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Old 03-21-2014, 08:28 PM
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@ Two dollar bill , that was a question not a judgement , you speak and understand english so you should know that at the end of a sentence where question mark is placed it means the person is asking a question of the subject.

@James , god created everything right including the bible?
trees plants , the heavens the sun , the universe everything and you know that he created us also , so why then did God give us the ability to use logic and reason to postulate on our existance and give us the choice of free will , had he wanted us to be slaves to his will he wouldnt have made us with such a wonderful brain which gives us these fantastic abilities to question everything he has made for us even our origins and why we are here and given us the choice to choose what we want to believe , since it was his test of our faith and since god gifted me with this choice I can choose when I want to believe in God not you or anyone else and neither you or anyone else can judge me accept god.
and that is my understanding of the concept of god and not you or anyone else can change my opinion did the bible not teach you to respect other peoples beliefs ?
Or do you resent other people because they dont share the same belief as you when you try to give the word of god to them as a gift.
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...did the bible not teach you to respect other peoples beliefs ?...
Was that before or after all those tribes that didn't believe in Jealous were slaughtered (along with their women [except the rape-worthy ones], children, animals, even their crops and trees)?

I keep forgetting.
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As innocent as they have been you have already made attempts to mock me and my cultural heritage so forgive me if my response came across as "snide" but I was taught to think for myself and form my own opinions through the acquisition of knowledge, however I am glad I could have imparted some knowledge to yourself , as they say you learn something new every day.
Please point out any attempts that I made to mock you. I would certainly never falsely judge a fellow Christian in such a manner. If my ignorance of your country is seen as "mocking" then that is my fault, and the reason behind my inquiring about the possible cessation of Scotland from Great Britain (not England, my bad). I was also taught to think for myself, and I do, and I teach my three boys the same. But I also teach them manners and about how great Jesus is and how important it is to accept our Lord and let him guide us in our life. I'm sorry if we got off on the wrong foot, maybe we can start over. I'll ask a simple question about Scotland and see if you can answer it without judging me.

Mr. Adam please tell me more about the following as I am curious.

How many people speak Scottish (the Gaelic one, not the accent) and are steps being made to increase the number of speakers? How would this compare to other minority languages found in the British Isles?

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wait im confused the bible is gods word , so no room for interpretation at all right ?

so for example you cant read it and say "what I think god means is"

Since jesus is gods only son , does that also apply to Christs teachings that there is no room for interpretation and to be taken as written ?

because im reading one thing from the bible quotes and getting a different interpretation from the members here


Contrary to popular belief, Matthew 7:1-5 is not a prohibition against all judgment. These verses are a warning against hypocritical judgment, not judgment in itself. Jesus is saying we cannot judge others when we are guilty of the same sin. Let's look at the verses and I will guide you through them using my 45 years of pastoral experience and two doctorate degrees at the helm. 1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

then I was told you can judge if your are deemed righteous, who makes the decisions on your righteousness ?

Sorry all of your posts are helping me understand the very confusing world of religion and all these interpretations are confusing, I mean am I to listen to gods word and take my own meaning or am I to listen to your interpretations
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Agreed Bill,

So Gaelic unfortunately is a dying langauge , it is not taught in schools as it should be save for the schools in the outer islands of Scotland parts of Wales and Ireland mainly the outer Hebridies

In Scotland it is mainly in the highlands where it is spoken fluently but by a small population I think as little as around 7000 people speak it.

However should Scotland gain independence Im sure there will be a true cultural revival and it will be a mandatory langauge to be learned in school to preserve our national langauge.

Gaelic being our native langauge , however this eventually was replaced by English, yet Scots still maintained a cultural identity by speaking Auld scots , the best examples of this are Robert Burns poems , one you maybe familiar with is song worldwide on new year Auld lang Syne.

Im sorry to dissapoint you Bill but Im not a christian , I just wanted to come here to shed some light on Scotland , its really a lovely place with great history and a rich culture, you will be pleased to know it was a stronghold for christianity for hundreds of years during the dark ages.

if you have any further questions I'd be happy to share ,if you are willing to answer questions to help me understand the more diifficult parts of the bible and its literal meaning if you are well versed.

Thanks for your apology and I too apologise If I have in any way offended you.
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Agreed Bill,

So Gaelic unfortunately is a dying langauge , it is not taught in schools as it should be save for the schools in the outer islands of Scotland parts of Wales and Ireland mainly the outer Hebridies...
Thanks for your apology and I too apologise If I have in any way offended you.
You may not be a Christian, which makes me sad, but you are a nice person to spend the time answering my question.

Tapadh leat (I "googled" it, although it may be the wrong tense.)
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Was that before or after all those tribes that didn't believe in Jealous were slaughtered (along with their women [except the rape-worthy ones], children, animals, even their crops and trees)?

I keep forgetting.

Sorry Didymus so your saying you dont respect other peoples beliefs ?
and Im a lawful human being and I dont murder or rape regardless of who says its ok to do so I have morals rape and murder or harm upon anyone in anyway is wrong.

