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Please supply Scriptural support for your position (hint: in John 13:34, Jesus was addressing a CLOSED group of believers) or shut the fu*k up.

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Are you saying god is wrong?
John 13:34“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."
Not at all dear. But I know who Jesus was talking to when He said "love one another." You might familiarize yourself with what Christ actually said:

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

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God tells us we should not feel hate with others. nor race nor, creed, no belief. We are all children of god. We are all loved by god. so we must all love each other.
Pray tell, in what chapter and verse do you find the command to not feel hate with others because of their race or creed? Where do you read all children are heirs of Christ? Why do you say everyone is loved by God when He says differently?

I would encourage you to read the Holy Bible, dear. All of it, not just the parts that you remember being told about in nursery school.

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Please do not insult me. Do not cuss at me...
I've done neither of those things (yet). The fact you want to take offense tells me that you haven't read the Bible enough to be a True Christian™.

Psalm 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law: And nothing shall offend them."

Add that to Ephesians 4:29, and I'd say that's it's YOU who have to very careful about what you say.

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please... i beg all of you.. to open your hearts to the world... to leave the hate in the world and love all... to punish the people who harm others. But to never hate them for it. To not judge a person for there race religon or sexual oreintation... every passage of the bible that promotes hate is evil.

If you claim me to be a sinner. Why is some one who promotes love and peace evil? Why are those who promote hate good? what is the logic of this...
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please... i beg all of you.. to open your hearts to the world... to leave the hate in the world and love all... to punish the people who harm others. But to never hate them for it. To not judge a person for there race religon or sexual oreintation... every passage of the bible that promotes hate is evil.

If you claim me to be a sinner. Why is some one who promotes love and peace evil? Why are those who promote hate good? what is the logic of this...
Are you saying that the Word of God is evil????
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please... i beg all of you.. to open your hearts to the world...
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to punish the people who harm others. But to never hate them for it.
You're confused, dear. We love people enough to show them the errors of their ways. We're not the police, we're Ambassadors of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:20).

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To not judge a person for there race religon or sexual oreintation...
The LORD commands us to judge righteously (John 7:24), and so we do.

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every passage of the bible that promotes hate is evil.
Where do you read a verse that commands True Christians™ to hate? I think you're making that up.

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If you claim me to be a sinner. Why is some one who promotes love and peace evil? Why are those who promote hate good? what is the logic of this...
You're a sinner until you've accepted Christ Jesus in your heart, as your one and only Lord and Master (Romans 10:9).
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And close them to God?





In defiance of God's Will?





You're confused, dear. We love people enough to show them the errors of their ways. We're not the police, we're Ambassadors of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:20).



The LORD commands us to judge righteously (John 7:24), and so we do.



Where do you read a verse that commands True Christians™ to hate? I think you're making that up.



You're a sinner until you've accepted Christ Jesus in your heart, as your one and only Lord and Master (Romans 10:9).
You damn the gays. you damn the heathens. you damn every one who does not conform to your ways of belifes. you dont try to understand them you dont try to love them.

the "love" you speak of is not love. But pitty, you look down with them with disgust, wishing they would go towards your path.
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every phrase that speaks of hate. is not gods word. Hate is a human emotion. God feels no hate. humans only project hate upon god.
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You damn the gays. you damn the heathens. you damn every one who does not conform to your ways of belifes. you dont try to understand them you dont try to love them.
Again, you're confused. I don't damn anyone. To "damn" someone is to send them to Hell. I cannot do that. None of us here can. People do that to themselves. So long as one refuses to acknowledge the Christ Jesus as Savior, they have already condemned themselves to an eternity of Hell (John 3:18), as is totally justified and right according to God who knows best (Isaiah 55:8-9).



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the "love" you speak of is not love. But pitty, you look down with them with disgust, wishing they would go towards your path.
Well, the gay thing isn't my cuppa, but they do, however, really upset God, the King of Kings. As sons and daughters of the King (2 Corinthians 6:18), we are in a unique position of sharing the good news that a faggot doesn't need to be a faggot if they want to avoid an eternity of horrifying punishment. They can accept the gift of Salvation made by the temporary sacrifice of Jesus, be made into a New Creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), one that isn't degenerate and disgusting unto the LORD (Leviticus 18:22).

