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Hi son, it seems you've bought the adversary's lies hook, line, and sinker! "Oh we can't know which is the true church so none of them must be true!" and "Oh, I just happen to adopt Christian morals but I don't call them Christian morals so it's okay!"

The truth is that you've been raised to think in loopholes, excuses that rationalize the various lusts of the flesh. I'm sorry if your words are unconvincing to me, but you have a track record of lies and deception.

Greetings, Mary.

I apologize, but you seem to have misunderstood me. The meaning of my question was exactly as stated. If you have 10 (for example) churches saying that they're the true one while the other 9 are wrong, and every one is saying the same thing, how do you tell which one's the real deal?

As for those morals, those are hardly unique to Christians. I mean, pretty much every religion states that loving and honoring your parents is a admirable thing, and that we all should strive towards it.

I've been raised to never take everything at face value. Especially when it comes to important decisions. I ask questions, I do research, and I try to poke as many holes in that "something" as I can. If after that, it still stands and provides me with the answers I seek, then yes, that is something I should take note of.

Also, what track record? I have been on this site for what? an hour or so? And I already seem to have a track record of lies and deception.
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Greetings, Mary.

I apologize, but you seem to have misunderstood me. The meaning of my question was exactly as stated. If you have 10 (for example) churches saying that they're the true one while the other 9 are wrong, and every one is saying the same thing, how do you tell which one's the real deal?
Easy - the one that follows the faith of Christ, as plainly expressed, in black and white, in the Holy Bible. Pretend you're a rock in the heavens and your name is Pluto and you want to be called a planet. Well, you have to meet certain requirements, right? You can pretend those requirements don't really count, and like Mr. Smyth explained you can pretend other requirements are more important. At the end of the day, however, either you qualify or you don't, depending on the requirements. Well, the Lord God Almighty wrote the requirements down. He preserved them for us humans in the pages of the King James Version Holy Bible. Others can pretend all they want, they can even tell themselves they believe it, but it doesn't matter to God who knows better.

I would offer you the same warning as well - you can convince yourself all you want that God isn't real and the Holy Bible is naught but a rich, historical, mythological narrative of the Jewish, and then Christian peoples, but God cares not for your rationalizations. You either fit the qualifications (Salvation), or you do not.

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As for those morals, those are hardly unique to Christians. I mean, pretty much every religion states that loving and honoring your parents is a admirable thing, and that we all should strive towards it.
I understand for people like you, people without a moral code that transcends their own profit, all morals look the same. I understand that you would look at the Aztec religion and think of the hundreds of thousands of live sacrifices as being just another viable way to practice a personal religion. We know, however, that even something as simple sounding as honoring your mother and father is not universal, and how we honor them comes from how God changes our lives when we accept Christ into our hearts.

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I've been raised to never take everything at face value. Especially when it comes to important decisions. I ask questions, I do research, and I try to poke as many holes in that "something" as I can. If after that, it still stands and provides me with the answers I seek, then yes, that is something I should take note of.
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Also, what track record? I have been on this site for what? an hour or so? And I already seem to have a track record of lies and deception.
You're a confirmed atheist. Do you realize atheists are less trustworthy than pedophiles? It's true. I would no more trust a pedophile to tell me he has a decent moral code than I would trust an atheist to say the same. Neither know the meanings of the words "decent" and "moral."

In fact, atheists are known to be more dangerous than muslims, feminists, and even sodomites.
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Easy - the one that follows the faith of Christ, as plainly expressed, in black and white, in the Holy Bible. Pretend you're a rock in the heavens and your name is Pluto and you want to be called a planet. Well, you have to meet certain requirements, right? You can pretend those requirements don't really count, and like Mr. Smyth explained you can pretend other requirements are more important. At the end of the day, however, either you qualify or you don't, depending on the requirements. Well, the Lord God Almighty wrote the requirements down. He preserved them for us humans in the pages of the King James Version Holy Bible. Others can pretend all they want, they can even tell themselves they believe it, but it doesn't matter to God who knows better.

I would offer you the same warning as well - you can convince yourself all you want that God isn't real and the Holy Bible is naught but a rich, historical, mythological narrative of the Jewish, and then Christian peoples, but God cares not for your rationalizations. You either fit the qualifications (Salvation), or you do not.



I understand for people like you, people without a moral code that transcends their own profit, all morals look the same. I understand that you would look at the Aztec religion and think of the hundreds of thousands of live sacrifices as being just another viable way to practice a personal religion. We know, however, that even something as simple sounding as honoring your mother and father is not universal, and how we honor them comes from how God changes our lives when we accept Christ into our hearts.



Then read the Bible, dear. You'll learn much you don't yet know.





You're a confirmed atheist. Do you realize atheists are less trustworthy than pedophiles? It's true. I would no more trust a pedophile to tell me he has a decent moral code than I would trust an atheist to say the same. Neither know the meanings of the words "decent" and "moral."

