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I could talk on and on for days about why it is moral and good for our economy to be able to sell children, but I'll let the good lord do the speaking for me.

Leviticus 25:44-46
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44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour

This means that it is perfectly fine to trade children like donkeys. You're responsible if they commit crimes, and you're responsible for feeding them. Why wouldn't you be able to sell them?

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7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money
Not only is it okay to sell children, but there are implicit rules for doing so. For example, male servants can go outside while female servants can't. Additionally, male servants from your country are to only serve you for six years. This is to be expected since males are worth more than females. Six years of a male serving you is probably the equivalent to an entire lifetime of a female serving you.

Though God is looking out for female slaves too! For example, if the person who bought the slave is not satisfied, he is no allowed to sell her to foreigners. If the slave owner wants the slave to marry her son, she must be treated as a daughter, not a slave. On top of that, if he takes another wife, then he still has to feed her!

On top of all that, you're not allowed to kill your slaves Exodus 21:20-21 , and if you gouge out your slaves eyes or knock out their teeth you have to let them go Exodus 21:26-27! How gracious and loving is God? I'm almost tempted to want to become a slave now! I bet slaves back then were treated better than the working class is now under Obama.


And for liberals who think only the New Testament applies, owning other humans is endorsed there too! Ephesians 6:5 Luke 12:47-48 1 Timothy 6:1-2

The good lord also says children may be taken as plunder after war, like cattle! Deuteronomy 20:13-14

If you think taking children from someone else's home without their consent as a plunder of war is wrong, read Genesis 34:13-29

The wives don't say have say in the matter either Hosea 1:2


Consider what happens to children who don't properly obey their parents.

Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9, Deuteronomy 21:18-21

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Beating children and slaves is not only okay, it could save their lives!

Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13
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Nothing is wrong with dividing families. Leaving your children in the name of God is not only allowed, but it is encouraged, and you will be rewarded for doing so Mark 10:29-30, Luke 18:29-30

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And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake, 30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
So, remember children are yours, just like cattle! You're free to buy them, sell them, trade them, and beat them! Praise Jesus!
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Amen, Brother Prayer Warrior! It might be worth adding that children are responsible for supporting their parents as well. It’s only fair that parents get a return on their investment.

Mk 7:9-13
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


Here Jesus equates supporting ones parents with the fifth commandment. Refusing to support ones parents is tantamount to cursing them, for which the penalty is death. A lot of fluffy-bunny “Christians” think this doesn’t apply nowadays because our culture is different. But Jesus says we are not to let culture or tradition get in the way of observing the fifth commandment. Even though the state doesn’t sanction the death penalty for refusing to support ones parents, God promises long life to those who keep the fifth commandment (Ex 20:12). The implication: God will cut short the lives of those who break the fifth commandment.

1 Tim 5:4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

Requite means repay. Children owe their parents big time. Those who shirk their duty are putting their souls in danger.

1 Tim 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

And I think it is only fair to point out that some people do want to be slaves. God makes provisions for those who want to become slaves for life (Deut 15:12-17). All you have to do is serve your master faithfully for six years and then let him drive an awl through your ear.
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Beating children and slaves is not only okay, it could save their lives!
More evidence that the Good LORD thought of EVERYTHING!

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Poor children, they don't deserve that! Come on people, you're better than this, children must be in school, playing with another children or in home with their family, they deserve a good life, and being slaves is NOT a good life, what kind of parents will you be in the future?
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Poor children, they don't deserve that! Come on people, you're better than this, children must be in school, playing with another children or in home with their family, they deserve a good life, and being slaves is NOT a good life, what kind of parents will you be in the future?
People are born into wickedness Psalm 58:3 It is this sense of entitlement that is destroying America. Instead of saying "children deserve to play", why don't you ask what children have done to EARN their playtime?

