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Old 02-16-2013, 08:29 PM
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Nothing makes a Christian parent's heart well up with pride like a favorite child affirming what we've raised them to say they want: To serve the LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Kids who are growing in CHRIST will naturally dedicate themselves more and more to His service everyday, and reading the Bible will fill their little heads with all kinds of exciting new ways to please GOD!

If your child is particularly fond of the Old Testament laws (what kid isn't?) then you may expect to hear him say that he'd like to kill some sinners.

Don't be alarmed! The desire to kill unbelievers and unrepentant sinners is a natural part of growing up True Christian, and it's a sure sign that your son is not a dainty homosexual.

So you've raised a bloodthirsty Christian child. What now?

As with everything GOD has created, there are rules for taking life. It is of the utmost importance that you explain to your child that the Bible says in 1 Peter 2:13 that we are to obey every ordinance of man, and killing anybody, even a witch, is against the law of the land.

You may also explain that the Bible says in Acts 5:29 that Peter insists we ought to obey GOD rather than man, and if your child is going to go out and kill somebody, that should be his defense in court.

Once your kid understands that we are to obey the law of the land except when we're not, he will know to listen exclusively to what JESUS tells him to do. If JESUS calls him to kill a homosexual and your son is ultimately executed for his so-called crime of following scripture to the letter, he will become a martyr for JESUS and be rewarded in Heaven. (Revelation 6:9-10)

Who Is Fair Game?

Witches (Exodus 22:18), People who work on Sabbath (Exodus 31:15), girls who aren't virgins when they get married (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), people who don't worship our GOD (2 Chronicles 15:13), gays (Leviticus 20:13), rape victims who do not scream loudly enough for help (Deuteronomy 22:24)...

Really, the list of people GOD has ordered exterminated is too exhaustive to be named in its entirety here. But, if you study the Bible with your children, I am sure they will be able to cite numerous unbelievers and sinners at their school who are worthy of extermination.

Should Your Child Kill The Wicked?

While their eagerness to please GOD is to be commended, your child should not go right out and kill sinners.

Your child should go out and witness to them for JESUS! It is much better that the unsaved trash have a chance to except JESUS as their savior than to simply be put out of their misery.

If the unsaved persist in their rejection of CHRIST's love and mercy, you should explain to your kids that JESUS has already promised to immolate these worthless sacks of garbage. (Matthew 13:41-42)

It might be better if they save the killing for JESUS.

Alternatives to Killing Sinners:

One fun way your child can glorify GOD and simultaneously send a message to all the world is to paste a picture of a local sinner onto a watermelon, and invite the neighborhood to start throwing rocks at the watermelon until it splits open and its red juices run out onto the pavement.

This is a satisfying way to take out GODly aggression against sinners, and it may actually inspire the sinner to repent before your child snaps and throws rocks at them for real.

Conclusion:

It is better to pray for change in government to legalize the execution of sinners, unless you are really, really sure that GOD wants to go kill somebody right now.
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All the boys in the Hutchins family cannot wait for God to call and take them to Heaven.
Once there, free of secular law, they will finally be able to perform Christian work using simple tools such as lightening, earthquakes, pestilence, flood, famine, disease and exposing basic human traits such as lust, envy and greed. From the safety of the Steps of Gods Throne, they can exercise His Love. They will see those deserving of a rapid decision in to Hell, fall screaming into the abyss and fiery brimstone pits of the underworld.
Bob, your thoughtful words give them hope.

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A great thread

Personally I like to take the boys out target shooting and let them shoot at paper "sinners". I am so glad that the Freehold range hasn't gone the way of other ranges and banned the use of the standard black outline target because it's "racist". Yeah, it couldn't possibly be because black and white is about as clear as you can get.
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I've notice Jr. Is very enthusiastic about killing the gay dogs from the animal shelter. He's even started keeping trophies to remember them by. He cuts off the nose of the lesbian dogs he kills and something else from the gay males ( could be an ear).

The wife doesn't like it but I think it's good practice for the end times.

One problem is it does smell a bit so I've made him keep his trophies I'm my wife's menses hut (that abandon car by the freeway)
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I've notice Jr. Is very enthusiastic about killing the gay dogs from the animal shelter. He's even started keeping trophies to remember them by. He cuts off the nose of the lesbian dogs he kills and something else from the gay males ( could be an ear).

The wife doesn't like it but I think it's good practice for the end times.

