocent people die in war. But I think that both sides are equally guilty when this happens, and I have no doubt that both sides kills about the same number of innocent people in a war: This is called Collateral damage.

Although Mr. Hitler was a superb strategist (without a doubt the greatest strategist in the 20th century), Germany lost the war (because of idiot-generals like Erich von Manstein and Heinz Wilhelm Guderian etc.). And we all know that it is the Victors that write the history and the posthumous reputation.

Is it not possible and perhaps even likely, that the Victors have "decorated" a little on the history here?! - Just to make Mr. Hitler and the german people into monsters in the eyes of the world, by exaggerating the Collateral damage into a, what they call, persecution of the Jews.

As for this Anne Frank person: Well, I suspect that this person never excisted...it is pure fiction!
We have to keep in mind what happened efter the war here: The Jewish people wanted to create the state of Israel, and the only way it could be created was if the United Nations was in favor of this.

It is with this in mind I a suspect that this Anne Frank person and these so-called atrocities were created: This martyr and victim effect must have had an enormous impact when the voting about the Israel state took place in the UN.

But like I said in the beginning of this post: I am unable to judge fairly in this matter, so I will refrain from expressing my opinion about who is the worse of the two candidates.
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Unfortunately I am unable to judge fairly in this matter since I am a big admirer of Mr. Hitler....and I didn't even know anything about this Anne Frank person until I read about her in this thread. So I will not tell what my biased opinion is on this matter.

History tells us that Mr. Hitler did many wrongs in his life. But you must remember to always be critical to History - it is after all written by people.
A former United States Senator once said: "The first casualty when war comes is truth".
And we all know that it is the Victors of the war who write history, and not the one that lost the war.

The Viking story is a good example on how History can be polluted.
Now History tell us that the Norse people were savage barbarians, that killed, looted, burned and raped wherever they went.

But the fact is that the peace-loving scandinavian people lived in peace and harmony. They lived of the land and traded peacefully with the neighboring nations. Sure, they were heathens, but they just didn't know better.

The Vikings traded their goods in Naples, Constantinople, Antioch, on the north African continent etc. The goods they had exchanged from these "exotic " places, were then brought to northern Europe where they were sold. This was quite a profitable business for the Vikings - so good that the Vatican wanted to have a share in this profits.

Then the virgin worshipers sent their bishops up north to spread their heretic gospel, claiming it was to save the heathens from eternal damnation, but in reality it was their hunger for wealth and gold that drove them north.

These devious bishops then persuaded the Norse kings, with witchcraft and sorcery, to convert to the faith in the virgin. Then these converted kings were easy prey for the vatican: The bishop would just have to say: "Pay us x amount of gold or you will burn in hell!"

These bishops then systematically burned and destroyed all written norse texts in an attempt to wipe away this peace-loving peoples history: And one must say that they have been very successful doing this, because the few norse texts that "survived" are the one that were carved into stone.

Then bishops like Adam of Bremen and him alike have re-written history, where they claim that the Vikings were nothing more than barbarians.
They also tell about a hostile Viking invasion of England; this is of course nonsense, but nowadays it is accepted as the truth. The truth is that the Vikings immigrated to England due to overpopulation in the scandinavian countrys, and they integrated peacefully with the local population.

I think that it is somewhat ironic, that one of these converted kings, who slaughtered thousands of his country's population to impose upon them the new faith, was made a saint by the vatican.
Olaf II Haraldsson (St. Olav), was so merciless and brutal that it would make Djengis Khan blush.

Oops...I guess I got carried away from the topic here. But the point I'm trying to make her is, that things aren't always the way they seem to be.

It is inevitable that innocent people die in war. But I think that both sides are equally guilty when this happens, and I have no doubt that both sides kills about the same number of innocent people in a war: This is called Collateral damage.

Although Mr. Hitler was a superb strategist (without a doubt the greatest strategist in the 20th century), Germany lost the war (because of idiot-generals like Erich von Manstein and Heinz Wilhelm Guderian etc.). And we all know that it is the Victors that write the history and the posthumous reputation.

Is it not possible and perhaps even likely, that the Victors have "decorated" a little on the history here?! - Just to make Mr. Hitler and the german people into monsters in the eyes of the world, by exaggerating the Collateral damage into a, what they call, persecution of the Jews.

As for this Anne Frank person: Well, I suspect that this person never excisted...it is pure fiction!
We have to keep in mind what happened efter the war here: The Jewish people wanted to create the state of Israel, and the only way it could be created was if the United Nations was in favor of this.

