[DopplePinning]

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Well, there ain’t no secret about what good old Brother Jessup thinks about them blasphemous, heathen Catholics and their fearless leader in the Vatican:



Wake up people! The Protestant Reformation happened almost 500 years ago! Get with the program! Your beloved beanie wear’n Pope is obsolete; he’s nothing but an old man in a dress and funny hat who’s been given a cushy job because he’s too darn old to molest little boys.


The Honorable Brother Jessup T. Lloyd has spoken……..…Amen!

.................Are you the right age to molest boys?

[DopplePinning]

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http://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-defended.htm

http://biblelight.net/sola1.htm

As for the church being the final authority. Well, first of that's not what Jesus is saying in that verse. Second, let me ask you something. Why is it that since Vatican II, you are now allowed to eat meat on Fridays but before it was considered a mortal sin? Was the church wrong before? Is the church wrong now? Is the Laws of God as expressed through the church changeable with the times? If the Pope declared that divorce and abortion and adultery were okay, would God be "Bound" to "bind in heaven" what was "bound" on earth?

Why has it taken so long for all the practices of the modern church to come into place if Jesus' founded Catholicism? Or did the 12 Apostles dress up in fancy robes and say the exact same thing for one hour every Sunday in a building full of statues and paintings while the people got a good aerobics work out of sitting, standing, and kneeling before a piece of bread, all in Latin (oh right, why is it that you don't have to say it in Latin anymore???)

As God has never written anything, who's authority are YOU following.

There's a lot of sheep around this site, both in their following and in their brain power.

[DopplePinning]

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If the pope of Rome has so much faith in God, why does he run around in a bulletproof outhouse like that ridiculous "popemobile?" You don't see me or the other True Christian™ Pastors doing that!

Of course, we pack heat...

You'ld also be a waste of the cost of a bullet.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Your beloved beanie wear’n Pope is obsolete;

Obsolete? That implies that there was once a time when the Vicar of Rome was relevant.

We're Baptists, not Protestants. Baptists are the original Christians.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4933

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[BoxCat]

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Bullocks! You're right! I never really knew until now. Thank you pastor!

[Johnnyboy]

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Bullocks! You're right! I never really knew until now. Thank you pastor!

Who are you? Why are you here? What church do you attend? Do you read the King James Bible version 1611? Most new folks introduce themselves before jumping headfirst into a thread.

Thanks,

[Celtic_Warrior]

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I had found this website while searching for something else. What I have read on this thread alone makes my head swim. The emense amount of hate is staggering. Some of you try to mask it as truth. Jesus practiced Love and kindness. He excepted people where they were and showed them by HIS actions the WAY. Religion will condem a man, faith will set him free.

I seem to recall Jesus saying Love one another as I have loved you. Now if you belive calling every priest a dirty child molester something Jesus would do, then I guess we have no room for intelectual debat.

I belive that if you say you're a Christian then you belive in Jesus and belive in his word. You treat ALL of gods children with love and respect, not just the ones who you belive are like you. You act more like the Phrases then Christians. Condeming anyone who isnt exactly like you. I wonder how you would treat Jesus if you met him now. A man who, in this day, treated everyone with love, who helped the poor, ate with sinners, straight and gay.

Jesus is love, not hate, and as "Christians" you should be Humble, loving and caring as was Jesus. It is not your right to Judge others, that is for Him. Judge the sin, not the sinner.

I am a follower of Jesus. I truely belive that if you follow his words Love one another as I have loved you, this world would be a far beter place. That being said I am not nieve enough to think that will hapen.

Religion tears men apart, faith brings them together

Its very sad that so many of you here have so much hate in your hearts for so many of your brothers and sisters.

[steffaNismo]

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^^ that is probably the only good post I have seen on this forum.

[Meek and Humble]

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I had found this website while searching for something else. What I have read on this thread alone makes my head swim. The emense amount of hate is staggering. Some of you try to mask it as truth. Jesus practiced Love and kindness. He excepted people where they were and showed them by HIS actions the WAY. Religion will condem a man, faith will set him free.

So you think the Catholics rely less on religion than faith? The whole precept of the Catholic church is that faith alone CANNOT save you. You need to have faith, but you also have to baptized and eat special bread and pray to Jesus' mother and give the Pope money. Learn some history. Protestantism was founded by men who were brave enough to tell the truth about the evils of Catholicism and point out what the Bible really says.

I seem to recall Jesus saying Love one another as I have loved you. Now if you belive calling every priest a dirty child molester something Jesus would do, then I guess we have no room for intelectual debat.

Yes, we clearly have no room for "intelectual debat".

I belive that if you say you're a Christian then you belive in Jesus and belive in his word. You treat ALL of gods children with love and respect, not just the ones who you belive are like you. You act more like the Phrases then Christians. Condeming anyone who isnt exactly like you. I wonder how you would treat Jesus if you met him now. A man who, in this day, treated everyone with love, who helped the poor, ate with sinners, straight and gay.

