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However, our modern wastes contain oil and other contamination that doesn't work with sedimentation, so sewage treatment facilities were built to ensure the safety of ocean animals.
Actually, most sewage treatment facilities, even in developed countries, are designed to treat only human waste and soap - most water treatment facilities are secondary with nutrient removal. Only a few are advanced tertiary (which involves removal of chemicals such as heavy metals and stuff - and it's very expensive). For your information, that's why you shouldn't throw stuff such as old medicines into the toilet - the secondary waste water treatment facility in your city/town/village isn't designed to handle these chemicals.

I don't want to bore you with technical details, but here is a basic description of these three stages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment

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But then, some stupid asshole factory owner would direct their sewage into rivers just to avoid sewage treatment costs, so we have other water treatment facilities to get our 'drinking water' drinkable again.
Treatment of factory waste and treatment of human waste are two totally different and unrelated things. I am talking here only about human waste treatment.
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Actually, most sewage treatment facilities, even in developed countries, are designed to treat only human waste and soap - most water treatment facilities are secondary with nutrient removal. Only a few are advanced tertiary (which involves removal of chemicals such as heavy metals and stuff - and it's very expensive). For your information, that's why you shouldn't throw stuff such as old medicines into the toilet - the secondary waste water treatment facility in your city/town/village isn't designed to handle these chemicals.

I don't want to bore you with technical details, but here is a basic description of these three stages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment

Treatment of factory waste and treatment of human waste are two totally different and unrelated things. I am talking here only about human waste treatment.
You were only talking about human waste treatment? Sorry. I guess I didn't find the deeper meaning in your previous post.
In fact, I have checked that link earlier. You seem to actually know a lot about actual science as a Christian, don't you? That's a surprising change.
Sorry, but I was never that interested in sewage treatment. Please forgive my ignorance on the subject itself.
I would just like to say that water is recycled. Where there were not any water treatment facilities back when there were dinosaurs, there are water treatment facilities now that treat the water that we use.
My main point is actually in my first post in this thread: water is not used-up. It's recycled back into nature, where we then use it again. Water does not simply 'disappear'.
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You seem to actually know a lot about actual science as a Christian, don't you? That's a surprising change.
Thank you. I guess that goes against your prejudice that all Christians are idiots

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I would just like to say that water is recycled. Where there were not any water treatment facilities back when there were dinosaurs, there are water treatment facilities now that treat the water that we use.
Since the waste treatment happens in man made facilities, and we both agree that there were no such facilities when dinosaurs were on earth (whether that would be 65 million or a few thousand years ago), your point is -
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My main point is actually in my first post in this thread: water is not used-up. It's recycled back into nature, where we then use it again. Water does not simply 'disappear'.
that we are drinking dinosaurs pee
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Thank you. I guess that goes against your prejudice that all Christians are idiots

Since the waste treatment happens in man made facilities, and we both agree that there were no such facilities when dinosaurs were on earth (whether that would be 65 million or a few thousand years ago), your point is - that we are drinking dinosaurs pee
I never said that all Christians are idiots. I just thought that all of the Christians here on this forum aren't willing to accept science. You proved me wrong there.
You know, here at school, we had a guest speaker who's both a Christian and a scientist at the same time. He said that there's no problem with it, and that God created science, and that we're just trying to understand it.
Yes. My point is that we are all technically drinking cleaned-up dinosaur pee. No side-effects whatsoever, so why not? Still better than not drinking anything at all.
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I never said that all Christians are idiots. I just thought that all of the Christians here on this forum aren't willing to accept science. You proved me wrong there.
You know, here at school, we had a guest speaker who's both a Christian and a scientist at the same time. He said that there's no problem with it, and that God created science, and that we're just trying to understand it.
I know what you mean. These are cherry-picking Christians, who chose which parts of the Bible to accept, and which not to accept. There is, however, a serious flaw in their logic. To be a Christian means to accept the Bible as true - all of it. You cannot just chose some selected passages that support your world view, while creatively interpreting others and rejecting the rest. You either accept the entire Bible as the Word of God or you don't. Hence, these people who say that evolution is the way how God created life etc, they are NOT real Christians.

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Still a disgusting idea
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You know, here at school, we had a guest speaker who's both a Christian and a scientist at the same time. He said that there's no problem with it
Is this the same school that said God loves everyone?

Have you not yet learned to be skeptical just because you hear something from a trusted person?

The idea that a person can be both a Christian and a secular scientist (that is what you are talking about, after all), is no more to the point than saying a priest can be a catholic and pedophile. In other words, who cares what two incongruent beliefs one person holds? In what way does that speak to the credibility of the belief?