One problem is it does smell a bit so I've made him keep his trophies I'm my wife's menses hut (that abandon car by the freeway)
Well I think I know what he wants for his birthday....

http://www.rmi-online.com/beginnerki...FQhxQgodpC4AlQ

May as well start a trade as soon as possible!
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Well I think I know what he wants for his birthday....

http://www.rmi-online.com/beginnerki...FQhxQgodpC4AlQ

May as well start a trade as soon as possible!
Mr. Campbell,

I just had a look at that site and, quite frankly, I found it rather disturbing for the following reasons:

"Our video set includes:
  1. Mounting A Whitetail
  2. Mounting A Squirrel Running Down
  3. Mounting A Rainbow Trout
  4. Mounting A Standing Waterfowl
  5. Tanning With Mark Daniels and Mark Mclain"
Points 1 to 4 could possibly refer to that foul pagan PETA passtime of bestiality and point 5, well, that just doesn't bear thinking about.

I think this company should be investigated further.
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I'm sure this post is a completely JOKE, come on people! Just read that...

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Witches (Exodus 22:18), People who work on Sabbath (Exodus 31:15), girls who aren't virgins when they get married (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), people who don't worship our GOD (2 Chronicles 15:13), gays (Leviticus 20:13), rape victims who do not scream loudly enough for help (Deuteronomy 22:24)...
That's not God will, is a lame excuse for genocide! Any person who kills anybody using that as defence is simply insane, and by the way, I though murder was a sin, so you're killing "sinners" commiting a sin, do you understand how stupid is that?

We have no right to kill NOBODY, no matter what he or she had done, is still a sin and a crime. You really have no moral and no love for nobody but youselves and your stupid cult
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Mr. Campbell,

I just had a look at that site and, quite frankly, I found it rather disturbing for the following reasons:



"Our video set includes:
  1. Mounting A Whitetail
  2. Mounting A Squirrel Running Down
  3. Mounting A Rainbow Trout
  4. Mounting A Standing Waterfowl
  5. Tanning With Mark Daniels and Mark Mclain"
Points 1 to 4 could possibly refer to that foul pagan PETA passtime of bestiality and point 5, well, that just doesn't bear thinking about.

I think this company should be investigated further.
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That's not God will, is a lame excuse for genocide! Any person who kills anybody using that as defence is simply insane, and by the way, I though murder was a sin, so you're killing "sinners" commiting a sin, do you understand how stupid is that?
So you don't recognize the difference between murder and corporal/judicial/Godly punishment.

Did you learn anything in that public school other than "you're the most special little "it" (can't use sex based pronouns in the PC world) in the whole wide world"?

He backed it up with scripture. Anyway, we're not in a position to move yet. The way you talk, you'd think we're the only ones out there who take the Bible seriously. But there are more...... many many more....

From one of your sickular sites (since they're the only ones you believe)
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-army-and-call

I haven't looked into Joel's Army myself, but they are preparing young men to become Christian Warriors.

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Did you read it? Did you read the scripture that goes along with it?

And once again WE'RE NOT A CULT

Oh, and the list comes from FACTNET.org, an anti-cult group that knows a lot more about cults than you do.
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Care to tell us exactly where God says that in the Bible, liar?
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Care to tell us exactly where God says that in the Bible, liar?
Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

Besides, is the first of the Ten Commandments (You shall not murder), who's the liar now?
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Where are these haters getting their information from that God was wrong and has changed His mind?

Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
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Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

Besides, is the first of the Ten Commandments (You shall not murder), who's the liar now?
There's a difference between murder of innocent people and the righteous slaying of God's enemies. Read Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 22:18 ...did you even bother to read Bob4God's initial post, idiot? There are all kinds of filthy sinners God would just as soon see dead, so go brush up on your Bible study and quit embarrassing yourself here, you oaf.
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What I love about God is His certainty. If God says something is wrong or right then it is so, with no cause for dissent and no U turns later on. There's no pussy footing around like in human laws made up by people to suit their vested self interest at the time.

A great example would be the laws on slavery. Humans, at the moment, are going through one of their phases of thinking slavery is unjust and vile and wrong. This will last for a while until humans realise that without slavery we're never going to compete with the likes of China and India where they are happy eating maggots and rice and sending their children to work in factories. so eventually it will all be slavery by the back door because we wouldn't want to offend the great liberal sodomites we have running the show.

Meanwhile, with God, you don't have to sneak around employing wetbacks who are here illegally or crushing good honest white Americans into demeaning manual labour with wages barely sufficient to get them out of the trailer park and into real estate. We can see from this woeful set of affairs that slavery is right and God's will is working to show how decent folk cannot really afford to pay proper wages to paid workers. It's an artificial state of affairs worked by liberal do-gooders with no eye for the big picture that God has already painted for them.

With God's laws you can own slaves from the lesser races with your head held high and announce in a loud, clear voice, "I am setting my slaves to work in the fields today, Mr Jones. Please see to it that they all work hard and beat any who rebel against your orders. Though not so hard that they die immediately, ho ho!" with not a shred of social backlash. With God's laws it's so much more honest.
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Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.