Better yet, why don't you evaluate whether or not playing is really in their best interests? Instead of playing, they could be building a good work ethic, and helping our economy at the same time. In addition to that, God has put in many rules to ensure slaves are treated fairly, (eg. You can't gouge their eyes out, you can't kill them). I bet slaves are treated more fairly than Obama treats the working class.

Who are you to say what children deserve, or what is good for them? We just have to trust that God knows what's best. I'll trust that God is the measure all all things rather than putting my faith in human beings.
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Uh, what exactly do you mean "in the future"? I already have 5 Children, 3 boys and 2 others.

1st Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

As for the children, considering your love for pedophiles, I think my children would rather be beaten with a 2X4 than be left alone with you.
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People are born into wickedness Psalm 58:3 It is this sense of entitlement that is destroying America. Instead of saying "children deserve to play", why don't you ask what children have done to EARN their playtime?

Better yet, why don't you evaluate whether or not playing is really in their best interests? Instead of playing, they could be building a good work ethic, and helping our economy at the same time. In addition to that, God has put in many rules to ensure slaves are treated fairly, (eg. You can't gouge their eyes out, you can't kill them). I bet slaves are treated more fairly than Obama treats the working class.

Who are you to say what children deserve, or what is good for them? We just have to trust that God knows what's best. I'll trust that God is the measure all all things rather than putting my faith in human beings.
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Why would a Christian care what the UN has to say about anything? I don't usually open links by Unsaved Trash, and Wikipedia is nothing but liebral propaganda, but okay, I'll play along....

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As minors by law children do not have autonomy or the right to make decisions on their own for themselves in any known jurisdiction of the world.
So what exactly are you whining about?

Oh, and here we go. Hey, guess why children are children.... Because they're children! They don't have the mental capacity to take care of themselves!
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Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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Seriously? Hey, guess which children suffer from "child poverty" THE ONES WITH POOR PARENTS! Why do you liebrals go on and on about "child poverty" and somehow think that their parents are just hoarding the money away from them?

Matthew 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

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Unless a child is working they are not participating in society. Sitting around drinking red bull and playing video games is not "participating in society".

2 Kings 2:23-24 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them

Yeah, really sounds like God considers them "important members of society".

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The opposition to children's rights far outdates any current trend in society, with recorded statements against the rights of children dating to the 13th century and earlier.[28] Opponents to children's rights believe that young people need to be protected from the adultcentric world, including the decisions and responsibilities of that world.[29] In the dominate adult society, childhood is idealized as a time of innocence, a time free of responsibility and conflict, and a time dominated by play.[30] The majority of opposition stems from concerns related to national sovereignty, states' rights, the parent-child relationship.[31] Financial constraints and the "undercurrent of traditional values in opposition to children's rights" are cited, as well.[32] The concept of children's rights has received little attention in the United States.[33]
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Tell me something with a hand in the heart.....

Have you thought by yourself anytime instead of just repeat parts of the bible? I put that link because of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childre...ypes_of_rights

Fanatics like you are condemning this world. You were a child once and your parents give you love and respect, sorry if you don't think like that, but children are people too, even if you hate it
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Is this some kind of United Nations / New World Order edict or something?

Look, just because you read something, it doesn't make it true or good.

Even when we're talking about children safety?

And by the way, you read the bible and just because you read something in it you think is ok and repeat it, is exactly the same, that's even in the top comment here, how hypocrit
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Even when we're talking about children safety?
Yes, especially when we're talking about children's safety! What is more safe for a child, to have food and water and shelter for a day, or to have eternal security for ever and ever? A day, a year, 40 years is a drop in the bucket compared to eternity. ETERNITY! If you believe in God, if you believe in Jesus, surely you know that one day is but nothing in comparison to an eternity for a soul. This United Nations so-called "rights" is not about children's safety, it's about teaching children to reject Christ's Saving Gift. Why would you want to support that?

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But it's not the same, dear. The Holy Bible is the Word of God. This so-called child's rights thing is not. It was written by man, and man is sinful. He can never meet God's standards of Moral Excellence.