The reality is, one either trusts God's Word to be true and free from error, or does not. There is no middle ground.
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I know what you mean. These are cherry-picking Christians, who chose which parts of the Bible to accept, and which not to accept. There is, however, a serious flaw in their logic. To be a Christian means to accept the Bible as true - all of it. You cannot just chose some selected passages that support your world view, while creatively interpreting others and rejecting the rest. You either accept the entire Bible as the Word of God or you don't. Hence, these people who say that evolution is the way how God created life etc, they are NOT real Christians.
Well, I don't know about that. I guess we just see things from different perspectives.

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Well, you'll have to deal with it. Your body is 70% water.
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Is this the same school that said God loves everyone?
Have you not yet learned to be skeptical just because you hear something from a trusted person?
The idea that a person can be both a Christian and a secular scientist (that is what you are talking about, after all), is no more to the point than saying a priest can be a catholic and pedophile. In other words, who cares what two incongruent beliefs one person holds? In what way does that speak to the credibility of the belief?
The reality is, one either trusts God's Word to be true and free from error, or does not. There is no middle ground.
Yes. This is the very same school. But then, every single Christian school here in Hong Kong says the same thing.
He said something about loving God, and I fell asleep because his talk was too boring.
Well then, looks like I have some upcoming research to do!
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I think the post was meant to prove atheism wrong, and I'm glad it was posted. Atheism is false, and people are just running away from the fact the God is real.

We don't need the Bible to tell us God is real. Look around you: the trees, the water, the sky, all these are proofs that God left behind for us.

God made the water cycle, and He doesn't need to show himself to let us know He's maintaining it.

You know, I don't even think it needs its maintenance. Take the sealed bottle garden for example. It is a garden in a bottle, sealed tightly, and only watered once, and it survives on its own water cycle (google it).

I think that's what God also did. He only made us once, so that means (like the bottled garden, metaphorically speaking) He watered us once, giving us what we needed to survive on our own.

Thank God, and I hope atheists can find their way to Him.

P.S., to be honest, what confused me the most in the first post is that the Bible said, "the world is 6000 years old."

I don't think so. I am a young Christian, and yes, I do read the Bible. But I've never stumbled upon the world's age. Anyone?
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I don't think so. I am a young Christian, and yes, I do read the Bible. But I've never stumbled upon the world's age. Anyone?
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I think the post was meant to prove atheism wrong, and I'm glad it was posted. Atheism is false, and people are just running away from the fact the God is real.

We don't need the Bible to tell us God is real. Look around you: the trees, the water, the sky, all these are proofs that God left behind for us.

God made the water cycle, and He doesn't need to show himself to let us know He's maintaining it.

You know, I don't even think it needs its maintenance. Take the sealed bottle garden for example. It is a garden in a bottle, sealed tightly, and only watered once, and it survives on its own water cycle (google it).

I think that's what God also did. He only made us once, so that means (like the bottled garden, metaphorically speaking) He watered us once, giving us what we needed to survive on our own.

Thank God, and I hope atheists can find their way to Him.

P.S., to be honest, what confused me the most in the first post is that the Bible said, "the world is 6000 years old."

I don't think so. I am a young Christian, and yes, I do read the Bible. But I've never stumbled upon the world's age. Anyone?
The genealogy of Christ is given to show us exactly how old the world was when He lived. Since God also created fifth grade math for us to learn at home between Bible lessons, His word is most clear as to the age of the universe.

You're not suggesting that the Bible is wrong or inconsistent about the historicity of our sweet Lord, are you friend? Many people have taken such an erroneous position on our forums to justify barbarous acts of sodomy and even mixed fiber wearing. I'm not saying you are doing that, but it happens.
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I'd just like to add that some half-educated dimwit is likely to show up here and claim that all the water we drink is eventually given off as sweat and urine. Well, just think about it – that would mean that all our streams, rivers, lakes and oceans would consist of sweat and urine. Every time it rains and snows there would be sweat and urine falling from the sky. The entire earth would be a giant cesspool of sweat and urine – we would be making our coffee from fresh urine from our faucets and bathing in sweat and urine. Well, logically you have to go with the Bible (KJV1611) on this one.

I don't mean to be rude, but piss off Atheists.
Atheists claim this too often. They usually say only the water part of it gets evaporated, but this is even worse- The water had been impure. That would mean that so many people (even sinners) would have urinated out the water, and we are drinking the impure substance. God would not have wanted this.
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Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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