It is with this in mind I a suspect that this Anne Frank person and these so-called atrocities were created: This martyr and victim effect must have had an enormous impact when the voting about the Israel state took place in the UN.

But like I said in the beginning of this post: I am unable to judge fairly in this matter, so I will refrain from expressing my opinion about who is the worse of the two candidates.
Although not many will admit to it many atheists are with you on your admiration of Hitler because it is not the popular thing to do. Basically they are cowards that will not own up to the full implication of their science. I do take issue with your assertion that he did many things wrong. The science of evolution tells us that we came into being through billions of years of random mutation and then survival by natural selection. Morality is at it's core religious and there is no room for it in evolution. Therefore there is no morality and Hitler was only acting on his nature provided to him through evolutionary process. His only "wrong" was to try to speed up the process by giving his superior race an advantage. He should have let nature take its course. Otherwise his heart was in the right place and any atheist worth a modicum of his salt will tell you that.
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I speak for all Germans now, when I say Anne Frank is a lie! She was just a demonic fantasy of some unknown writer, who is surely burning in hell right now.
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Although not many will admit to it many atheists are with you on your admiration of Hitler because it is not the popular thing to do. Basically they are cowards that will not own up to the full implication of their science. I do take issue with your assertion that he did many things wrong. The science of evolution tells us that we came into being through billions of years of random mutation and then survival by natural selection. Morality is at it's core religious and there is no room for it in evolution. Therefore there is no morality and Hitler was only acting on his nature provided to him through evolutionary process. His only "wrong" was to try to speed up the process by giving his superior race an advantage. He should have let nature take its course. Otherwise his heart was in the right place and any atheist worth a modicum of his salt will tell you that.
Nice try Monkey Worshiper. The only reason you Secularists created you magical talking fish Tiktaalik was to justify having ass sex. All this talk about "eugenics" and "purifying the gen pool" is just cover for your real passion - Ass Sex.

You can bet your bottom dollar Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Pol Pot, Jimmy Carter and all the other atheists leaders in world history were having ass sex.
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Nice try Monkey Worshiper. The only reason you Secularists created you magical talking fish Tiktaalik was to justify having ass sex. All this talk about "eugenics" and "purifying the gen pool" is just cover for your real passion - Ass Sex.

You can bet your bottom dollar Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Pol Pot, Jimmy Carter and all the other atheists leaders in world history were having ass sex.
bobby-joe,

Your obsession with sodomy is disturbing. You should seek counseling. Were you recently released form prison?
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Your obsession with sodomy is disturbing. You should seek counseling. Were you recently released form prison?
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Since you like most atheists you are slow on the uptake so I will explain this to you; You are the atheist here Bob. Ass sex is against my religion, not your's.

As they say; if the bathhouse fits,...
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Since you like most atheists you are slow on the uptake so I will explain this to you; You are the atheist here Bob. Ass sex is against my religion, not your's.

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dear booby-joe,

True, it is not against my religion, because I DON'T HAVE ONE. You say it's against yours but you seem obsessed with it. Freudian psychology tells us that you are suppressing these urges that you describe in your posts. I would recommend that you seek help from an experienced Freudian atheist psychologist. He/she will likely recommend that you release these frustrations by acting on them, but that will be his call. I can only make the suggestion.
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True, it is not against my religion, because I DON'T HAVE ONE. You say it's against yours but you seem obsessed with it. Freudian psychology tells us that you are suppressing these urges that you describe in your posts. I would recommend that you seek help from an experienced Freudian atheist psychologist. He/she will likely recommend that you release these frustrations by acting on them, but that will be his call. I can only make the suggestion.
Fraud was nothing but a sex crazy pervert. Why should we listen to anything he has to say? Wouldn't you rather go to Heaven than read worldly trash like that?

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Fraud was nothing but a sex crazy pervert. Why should we listen to anything he has to say? Wouldn't you rather go to Heaven than read worldly trash like that?

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
You have a right to your point of view. I can respect that but use of the word "pervert" assumes some kind of moral standard, which the science of evolution has proven as non-existent. As an evolutionist Freud recognized this scientific fact. I feel compelled to point out that Freud's theories are used across the world by thousands of respected profesionals. Not something you can ignore.
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True, it is not against my religion, because I DON'T HAVE ONE.[You say it's against yours but you seem obsessed with it. Freudian psychology tells us that you are suppressing these urges that you describe in your posts. I would recommend that you seek help from an experienced Freudian atheist psychologist.
You will have to help me but my impression of Freud was he would explain it in terms of me as a baby watching my parents having sex while wanting to take a dump and then proscribe me some cocaine. I was also was under the impression Freud's ideas are considered quite outdated by modern psychologists. Are you sure you are Microbiologist professor?