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Even when we're talking about children safety?
Especially when we're talking about children's safety! Why is it that people would invoke God for trivial things, but then when it comes to important things, such as our children, we would rely on fallible human beings?

I want the highest standard of safety and well being for our children, and it doesn't get any higher than God.
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Tell me something with a hand in the heart.....

Have you thought by yourself anytime instead of just repeat parts of the bible? I put that link because of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childre...ypes_of_rights

Fanatics like you are condemning this world. You were a child once and your parents give you love and respect, sorry if you don't think like that, but children are people too, even if you hate it
Would you quit posting that link. I've already answered you with whats wrong with it.

How exactly are we "condemning the world"? I was spanked as a child, my parents were spanked and my grandparents were spanked. My grandfather was actually beaten (legally) by his boss.

The worlds only been going to pot since all of this "don't spank the little darlings" garbage was started by Mr. Spock.
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Yes, especially when we're talking about children's safety! What is more safe for a child, to have food and water and shelter for a day, or to have eternal security for ever and ever? A day, a year, 40 years is a drop in the bucket compared to eternity. ETERNITY! If you believe in God, if you believe in Jesus, surely you know that one day is but nothing in comparison to an eternity for a soul. This United Nations so-called "rights" is not about children's safety, it's about teaching children to reject Christ's Saving Gift. Why would you want to support that?



But it's not the same, dear. The Holy Bible is the Word of God. This so-called child's rights thing is not. It was written by man, and man is sinful. He can never meet God's standards of Moral Excellence.

Sin, sin, sin, do you know another word? A child is a person like you and me, and if we want a future for our boys and girls we need to threat them like they deserve, and not in eternity but NOW, because the future starts now

I'm not going to slave or beat my future children just because a book tell me that, because the Bible is just that, a book. God is not between paper and ink, God is in us, in our hearts and in the air, he's with you, with me, with the people who suffers everyday, and I'm tired to see people who do horrible thinks just because they think God says is ok. God gives us inteligence, and if we don't valorate a so special gift then that is a real sin
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Uh, what exactly do you mean "in the future"? I already have 5 Children, 3 boys and 2 others.

1st Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

As for the children, considering your love for pedophiles, I think my children would rather be beaten with a 2X4 than be left alone with you.
"Others"? Gosh, I see you love your daughters. The word is girls

And I don't love pedophiles, because the man I love the most is Michael Jackson, who's not a pedo, unless Bible say other thing, because whatever is in that book must be truth for you ¬¬
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How do you think anyone knows about God except from reading His Word, the Holy Bible? Do you think a billion people made it all up spontaneously and without differences? That's silly! Why, if it weren't for the Holy Bible, do you really think you and I and countless others across this great earth would be worshiping the LORD? It is only through the Holy Bible, "between paper and ink," that we know the identity of our Creator! It is only through the Holy Bible that we know what our Creator wants! Why do you dismiss it so easily? What are you relying on otherwise to tell you right from wrong?
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How do you think anyone knows about God except from reading His Word, the Holy Bible? Do you think a billion people made it all up spontaneously and without differences? That's silly! Why, if it weren't for the Holy Bible, do you really think you and I and countless others across this great earth would be worshiping the LORD? It is only through the Holy Bible, "between paper and ink," that we know the identity of our Creator! It is only through the Holy Bible that we know what our Creator wants! Why do you dismiss it so easily? What are you relying on otherwise to tell you right from wrong?
Maybe bible is just a guide to have our own idea and relationship with God, we don't have to understand the book literally but the idea of it, and we must understand by ourselves what is wrong and what is right

You know, I see your "awards", and the one which said you "know your place" worry me, because bible says a lot of bad things about women which are not true. Is your moment to think by yourself and make another people, men included, to respect you, leave the bible by side and start using your own inteligence
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because bible says a lot of bad things about women which are not true.
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