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I was recently turned from atheist to Christian, but this may be enough to turn me back. I refuse to be associated with a group that doesn't study it's opponent's arguments. Of course, I don't want to be called atheist either, BECAUSE YOU DON'T LISTEN TO CHRISTIANS. It's one big troll war, and I wish I could move away. But, for the sake of knowledge, I will point it out for you:

Water starts the cycle in the ocean (I'm going for simplicity here). We drink the water, and it moves into our bodies. When we urinate, the water gets released into the toilets, which, after a while, end up back in the ocean.
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Water starts the cycle in the ocean (I'm going for simplicity here). We drink the water, and it moves into our bodies. When we urinate, the water gets released into the toilets, which, after a while, end up back in the ocean.
I thought this was a Godly forum where we could Praise Jesus all day and all night and know that we are in the company of other True Christians! But I come here to learn some science and all I can see is dirty words like "p*ss" and "*r*n*". I'm shaking here I'm crying so hard! You new people have defiled God's Favorite Forum! Do you ever hear about Jesus pissing? Did his apostles write about his pee-pee evaporating? Did he ascend into heaven through a cloud of urine?!? This is disgusting!

I'm literally weeping as I read this thread!

I think I need to bake a pie for Jesus now! Because if He came back tonight (and He COULD!), I for one would be ready for him on my knees with a pie JUST for HIM! So while you degenerate sinners talk about your darwin-savior theories and insult the LORD OF LORDS, I will be ready like the clever virgins waiting for the bridegroom to come! (Matthew 25:1-13)
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I was recently turned from atheist to Christian, but this may be enough to turn me back. I refuse to be associated with a group that doesn't study it's opponent's arguments. Of course, I don't want to be called atheist either, BECAUSE YOU DON'T LISTEN TO CHRISTIANS. It's one big troll war, and I wish I could move away. But, for the sake of knowledge, I will point it out for you:

Water starts the cycle in the ocean (I'm going for simplicity here). We drink the water, and it moves into our bodies. When we urinate, the water gets released into the toilets, which, after a while, end up back in the ocean.
What are you talking about? This is a well known apologetic that atheists can't answer. I got this in an email a couple of days before it was posted here.
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We know that there are windows in the firmament because God made it and has told us so - Genesis 7:11.
Similarly He has told us that the snow & hail are stored, as in a treasury or arsenal.

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Hast thou entred into the treasures of the snowe? Or hast thou seene the treasures of the haile,
23 Which I haue reserued against the time of trouble, against the day of battaile and warre?

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God made all these things. He knows everything about them. He has given us some information - but not all information. You might compare a recent purchase: the manufacturer will have provided you with some information (how to make the new cuckoo clock start ticking, say) but not everything (the coefficients of expansion for metals in the clockwork bit, for example); of course the manufacturer would actually know all of those things.

I despair of the reading comprehension skills engendered by state funded anti-God "science" education to such an extent that I probably should point out:
the manufacturer would know all of those things..because YOU WOULD HAVE TO KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS in order to MAKE THE CUCKOO CLOCK IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Questions of how the oceans come upon the earth or what constrains them simply do not arise. God Himself has told us:

HERE
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Then the Lord answered Iob out of the whirlewind, and sayd,
2 Who is this that darkneth counsell by words without knowledge?
3 Gird vp nowe thy loines like a man; for I will demaund of thee, and answere thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I layd the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast vnderstanding..
8 Or who shut vp the sea with doores, when it brake foorth as if it had issued out of the wombe?

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Heare now this, O foolish people, and without vnderstanding, which haue eyes and see not, which haue eares and heare not.
22 Feare yee not mee, saith the Lord ? Will yee not tremble at my presence, which haue placed the sand for the bound of the sea, by a perpetuall decree that it cannot passe it, and though the waues thereof tosse themselues, yet can they not preuaile, though they roare, yet can they not passe ouer it?
23 But this people hath a reuolting and a rebellious heart: they are reuolted and gone.
24 Neither say they in their heart; Let vs now feare the Lord our God, that giueth raine, both the former and the later in his season: he reserueth vnto vs the appointed weekes of the haruest.
25 Your iniquities haue turned away these things, & your sinnes haue withholden good things from you.
26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay waite as hee that setteth snares, they set a trap, they catch men.

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These things do not suddenly become false just because someone thinks up an alternative "explanation" obsessive types might subject their new clock to close scrutiny and "discover" the exact wood the cuckoos were carved from! Yee-haw!! (but guess what? the manufacturer already knows what wood he used for the cuckoos) psychotics may hallucinate a different infinite universe every 5 minutes but I would no more listen to them than waste time with their obsessional co-demoniac when the box announces:

BAVARIAN OAK CUCKOO CLOCK

MADE FROM GENUINE BAVARIAN OAK

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So the best argument the atheist can come up with is "we all drink other people's pee"?
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No... That is in no way our best argument. I read a thread earlier about experiments to prove the earth is flat. But you will not do simple experiments to show how water evaporates? Nowhere in the bible does it say that water does not evaporate.

bobbyruth, i am listening to the baptists, but what they're giving me is nothing that can be proven. When you talk about science (which this entire sub-forum is dedicated too), you have to understand what science is. Science is studying and testing and trying to prove.
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Nowhere in the bible does it say that water does not evaporate.
It says that you will James 4:14
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, i do not believe

i do not understand
There's your problem.
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So the best argument the atheist can come up with is "we all drink other people's pee"?
Well the only part thats gets evaporated back into the sky is the water, the stuff that your body flushed out doesn't go back into the sky.. So your not really drinking their pee.
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Well the only part thats gets evaporated back into the sky is the water, the stuff that your body flushed out doesn't go back into the sky.. So your not really drinking their pee.