In fact, atheists are known to be more dangerous than muslims, feminists, and even sodomites.
I'm sorry, but King James Version Holy Bible is the real deal? The REAL bible? As far as I recall, there are around 40 versions of the bible (please correct me if I'm wrong), yet the one published some 1600 years after the events it focuses on, is the real one?

How? What makes this version the correct one? What's wrong with the remaining 39 versions?

What is the criteria for determining which bible is the correct one?

Furthermore, the fact that there are so many versions of the bible already makes me question the reliability of the material. If there's so many people translating the bible, twisting it in accordance to their beliefs and values or working with different source materials, it's only a question of time when the result is a simple mess. Details lost in the translation, meanings given new form and so on.

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I have never said that god isn't real. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It's the lack of clear proof, solid evidence that makes me doubt his existence. I mean, if someone came up to me (or rather god himself did that) and proved god's existence with cold hard facts and I would then use the proof to see god with my own eyes then, yes, I would believe that god exists.

Until such proof is provided, I remain unconvinced.

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As for the rest of your post, regarding moral code, insults about pedophilia and so on. I will not comment on them, as I refuse to stoop to your level.
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...the one published some 1600 years after the events it focuses on...
Couple of comments here:

You don't make explicit what point you're trying to raise. I'd bet all of the other Bibles you've meticulously compared heard of were published after 1611 (when the original KJV was printed), which means they were written at a point in time even more removed from the events in question. So point goes to the KJV.

There are even older translations available, but I think you'd have trouble absorbing "English" like this:

Genesis 1:3 (Early Wycliffe) "And God seide, Be maad liȝt; and maad is liȝt"
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Couple of comments here:

You don't make explicit what point you're trying to raise. I'd bet all of the other Bibles you've meticulously compared heard of were published after 1611 (when the original KJV was printed), which means they were written at a point in time even more removed from the events in question. So point goes to the KJV.

There are even older translations available, but I think you'd have trouble absorbing "English" like this:

Genesis 1:3 (Early Wycliffe) "And God seide, Be maad liȝt; and maad is liȝt"
There's several things I meant in my post.

First of all, something so old should be taken with a grain of salt, since the author is working with values and beliefs that were actual in his time, but might have changed over the years.

I mean, there's such works like Odyssey and Iliad that also explain how the world came to be and so on, yet few (if any) people consider it gospel (I believe that's the term).

Also, if the KJV bible is the correct one, or at least the most accurate one, then what's the point of all the latter ones? I mean, if the one true bible came out in 17th century, and contains nothing but truth, then all the other versions that came afterwards are nothing but nonsense.

Then again, same argument could be made by picking a different version of the bible and then comparing others to it.

Besides, if KJV is the correct one, then what about the ones that came before it? What about following the vanilla version? I mean, if people are set to follow the most true bible of them all, logic dictates that the first version is the one to pick. Everything after that will be nothing more than a twisted version, that has been "adjusted" to be in accordance of the popular views of the time.

Either way, my question still stands. How does one determine that a certain version (apparently KJV in this case) is the real and correct one, and that others are nothing more than nonsense?
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There's several things I meant in my post.

First of all, something so old should be taken with a grain of salt, since the author is working with values and beliefs that were actual in his time, but might have changed over the years.

I mean, there's such works like Odyssey and Iliad that also explain how the world came to be and so on, yet few (if any) people consider it gospel (I believe that's the term).

Also, if the KJV bible is the correct one, or at least the most accurate one, then what's the point of all the latter ones? I mean, if the one true bible came out in 17th century, and contains nothing but truth, then all the other versions that came afterwards are nothing but nonsense.

Then again, same argument could be made by picking a different version of the bible and then comparing others to it.

Besides, if KJV is the correct one, then what about the ones that came before it? What about following the vanilla version? I mean, if people are set to follow the most true bible of them all, logic dictates that the first version is the one to pick. Everything after that will be nothing more than a twisted version, that has been "adjusted" to be in accordance of the popular views of the time.

Either way, my question still stands. How does one determine that a certain version (apparently KJV in this case) is the real and correct one, and that others are nothing more than nonsense?
The Holy Bible is the LITERAL word of God. It's not just "some old book." The KJV Bible contains all of the rules and standards that God wants us to obey. It's quite simple, really.