Besides, is the first of the Ten Commandments (You shall not murder), who's the liar now?
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Witches (Exodus 22:18), People who work on Sabbath (Exodus 31:15), girls who aren't virgins when they get married (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), people who don't worship our GOD (2 Chronicles 15:13), gays (Leviticus 20:13), rape victims who do not scream loudly enough for help (Deuteronomy 22:24)...
Did you actually click those links?
(Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.)
(Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.)
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.)
(2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.)
(Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them)
(Deuteronomy 22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you)
So as you can see it's more than just God's will, it is His Direct Command. You continue:

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That's not God will, is a lame excuse for genocide! Any person who kills anybody using that as defence is simply insane, and by the way, I though murder was a sin, so you're killing "sinners" commiting a sin, do you understand how stupid is that?
As usual, despite these points having been covered before, it seems necessary to post the facts again. I addressed a similar display of ignorance from a homosexual last year and will repeat God's Clear Instruction here, from my earlier reply.




GENESIS 4:6-7 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
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The reason WHY murder is wrong is because it DISOBEYS God's commandment. When we GO AGAINST what God commands we are deserving of death. When Jesus was crucified God's Just Law didn't suddenly cease to be just. It didn't suddenly become okay to commit adultery. We remain obliged to FOLLOW what God commands and if we don't, THAT is SIN.

Christians love Jesus and follow His Commandments. He made the world and knows all about us. That is why He has commanded how we are to behave and taken together with all of the above, that is why disobeying His Commandments is sinful. God is always consistent on this point (and on all other points). It seems as though there is none of God's Just Law you'd not deny. Denial of God is demonic and it is real. It is God who determines what is murder and what is not. You deny that, using some blanket definition you've made up for yourself. Yes, murder is wrong BECAUSE it goes against God's command just as not killing is wrong when God has commanded that. His punishment is equally consistent.



LEVITICUS 18:22-24a Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things:
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19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
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DEUTERONOMY 5:17 Thou shalt not kill.
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Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
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JOHN 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
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What could be more obvious? God is always consistent and His Law is always Just. I have no idea where you get your information about God from but it is NOT from God. If it were you would not contradict what He has given us in The Bible. Perhaps you should read it?

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I don't care what a stupid book says anymore, now I see I was wrong using a part of the Bible to talk with you, you use the Bible even to contradict the own Bible

Listen, those "laws" are just a horrible and pathetic excuses to kill people, the only acceptable reason to kill another person is in self-defence and that's all. You're just like nazis, you kill anybody who's not like you, just like all those million of innocent jews who were murdered in those camps in WW2, you're not christians, and you're not loving God but Hitler

Tell me, what kind of God could like that its believers kill each others? Why God created all of them to just kill them at the first mistake? You're forgetting all the good things religion has and you twist everything to accord with your intolerance, hate, discrimination and prejudices
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Listen, those "laws" are just a horrible and pathetic excuses to kill people, the only acceptable reason to kill another person is in self-defence and that's all.
What a hurtful thing to say to us poor Christians!

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What a hurtful thing to say to us poor Christians!

When will the persecution end, LORD? When will it end?
I hope some day God answer you and tell you that you will be tolerated when you learn to tolerate another people, you'd kill and persecuted another people in History, so don't make you the victims
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I don't care what a stupid book says anymore, now I see I was wrong using a part of the Bible to talk with you, you use the Bible even to contradict the own Bible...
No, they're using the Bible to show you how you don't understand the Bible.

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What about in defence of others? Say I happen across a situation where someone is about to kill someone else (but doesn't mean me any harm). By your standard, I am not allowed to intervene to save the innocent life, because I personally am not threatened. Please explain how your view is anything but obscenely self-centered.

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Go look up "Godwin fail".

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Just about every god that man has invented since time began, that's what.

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...and you twist everything to accord with your intolerance, hate, discrimination and prejudices
They don't twist the words of the Bible, they read them as they are written; so their error is in NOT twisting everything to accord with YOUR intolerance, hate, discrimination and prejudices? That's what it's sounding like to me.
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Listen, those "laws" are just a horrible and pathetic excuses to kill people, the only acceptable reason to kill another person is in self-defence and that's all. You're just like nazis, you kill anybody who's not like you, just like all those million of innocent jews who were murdered in those camps in WW2, you're not christians, and you're not loving God but Hitler

Tell me, what kind of God could like that its believers kill each others? Why God created all of them to just kill them at the first mistake? You're forgetting all the good things religion has and you twist everything to accord with your intolerance, hate, discrimination and prejudices
Hitler was a Catholic friend, and Catholics are not Christians. As far as the so called Holocaust is concerned, those numbers have been exaggerated by the Jew run liberal media.
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