Seems as though from what you have posted is that God is quite ok with rape and murder as long as its done in his name and no other gods , yet Jesus is quite the opposite and against doing any harm to anyone ?

can you maybe explain this to me since arent they meant to be one and the same as of each other , God , the lord, and jesus christ.
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You may not be a Christian, which makes me sad, but you are a nice person to spend the time answering my question.

Tapadh leat (I "googled" it, although it may be the wrong tense.)

I may not be christian by definition but I certainly am a good person who believes we are all created equally and that we are all connected together and we should be lawful and moral

Im glad you took the time to find that , hey now learn to pronounce it !
I doubt you would get it over where you are but there is a Gaelic channel here in Scotland , and its interesting to listen to the langauge

and should you wish to , that very phrase is here for you to learn

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Sorry Didymus so your saying you dont respect other peoples beliefs ?...
If I was going to be a Christian, I wouldn't, because the Bible contains no such directions.

As I am not Christian, I am free to respect other's beliefs (but I usually don't anyways, because almost all religious thought is based on xenophobia, tribalism, and superstition).

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Nope.

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Anything in the Bible about not harming others is specifically about other Bible-believing Christians.

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Here's the verse you were thinking of:

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."
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...@James , god created everything right including the bible?
trees plants , the heavens the sun , the universe everything and you know that he created us also , so why then did God give us the ability to use logic and reason to postulate on our existance and give us the choice of free will , had he wanted us to be slaves to his will he wouldnt have made us with such a wonderful brain which gives us these fantastic abilities to question everything he has made for us even our origins and why we are here and given us the choice to choose what we want to believe , since it was his test of our faith and since god gifted me with this choice I can choose when I want to believe in God not you or anyone else and neither you or anyone else can judge me accept god.
and that is my understanding of the concept of god and not you or anyone else can change my opinion did the bible not teach you to respect other peoples beliefs ?
Or do you resent other people because they dont share the same belief as you when you try to give the word of god to them as a gift.
Now that is the BS a typical atheist says.

God does not force us to do anything. He wants us to prove our unerring commitment to Him. He gave us the gift of 'Free Will'. You are more than welcome to spread prostate for Satan, God is fine with that. Jesus may weep, but God wants you to give yourself freely to Him.
It is in the Bible. I'd give you the scripture but you made it abundantly clear, you hate His Word and refuse to look at it. I'm curious, does it make your eyes burn?
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Again im confused

quite the contradiction here


Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

and from James's signature

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

confusion abound

I told you I'd read the passge where it says God hates Scotland , reading doesnt burn my eyes , it must have burnt your eyes when you were reading about Scotland , oh right yeh you haven't read about Scotland you just base everything you know on racial stereotypes
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Again im confused

quite the contradiction here


Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

and from James's signature

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

confusion abound

I told you I'd read the passge where it says God hates Scotland , reading doesnt burn my eyes , it must have burnt your eyes when you were reading about Scotland , oh right yeh you haven't read about Scotland you just base everything you know on racial stereotypes
Friend, there is nothing confusing there. The scripture is perfectly clear.
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Psalm 119:152 Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

1st Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.
1st Peter 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
1st Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you
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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Bit daft this one

if humans no longer exist , who will be here to hear gods words or read them
kinda falling on non existant ears once humans cease to exist so does the concept of god
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Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Bit daft this one

if humans no longer exist , who will be here to hear gods words or read them
kinda falling on non existant ears once humans cease to exist so does the concept of god
God will hear the Words He speaks, just like He heard His own Words in the beginning (Genesis 1:1-3).

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@James , god created everything right including the bible?
trees plants , the heavens the sun , the universe everything and you know that he created us also , so why then did God give us the ability to use logic and reason to postulate on our existance and give us the choice of free will , had he wanted us to be slaves to his will he wouldnt have made us with such a wonderful brain which gives us these fantastic abilities to question everything he has made for us even our origins and why we are here and given us the choice to choose what we want to believe , since it was his test of our faith and since god gifted me with this choice I can choose when I want to believe in God not you or anyone else and neither you or anyone else can judge me accept god.
That is one long old run on. To answer that question, God creates everything for His own purpose. It is not up to us to question it, but to obsequiously obey every precious word.

Proverbs 16:4
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.


Romans 9:20-21 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

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Not even the slightest bit.

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6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
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@Mary ,

see talking to yourself is a sign of insanity !

@levi

Yeh god created us for his own reasons sure, but he gave us the powers f reason and logic , therefore if he didnt want us to question , we would be less intelligent versions of our species homo sapiens , something along the lines of cro magnum but wait we are that intelligent species a sapient species and we have those wonderful abilities to question everything including our own existance what a great god we have.

there in lies the problem , you dont respect other peoples beliefs like many on the earth respect yours , thats just ignorant

ignorant people are not nice people
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....ignorant people are not nice people
take from that what you will
We know, but we will talk to you anyway. We are used to rude people that lie and try to twist the Bible. God tells us the worst of the worst are those that are the most desperate and need our help the most.
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