Then how come the world isn't full of pee? Atheists just don't realize you need facts to prove their assertions
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Then how come the world isn't full of pee? Atheists just don't realize you need facts to prove their assertions
you'll have to understand that urine is in fact a cocktail of different fluids and chemical wasteproducts from the human body, much like feces. mammalian feces(mostly from cows and pigs) are oftenly used as fermentation for aiding growth of vegetables and fruit, so you are basically eating manure every day.

now back to the water-issue. no, you are not drinking "pee", you are drinking processed water that first went through a sewage treatment so that all hazardous chemicals and toxins would be removed before it then is distributed back into lakes, rivers, dams and whatnot. and when it is redistributed into society it has to go through a mild sterilization using small amounts of chlorine.

TL;DR this icky "pee"-water is thoroghly treated with antibacterial measures before it even reaches your house and/or well. (except in underdeveloped countries, because "god" decided that fat american fundamentalists should get to decide who lives and who dies)

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you'll have to understand that urine is in fact a cocktail of different fluids and chemical wasteproducts from the human body, much like feces. mammalian feces(mostly from cows and pigs) are oftenly used as fermentation for aiding growth of vegetables and fruit, so you are basically eating manure every day.

now back to the water-issue. no, you are not drinking "pee", you are drinking processed water that first went through a sewage treatment so that all hazardous chemicals and toxins would be removed before it then is distributed back into lakes, rivers, dams and whatnot. and when it is redistributed into society it has to go through a mild sterilization using small amounts of chlorine.

TL;DR this icky "pee"-water is thoroghly treated with antibacterial measures before it even reaches your house and/or well. (except in underdeveloped countries, because "god" decided that fat american fundamentalists should get to decide who lives and who dies)

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It is really not that a difficut concept to follow. Yes, in effect we are drinking the same water molecules that have gone through other humans, but we are not drinking their byproducts, those have been filtered out. also- animals have arisen on this planet within the last ~500 million years, the mathematics which are supposed to "disprove atheists" are wrong. also, to the girl whom baked the pie; please seek therapy, you seem to live a terrible life in which you feel that a cosmic zombie is going to appear and kill everyone.
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a cocktail of different fluids and chemical wasteproducts from the human body, much like feces
I thought these atheist drinking pee were weird, but no, it was not enough. So they are having some poo cocktails as well.

When ever I go to testify and convert in some gaysexual piano bar, I drink my Shirley Temples without any humans waste, thank you very much.
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you'll have to understand that urine is in fact a cocktail of different fluids and chemical wasteproducts from the human body, much like feces. mammalian feces
So atheists survive on cocktails made of poo. No wonder your theorys are always illogical, you're always drunk!
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So atheists survive on cocktails made of poo. No wonder your theorys are always illogical, you're always drunk!
Oh my Science.
A cocktail can mean more than just an alcoholic drink, and is most commonly used when referring to multiple drugs someone might take for an illness.

And as for the topic as a whole, didn't any of you pay attention in Junior High science class? They go through the water cycle like, ∞ times
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How does it rain?
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How does it rain?
Down usually. Sometimes to the side, depending on wind. Rarely, up, (in waterspouts and lawnsprinklers).

Why? Do you think that rain is 'new water' created out of nowhere?
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Down usually. Sometimes to the side, depending on wind. Rarely, up, (in waterspouts and lawnsprinklers).

Why? Do you think that rain is 'new water' created out of nowhere?
So it rains because, down usually? You don't make any sense, I said "how does it rain," not "which way does rain fall."
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For some reason I feel compelled to at least attempt an explanation.

Water does not appear out of no where so despite your most strongly (and wrongly) held opinion the water we have now on earh is the same amount we will always have. Water evaporates because as a liquid the molecules can easily change physical state from liquid to solid and in fact everything can change from a gas to a liquid to a solid and in the opposite order. The rate at which it changes depends on temperature, pressure, and for water the amount of humidity in the air. For example, you can heat up and boil your pot of water as I'm sure (or hope rather) many of you are very much capable of. If you can put the water in a container with less and less pressure the water will again change to a gas because there is less force pushing the water molecules together. YOU CAN EASILY PROVE THIS TRUE BY BOILING A POT OF WATER IN YOUR OWN HOME. If you refuse to do this then you are not only ignorant but you are incredibly naive. Your opinion doesn't change reality get over it.

As for how it rains, when enough evaporated water gathers together in the form of clouds and the temperature drops a bit the water molecules change from gas to liquid (hint: this is called condensation). There's an easy experiment for this too. Just boil your water again and hold a cold plate over the boiling water. You'll start getting some water condensing on it and then falling back into the water only to boil out again and then condense on the plate to fall in the pot and boil and condense, boil and condense etc, etc, for however long you wish. Now what could this represent? Is it maybe a very small version of the water cycle as it happens in the atmosphere? Yes it is good job kids.
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