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Well im an atheist from the state of California. Being a atheist is a philosophical outlook that is very common in a devolved nation. Once knowledge is open to the general public atheism (the lack of belief in religion) will grow. As an atheist I also believe in no afterlife, this means that I have to live to the fullest in this live, many would say that atheists have nothing to live for but we atheists have every thing to live for because this is our only one and we make the best of it. To improve the lives of ourselves and everyone around us. We have everything to live for but nothing to die for. We do our best to spread peace and logic, I hope that you read this so people can realize that atheists are good people to with full and happy lives. Have a nice day
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Well im an atheist from the state of California. Being a atheist is a philosophical outlook that is very common in a devolved nation. Once knowledge is open to the general public atheism (the lack of belief in religion) will grow. As an atheist I also believe in no afterlife, this means that I have to live to the fullest in this live, many would say that atheists have nothing to live for but we atheists have every thing to live for because this is our only one and we make the best of it. To improve the lives of ourselves and everyone around us. We have everything to live for but nothing to die for. We do our best to spread peace and logic, I hope that you read this so people can realize that atheists are good people to with full and happy lives. Have a nice day

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Actually it's incredibly comfortable. Knowing there's no bullshit ("naughty word removed") like hell, no-one watching you masturbate or have sex, it's nice to have a little privacy don't you think? It's nice knowing that you don't have to spend an eternity in some "paradise", eventually that would become boring. Disappearing from all existence or spending the rest of everything with a bossy figure? I'd choose the first option.

(just reading some nice little posts you made)
We're not mentally ill, we just like looking at reality from a realistic and actually plausible viewpoint that doesn't involve fairies and magic and a hugeass, racist cranky old man.

...The daily shit of an atheist doesn't revolve around drugs or porn...

Jeeesus you guys can be racist. Atheism is like being a Jew, Negro or a Homo? Well personally I don't see a problem with being either. I'd like y'all to remember that without Judaism there'd be no christianity. Oh, and the human race originating from Africa, our ancestors were black, so right now you're just insulting you 80,000 year-old grandparents.
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Oh, and the human race originating from Africa, our ancestors were black, so right now you're just insulting you 80,000 year-old grandparents.
Wrong. We're all descended from Adam and Eve, and they were white, because they were made in God's image, and God is white. End of story.
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Actually it's incredibly comfortable. Knowing there's no bullshit ("naughty word removed") like hell, no-one watching you masturbate or have sex, it's nice to have a little privacy don't you think? It's nice knowing that you don't have to spend an eternity in some "paradise", eventually that would become boring. Disappearing from all existence or spending the rest of everything with a bossy figure? I'd choose the first option.

(just reading some nice little posts you made)
We're not mentally ill, we just like looking at reality from a realistic and actually plausible viewpoint that doesn't involve fairies and magic and a hugeass, racist cranky old man.

...The daily shit of an atheist doesn't revolve around drugs or porn...

Jeeesus you guys can be racist. Atheism is like being a Jew, Negro or a Homo? Well personally I don't see a problem with being either. I'd like y'all to remember that without Judaism there'd be no christianity. Oh, and the human race originating from Africa, our ancestors were black, so right now you're just insulting you 80,000 year-old grandparents.
Atheism is a disease just like the AIDS. It a conduit for the anal sex, drug use and liberalism.

Why do you think communism has failed? Because in decent free market capitalist countries the gaywise are put in their place. Why do you think this once great nation is going down the toilet? Because rampant atheism allows people to choose to be gay at the drop of a hat: ANY hat

The arrogance that atheism spreads is directly responsible for the separation between society and Jesus. And just look at the result: floods, hurricanes, school shootings, terrorism, disease and two term demoncrat POTUS.

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We atheists don't control weather, therefore we have nothing to do with floods and hurricanes, school shooters are depressed, mainly because of religion, terrorism is mostly caused by religious assholes and once again we don't control disease. It would be awesome if we could!
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We atheists don't control weather, therefore we have nothing to do with floods and hurricanes, school shooters are depressed, mainly because of religion, terrorism is mostly caused by religious assholes and once again we don't control disease. It would be awesome if we could!
God controls the weather, don't you even know that?

Job 28:25-27 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure. When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder: then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.

Have you even read the Bible? When you and your kind shun the perfect way of The Lord He gets mad and sends floods etc. Ever heard of Noah?

Atheist think it is based on the Summerian epic of Gilgamesh but if that was the case why was he called Noah and not Utnapishtim?

Shows how much atheists know. Jesus wins, again!

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Sorry to burst your bubble but a thing as God doesn't exist. Sorry!
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Just a question, as I haven't read the Bible for a long time (ever), I don't exactly remember a part in which Adam and Eve were described as being white. You knowing everything about that tiny book about fairytales, could you give me a link in which they ARE? Thanks!
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Just a question, as I haven't read the Bible for a long time (ever), I don't exactly remember a part in which Adam and Eve were described as being white. You knowing everything about that tiny book about fairytales, could you give me a link in which they ARE? Thanks!
Friend, even eviloutions agree, all people were descended from the white race of God. Over time, the lesser beings, serving their masters, developed dark skin to identify/differentiate them from their betters as a result for their work in the fields.
I have seen many bastard unwanted children who worked in the fields that over time, develop the same dark skin. It was a gift from God that the ungrateful never seem to appreciate.

Here is your link
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Must be awful walking around hating things all the time. Hating the trees, the mountains, the lakes, the grass. Hating it all knowing that God made it all.

No wonder they always rape, murder and end up gay.

With no moral compass and full of hate, they are dangerous.

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