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It isn't easy living in today's world, and Jesus never said it would be easy (2 Timothy 3:12). But living is what we've got to do until we're called home by the Almighty. And part of living is being able to face the false doctrines from the institutions of "higher learning" that are so hurriedly spun out like hot, acidic cobwebs from Satan's nether-region.

One of these oft-repeated lies is about earth's so-called "oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere." We're told this mixture that makes up breathable air must be so to keep us from blowing up the whole planet since "oxygen is flammable" (another piece of meaningless jargen).

Consider, for instance, this misinformation put out by NASA in an effort to mislead our youngsters on the formation of our atmosphere...

http://scijinks.nasa.gov/atmosphere-formation..

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1. Earth’s original atmosphere was probably just hydrogen and helium, because these were the main gases in the dusty, gassy disk around the Sun from which the planets formed. The Earth and its atmosphere were very hot. Molecules of hydrogen and helium move really fast, especially when warm. Actually, they moved so fast they eventually all escaped Earth's gravity and drifted off into space.


2. Earth’s “second atmosphere” came from Earth itself. There were lots of volcanoes, many more than today, because Earth’s crust was still forming. The volcanoes released

a. steam (H2O, with two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom),
b. carbon dioxide (CO2, with one carbon atoms and two oxygen atoms),
c. ammonia (NH3, with one nitrogen atom and three hydrogen atoms).


3. Much of the CO2 dissolved into the oceans. Eventually, a simple form of bacteria developed that could live on energy from the Sun and carbon dioxide in the water, producing oxygen as a waste product. Thus, oxygen began to build up in the atmosphere, while the carbon dioxide levels continued to drop. Meanwhile, the ammonia molecules in the atmosphere were broken apart by sunlight, leaving nitrogen and hydrogen. The hydrogen, being the lightest element, rose to the top of the atmosphere and much of it eventually drifted off into space.
Notice how stupid NASA is for putting up meaningless letters back to back (NH3, C02, H20, etc.) to show how smart they are! That is really stupid!

One need only look over this hoofed amalgamation of subjective wording ("Earth’s original atmosphere was probably just hydrogen and helium," etc.) to have their faith reaffirmed in the Holy Bible. Men bring doubt. God brings certainty!

We have the breath of God in us...

Psalm 150:6: "Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD."

Genesis 2:7: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

We have the wind of God on earth, which Jesus says no know one can see or fully know about, so that should be good enough for science. God's breath forms our very souls and brings in seasonal delights...

Job 37:10: "By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened."

Psalm 78:26: "He caused an east wind to blow in the heaven: and by his power he brought in the south wind."

John 3:8: "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

Jesus has not said a single thing about "oxygen" or "nitrogen" or "hydrogen" or "helium." Why do the scientific entities think they have to? Why must men speak where God has not spoken? The answer is because they are not born of the Spirit of which Jesus spoke. They are born of the spirit of the wicked one and they speak words of blackness and child rape.

So the next time some jabbering intellectual carries on about "atmospheric anomalies" and other such nonsense, you'd do them a heavenly service to remind them that all these years before a single white-coated scientist was even born, Jesus' breath theory was good enough for the entire world!

God has told me the truth and I need no other answer! Amen!!!

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Precisely, Pastor Lowman. The truth of the elements, for those who know how to interpret such things, is already revealed in the Bible.

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Actually, they moved so fast they eventually all escaped Earth's gravity and drifted off into space.
That would have been flatly impossible:

Genesis 1:6-7: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.

Don't the monkey-worshipers think we can read?
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Somebody needs some chemistry lessons. And by the way chemistry was in practice well before NASA had existed and was known that the atmosphere comprised of those molecules. It funny that you mentioned that oxygen burns, that is precisely how we know that oxygen is in the atmosphere. Do you drie a car? You wouldn't be able to without it. Oxygen in the atmosphere is inert (O2, a diatomic molecule. 1 of 7 that exist in nature this way) it must be mixed with a base fuel and ignited by a catalyst in order to break those bonds and burn. This is also what fire is too.

