[King of Babylon]

Re: Favorite Bible Verse

Ya, copied from wikipedia, everything in there is not false.

Ya, I Know that the Lucifer was an Angel, who just loved God to much that he can bow before people, like god told him so. Banned from heaven.

[True Disciple]

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Ya, I Know that the Lucifer was an Angel, who just loved God to much that he can bow before people, like god told him so

That is nonsense. Lucifer didn't love God, that's just an excuse made up by some moonworshiping muslims in an attempt to downplay his depravity.

[King of Babylon]

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That is nonsense. Lucifer didn't love God, that's just an excuse made up by some moonworshiping muslims in an attempt to downplay his depravity.

Isaiah 14:12

[True Disciple]

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Isaiah 14:12

...says only that Lucifer fell from Heaven. It didn't say that Lucifer loved God at any moment.

[King of Babylon]

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That is nonsense. Lucifer didn't love God, that's just an excuse made up by some moonworshiping muslims in an attempt to downplay his depravity.

Muslims said that...? Prove it?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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You didn't answer me 'bout Moses VI and VII...

Yes I did. They were likely written in the 18th or 19th century and passed off as genuine ancient books.

[King of Babylon]

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My Favourite:

2. Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.

Day Star/Morning Star (matter of translation) also known as Lucifer.

The Vulgate (Latin) version of the Christian Bible used the word "lucifer" (with lower-case initial) twice to refer to the Morning Star: once in 2 Peter 1:19 to translate the Greek word Φωσφόρος (phōsphoros), a word, from φῶς (phōs) meaning "light" and φέρω (pherō̄) meaning "to carry", that has the same meaning of Light-Bringer that the Latin word has, and once in Isaiah 14:12 to translate the Hebrew word הילל (Hêlēl).[20] In the latter passage the title of "Morning Star" is given to the tyrannous Babylonian king, who the prophet says is destined to fall. This passage was later applied to the prince of the demons, and so the name "Lucifer" came to be used outside the Bible for the devil, and was popularized in works such as Dante Alighieri's Inferno and John Milton's Paradise Lost, but for English speakers the greatest influence has been its use in the King James Version of Isa 14:12 to translate the Hebrew word הילל, which more modern English versions render as "Morning Star" or "Day Star". A similar passage in Ezekiel 28:11–19 regarding the "king of Tyre" was also applied to the devil, contributing to the traditional picture of the fallen angel.

Infraction about Wikipedia text? ok, Do you infract others by postin some otherpedia links and things...?

[Alphonse Alban]

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Prove it?

What do you actually hope to gain here?

First you plagiarize some random stuff from Wikipedia. Then you try to prove Lucifer’s love with scripture part that says nothing about love. This is second time today when you mess up with love. Pun intended.

At least learn about the stuff before you come ranting about it. This is just embarrassing to watch.

Are you trying to make atheists look stupid?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Favorite Bible Verse

Infraction about Wikipedia text? ok, Do you infract others by postin some otherpedia links and things...?

I don't mind if you copy paste as long as you cite your source.

[King of Babylon]

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I said nothing 'bout loving lucifer, exept reason for falling, you tried to deny that with nothing but your own word on some muslin mumbo jumbo with nothing to do with reality.

[True Disciple]

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Muslims said that...? Prove it?

Of course:

The Demonic Quran, 18:50:
And (remember) when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, and they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord's command. Will ye choose him and his seed for your protecting friends instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you? Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers.

The Demonic Quran, 15:25-37:
Lo! thy Lord will gather them together. Lo! He is Wise, Aware.
(25) Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered, (26) And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire. (27) [And (remember) when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am creating a mortal out of potter's clay of black mud altered, (28) So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him. (29) So the angels fell prostrate, all of them together (30) Save Iblis. He refused to be among the prostrate. (31) He said: O Iblis! What aileth thee that thou art not among the prostrate? (32) He said: I am not going to prostrate myself unto a mortal whom Thou hast created out of potter's clay of black mud altered! (33)He said: Then go thou forth from hence, for verily thou art outcast. (34) And lo! the curse shall be upon thee till the Day of Judgment. (35) He said: My Lord! Reprieve me till the day when they are raised. (36) He said: Then lo! thou art of those reprieved (37)

The Demonic Quran, 38:73-76::
The angels fell down prostrate, every one, (73) Saving Iblis; he was scornful and became one of the disbelievers. (74) He said: O Iblis! What hindereth thee from falling prostrate before that which I have created with both My hands? Art thou too proud or art thou of the high exalted? (75) He said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire, whilst him Thou didst create of clay. (76)

Sufi muslims interpret this act of "Iblis," the muslim version of Satan, as an act of love. That's where the legend comes from. Read "Kitab al Tawasin" from Mansur Al-Hallaj if you don't believe me.

[King of Babylon]

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I don't mind if you copy paste as long as you cite your source.

Sorry 'bout forgettin that... I got nothing to hide, and do not have to cover my C/P:s

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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Sorry 'bout forgettin that... I got nothing to hide, and do not have to cover my C/P:s

Consider it a warning. I will reverse the infraction.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Favorite Bible Verse

Let's see.

Lucifer was an Angel, who just loved God to much

Ok. Here you say Lusifer loved God too much. Then you back it up with this Isaiah 14:12 scripture part that says absolutely nothing about Lucifer loving God too much.

Then you try to prove Lucifer’s love with scripture part that says nothing about love

See, this was my comment. On that you reply with;

I said nothing 'bout loving lucifer, exept reason for falling

What?

I'll have to give it to you, you are very convincing on making atheists look stupid.

[King of Babylon]

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Sorry, a bit hard to make sense when any of you do that neither...

Tell me then, why Lucifer were banned?