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Again, you're confused. I don't damn anyone. To "damn" someone is to send them to Hell. I cannot do that. None of us here can. People do that to themselves. So long as one refuses to acknowledge the Christ Jesus as Savior, they have already condemned themselves to an eternity of Hell (John 3:18), as is totally justified and right according to God who knows best (Isaiah 55:8-9).





Well, the gay thing isn't my cuppa, but they do, however, really upset God, the King of Kings. As sons and daughters of the King (2 Corinthians 6:18), we are in a unique position of sharing the good news that a faggot doesn't need to be a faggot if they want to avoid an eternity of horrifying punishment. They can accept the gift of Salvation made by the temporary sacrifice of Jesus, be made into a New Creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), one that isn't degenerate and disgusting unto the LORD (Leviticus 18:22).

There is nothing to have pure love for another of the same sex. human is human. We are all the same my dear... we are all equal, man and woman. We are thus allowed to love each other the same.
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Nobody here is damning anyone . That's God's job:

John 3:16-18 "16 For God so loved the world, that he agave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

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It's God's love (according to the Bible), the kind where He saves us from the sin He gave us by sacrificing Himself to Himself (and blames the Jews and women for it).

Who are you to say the Creator of the universe is wrong?
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I am an Atheist, and I cannot believe how stupid this whole forum is. And how stupid people are on it. I only have one thing to say:

It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).
I don't get your point. Decent Christians know to fear Jesus. He has killed the majority of people in the history of humanity, after all.

The people Jesus kills are for His purpose and what right do you have to gainsay The Lord?

Think of it this way: every American patriot knows that G.W. Bush killed over eight million towel heads in Iraq II and the Afghanistan war of Corporate Freedom® and I don't hear anyone complaining.

If blessed G.W. is sanctioned by Jesus to end the tyranny of socialism in the Far East how can you complain when a bunch of heathens get their just deserts in the desert?

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There is nothing to have pure love for another of the same sex. human is human. We are all the same my dear... we are all equal, man and woman. We are thus allowed to love each other the same.
God is very clear regarding the abomination of choosing homosexuality:

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Thou shalt not lie with mankinde, as with womankinde: it is abomination.
Regarding the equality of the sexes, God has a clear hierarchy:

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But I would haue you knowe, that the head of euery man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God.
As you can see:

God the Father > God the Son > Men > Women

God commands women to be submissive to their husbands and to Him:

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Wiues, submit your selues vnto your own husbands, as vnto the Lord.
Now, regarding the equality of men. God intended for some to be rulers and for some to be servants:

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Obey them that haue the rule ouer you, and submit your selues: for they watch for your soules, as they that must giue account, that they may doe it with ioy, and not with griefe: for that is vnprofitable for you.
God naturally sees unbelievers as inferior to believers:

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Be ye not vnequally yoked together with vnbeleeuers: for what fellowship hath righteousnesse with vnrighteousnesse? and what communion hath light with darknesse?
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That's not an answer, dear.

My question is, according to whom is there nothing to have pure love for another of the same sex, that we are all the same, we are all equal, man and woman, and that we are thus allowed to love each other the same?
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Nobody here is damning anyone . That's God's job:

John 3:16-18 "16 For God so loved the world, that he agave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."



It's God's love (according to the Bible), the kind where He saves us from the sin He gave us by sacrificing Himself to Himself (and blames the Jews and women for it).

Who are you to say the Creator of the universe is wrong?
God isnt wrong... you are wrong for being against gods true love for all mankind.
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That's not an answer, dear.

My question is, according to whom is there nothing to have pure love for another of the same sex, that we are all the same, we are all equal, man and woman, and that we are thus allowed to love each other the same?
It is what i feel is right, What my soul tells me. If i'm wrong about that, then I'd rather die and spend an eternal life in hell. then live a life where no one is equal, and we aren't allowed to love every one equally.
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every phrase that speaks of hate. is not gods word. Hate is a human emotion. God feels no hate. humans only project hate upon god.
According to whom? Word of God says that He made human as His own image, so of course we have same feelings as He does. He says it Himself.

Proverbs 6:16-19 16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Deuteronomy 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the Lord thy God hateth.


It is obvious that God does hate. How about love or jealousy? These are emotions that God also has. Are you saying that humans cannot be then jealous or cannot love?


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God

It is now clear why Jesus send you to this forum today, friend. You really need learn the truth about the word of God as it's ovious that you have been lied to whole your life.

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