You people amaze me, how do you even have a computer? Do you cook food drive a car, burn candles?? What?

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Somebody needs some chemistry lessons. And by the way chemistry was in practice well before NASA had existed and was known that the atmosphere comprised of those molecules. It funny that you mentioned that oxygen burns, that is precisely how we know that oxygen is in the atmosphere. Do you drie a car? You wouldn't be able to without it. Oxygen in the atmosphere is inert (O2, a diatomic molecule. 1 of 7 that exist in nature this way) it must be mixed with a base fuel and ignited by a catalyst in order to break those bonds and burn. This is also what fire is too.

You people amaze me, how do you even have a computer? Do you cook food drive a car, burn candles?? What?

Why must everything you don't understand be the work of the devil? That is rediculous.
I suppose you believe that storms are caused by colliding fronts as well, despite the Bible's assertion that God causes weather patterns.

Please answer a straight question. What role does the Bible play in your belief system?
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Of course. Have you even piloted a small airplane and experienced the collision of these two fronts? I have.

Have you ever performed experiments detecting the different air flow patterns around a wing or other body? I have.

Many people believe in many different religions, most of which coexist in modern science. I believe the only way to find a true faith is for both science and religion to coexist together. Now I can't say for sure that the bible did not come from a word from god, but I can say that it was written by man whom interpreted this word of god and therefore would include their own physical representation of how the world existed in ancient times.

I for or am an Emperical Agnostic (not atheist there is a difference), where by definition I cannot say whether or not something is real unless I see it for myself. The bible is just one of many religious guideance books out there that claim they have the true faith.

I know you are going to come back and say that your religion is the right one just as a person from another faith would come back with the same response. One major reason that I am Agnostic.

I just boggles my mind that people such as yourself can live in the darkness away from reality without studying it for yourself. I cannot denounce a religion without learning about. And I think that you shouldn't be so quick to denounce science without learning about it.
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I for or am an Emperical Agnostic (not atheist there is a difference), where by definition I cannot say whether or not something is real unless I see it for myself.
You cannot say whether or not something is real, unless you see it for yourself? So on the one hand, you cannot believe in the existence of countries you have never been to. And on the other hand, you cannot deny the existence of a purple dragon directly in front of your face, because you can't see it?

As an agnostic, you are not only saying that there is no evidence for God. You are also saying that if there was a God, there would not necessarily be evidence of His existence then either. What sort of loose definition of God are you using, so that His Will would not be evidenced by states of the world?
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Should have know you'd go down that road. Bottom line is there is no proof that a god exists this is why there are so many religions, and on the other hand there is no proof that a god doesn't exist.

There is proof that a country like France exists because it is just there. I have yet to meet a person who says nope France doesn't exist.

Now lets go somewhere else. Time can be in the same boat there is some proof that time exists, however it is relative and therefore it may be said that time does not exist and it is a possible perception of the spatial universe.

I will leave it at that, I'm tired of tryin to convience people out of their idiocies. I am getting nowhere and amazed there are people out there that oppose science so much.
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Should have know you'd go down that road. Bottom line is there is no proof that a god exists this is why there are so many religions, and on the other hand there is no proof that a god doesn't exist.

There is proof that a country like France exists because it is just there. I have yet to meet a person who says nope France doesn't exist.

Now lets go somewhere else. Time can be in the same boat there is some proof that time exists, however it is relative and therefore it may be said that time does not exist and it is a possible perception of the spatial universe.

I will leave it at that, I'm tired of tryin to convience people out of their idiocies. I am getting nowhere and amazed there are people out there that oppose science so much.
Friend, faith in the Bible is the only necessary reason to write science off as a big Satanic conspiracy. It is people who believe in both who have the explaining to do.

As an agnostic, you cannot merely say "there is no evidence either way". You must also support the position that there would not be evidence of God were He to exist. Otherwise you are just an atheist who hasn't thought his position through.

The fact of the matter is there is evidence of God everywhere, as I have already stated. God is proven by the existence of moral goodness, and flesh eating bacteria, both examples of His Will being done in the world.
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The volcanoes released

a. steam (H2O, with two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom),
b. carbon dioxide (CO2, with one carbon atoms and two oxygen atoms),
c. ammonia (NH3, with one nitrogen atom and three hydrogen atoms).