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So with atheists you go to physiologists to sanction your gay unions? Do tell.
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People say she worked hard in Auschwitz +
?? Are you serious? Really?
Just because she was a jew didn't make her a bad person! Don't you feel bad about yourself?
Hitler was an intelligent man, no doubt, maybe too intelligent.. And he was 4/1 jew himself.. He killed alot of people, just because they were jews? .... He was not a hero or anything in the near of that. He was responable for the death of innorcent people. and Anne Frank was one of the victimes.
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You will have to help me but my impression of Freud was he would explain it in terms of me as a baby watching my parents having sex while wanting to take a dump and then proscribe me some cocaine. I was also was under the impression Freud's ideas are considered quite outdated by modern psychologists. Are you sure you are Microbiologist professor?

Anyway, I have been certified 100% NOT Gay by my pastor. That's the power of Jesus for you friend. 100% cure.
So with atheists you go to physiologists to sanction your gay unions? Do tell.
Interesting certifications your pastor gives out. What sort of exam did he give to make that determination?

We atheists go to psychologists to help resolve problems such as OCD, which is fixation on a particular topic. I don't need to mention again which topic you seem fixated on. If you are good with that so am I because the science of evolution proves there is no objective morality.
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He prayed to Jesus friend. The Power of Lord cleansed me of any gay germs.
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You mean those Freudian psychologists,..?
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which is fixation on a particular topic. I don't need to mention again which topic you seem fixated on.
Human psychology part of Microbiology?
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Are you a microbiologists or a sociologist? Your specialties are all over the place here Bob. Heck, even the prince of darkness himself PZ Meyers, against whom we TRUE Christians have witnessed against mightly, has made no such claim about microbiology. You know Bob, you have such a bad time keeping story straight, heck you don't even know Freud is outdated. I almost think you are an atheists pretending to be an atheists!

Well I suppose it would happen to you atheists sooner or later since your life is a total lie.

FACT ALL Atheists KNOW God exists. They just refuse to admit because they want to have ass sex with other men.

Just look at Myers - married to the same woman for 20 years instead of getting divorced three times like the Godly Newt Gingrich. Typical gay for you.
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You mean those Freudian psychologists,..?

Human psychology part of Microbiology?
Are you a microbiologists or a sociologist? Your specialties are all over the place here Bob. Heck, even the prince of darkness himself PZ Meyers, against whom we TRUE Christians have witnessed against mightly, has made no such claim about microbiology. You know Bob, you have such a bad time keeping story straight, heck you don't even know Freud is outdated. I almost think you are an atheists pretending to be an atheists!

Well I suppose it would happen to you atheists sooner or later since your life is a total lie.

FACT ALL Atheists KNOW God exists. They just refuse to admit because they want to have ass sex with other men.

Just look at Myers - married to the same woman for 20 years instead of getting divorced three times like the Godly Newt Gingrich. Typical gay for you.
I've claimed only to be a microbiologist, not a sociologist. I reference other discplines yes but only to prove my point. Your fixation is on gay sex.
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Well Hitler was a Catholic and a vegetarian(gay) so he was pretty bad even without the Jews thing. Anne Frank was Jewish and probably easy(no proper upbringing(jewish)) so being locked up with family probably meant incest. Another thing God smites for. Hitler suicided himself like a nancyboy, Anne Frank died from STDs in a camp in Poland or somewhere.

Catholic vs Jew
Gay vs harlot
Suicide vs AIDS

Ill have to think about this one.
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I reference other discplines yes but only to prove my point. Your fixation is on gay sex.
Let's follow this logically Bob
  • I am Christian
  • The power of Christ protects me against homosexuality
Logically I am NOT gay.
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  • The (false) religion of science cares no proscription against homosexuality
  • Further more science claims gender preferences for sexual partners are a matter of social conditioning.
Logically you are gay, since you are an atheist.

This clear enough for you Bob? Just look at the two examples here Hitler and Ann Frank; both aren't Christians so both were homosexuals. All the evidence is pointing to you being gay Bob.
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Let's follow this logically Bob
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Logically I am NOT gay.
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  • The (false) religion of science cares no proscription against homosexuality
  • Further more science claims gender preferences for sexual partners are a matter of social conditioning.
Logically you are gay, since you are an atheist.

This clear enough for you Bob? Just look at the two examples here Hitler and Ann Frank; both aren't Christians so both were homosexuals. All the evidence is pointing to you being gay Bob.
Okay bobby-joe if you insist. I'm still afraid of you because of what you said about wanting to cut off women's heads on the other thread.
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