...The hydrogen, being the lightest element, rose to the top of the atmosphere and much of it eventually drifted off into space.
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That would have been flatly impossible:

Genesis 1:6-7: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
Not only factually impossible, Pastor, but the scientists are caught in their own lie. If hydrogen is so light that it just "drifts off" into "space" then water (H2O in their code langauge) having 2 hydrogens would be twice as light and all the water in the ocean would just drift off. How stupid to they think we are???
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Somebody needs some chemistry lessons. And by the way chemistry was in practice well before NASA had existed and was known that the atmosphere comprised of those molecules. It funny that you mentioned that oxygen burns, that is precisely how we know that oxygen is in the atmosphere. Do you drie a car? You wouldn't be able to without it. Oxygen in the atmosphere is inert (O2, a diatomic molecule. 1 of 7 that exist in nature this way) it must be mixed with a base fuel and ignited by a catalyst in order to break those bonds and burn. This is also what fire is too.

You people amaze me, how do you even have a computer? Do you cook food drive a car, burn candles?? What?

Why must everything you don't understand be the work of the devil? That is rediculous.
Oxygen is NOT inert, it is a highly reactive element and is capable of combining with most other elements. There are hundreds of diatomic molecules, but only seven that exist at room temperature.

You are well on your way to failure when it comes to basic knowledge (along with egregious spelling and grammar errors), and it would be a waste of my time debunking all the other ignorant assertions you are putting forth.

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I have yet to meet a person who says nope France doesn't exist.
So if you did you would stop believing in France? No wonder you agnostics are so easy to fool that there's no God.
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If there were so much 'Nitrogen' in our air, we would suffocate! How stupid do the wack job secularists think decent, Godly people are?

Here is something I found online:
Name Chemical formula Percentage composition by volume
Nitrogen N2 78.1000%
Oxygen O2 20.9000%
Argon Ar 0.9000%
Carbon dioxide CO2 0.0300%
Neon Ne 0.0020%
Helium He 0.0005%
Methane CH4 0.0002%
Krypton Kr 0.0001%
Hydrogen H2 0.0001%
Xenon Xe 0.0000%
To those that believe this gobbledygook, fill a glass up 78% of the way with water. Try breathing it.
You see, I check things out for myself instead of just believing wild 'theories'.
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Not only factually impossible, Pastor, but the scientists are caught in their own lie. If hydrogen is so light that it just "drifts off" into "space" then water (H2O in their code langauge) having 2 hydrogens would be twice as light and all the water in the ocean would just drift off. How stupid to they think we are???
Yes, it would be if you combined two 100 pound weights and it would weight less than 100pounds. Oh wait...

You might be severely retarded. I'd seek medical assistance.
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Yes, it would be if you combined two 100 pound weights and it would weight less than 100pounds. Oh wait...

You might be severely retarded. I'd seek medical assistance.
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Yes, it would be if you combined two 100 pound weights and it would weight less than 100pounds. Oh wait...
Friend, consider if you were to hold one large Helium balloon that almost lifted you off the ground - then I were to hand you another. Would you sink to the earth under the now crushing weight of Helium balloons or would you go flying off into the firmament? This is simple logic - friend, please admit you would fly away - then I could save you by shooting down the balloons, otherwise you would be heading straight to Hell.
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Friend, consider if you were to hold one large Helium balloon that almost lifted you off the ground - then I were to hand you another. Would you sink to the earth under the now crushing weight of Helium balloons or would you go flying off into the firmament? This is simple logic - friend, please admit you would fly away - then I could save you by shooting down the balloons, otherwise you would be heading straight to Hell.
I see that you have got your medication. You are making much more sense now. Hopefully you have artillery, otherwise shooting me down would be very difficult.

Just to remind you: 1 ft³ of lead has the same buoyancy as 1 ft³ of helium or any other substance. It may seem counterintuitive, but not understanding this makes you retarded.
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