Frankly, I don't care what you, er, "belive". I care what the Bible says. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to treat everyone like you. In fact, the Bible is adamant from beginning to end to have nothing to do with those who disobey the Word of God. Catholics are the ones who are like Pharisees. Pharisees added and added onto the simple rules of the Scriptures and got all in a huff when anyone dared point out what was wrong with them. Here's how the Bible tells us to treat unbelievers:

2 John 1: 6And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Yes, Jesus said "love one another." But "one another" was an exclusive group. True Christians.

Jesus is love, not hate, and as "Christians" you should be Humble, loving and caring as was Jesus. It is not your right to Judge others, that is for Him. Judge the sin, not the sinner.

Did you know "judge the sin, not the sinner" is not in the Bible?

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=5610#Judge

If you think Christians should not judge others, then this section is for you.

If you think the Bible forbids judging others, then you haven't read it. The Bible forbids superficial judgment based on appearances and it forbids hypocrisy, but it does not forbid judgment. On the contrary, the saved are commanded to pass judgment on others.

Lev 19:15 In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Jn 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

I Cor 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

I Cor 5:12-13 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

I Cor 6:2-3 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Liberal Christians frequently take Matthew 7:1 out of context by claiming that it is prohibition against judging others. The full context is Matthew 7:1-5, and it is a prohibition against hypocrisy.

Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

My job as a Pastor is to find folks who are lost and to try to get them saved. That job would be made a lot harder if I were unable to judge who is lost and in need of salvation.

I am a follower of Jesus. I truely belive that if you follow his words Love one another as I have loved you, this world would be a far beter place. That being said I am not nieve enough to think that will hapen.

So you don't believe Jesus is going to return to set up His Heavenly Kingdom here on Earth?

Religion tears men apart, faith brings them together

Says the person defending the institution that denies faith as the only means of salvation.

Its very sad that so many of you here have so much hate in your hearts for so many of your brothers and sisters.

Perhaps you know this verse from Leviticus? 19: 18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.



But do you know the verse directly before it?


17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.



Written plainly in the Word of God. To love your neighbor means to judge them and rebuke them, and tell them everything they are doing wrong. If you don't do this, you hate your neighbor. The reason is because if you let people go on sinning you are letting them go to hell!


I'll pray for you.

[Celtic_Warrior]

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Where in what I wrote did you find that I said I was Catholic, I am not.

"So you think the Catholics rely less on religion than faith? The whole precept of the Catholic church is that faith alone CANNOT save you. You need to have faith, but you also have to baptized and eat special bread and pray to Jesus' mother and give the Pope money. Learn some history. Protestantism was founded by men who were brave enough to tell the truth about the evils of Catholicism and point out what the Bible really says."

You dont have to agree with a religion, but to make sport of it shows a lack of respect that isnt called for. Catholics belive what they belive, just as you do. The use of the term "Special bread" shows a contempt which shocks me comming from a "pastor" I feel the need to correct you on the "praying to Jesus' mother" Catholics dont do that either. Any who say the do are a bit misinformed. They are asking Mary to interceed on their behalf to her son Jesus. Once again you dont need to belive what they do to show respect for their faith in Jesus.



"Says the person defending the institution that denies faith as the only means of salvation"

Once again I am not defending the Catholic church. That statement applies for all religions, including yours my friend.

I belive faith with out works is dead. You can claim to belive all you want but without actions it means nothing.


"Did you know "judge the sin, not the sinner" is not in the Bible? It was a phrase invented by a Godless heathen Indian by the Mahatma Ghandi, who has be writhing in the fiery pits of hell for 60+ years now."

Its sad that you take great joy that any child of god is "writhing in the fiery pits of hell" The statement "Godless heathen Indian" is full of hate. How can you hope to change the hearts of men with hate? Let me ask you a question, Would you deny peace to the world if a non christian were to bring it about?


"So you don't believe Jesus is going to return to set up His Heavenly Kingdom here on Earth?"

I belive, saddly, that the only way there will be peace on earth is for Jesus to come again. It is in part because of people like yourself that we have such a divide between followers of Jesus. You should embrace your Love of Him, not squable over the differences.


"Yes, Jesus said "love one another." But "one another" was an exclusive group. True Christians."

I disagree. Jesus loved everyone. He died for everyone. If the definition of a christian is one who is like Christ, then should you not love all people as did Christ. You dont have to agree with hopw someone lives their life, you can even tell them you disagree, but if you claim to follow Jesus shouldnt you be doing it with the love and joy that comes from knowing and loving him? Not from a place of self rightousness, anger, and hate.

"If you think Christians should not judge others, then this section is for you."

I dont think christians should condem others. Lead by example, live your faith, everyone should be able to see Christ in you. That should be your goal.

"Written plainly in the Word of God. To love your neighbor means to judge them and rebuke them, and tell them everything they are doing wrong. If you don't do this, you hate your neighbor. The reason is because if you let people go on sinning you are letting them go to hell!"

If thats the way you see it, thats the way you see it. Its your calling and your duty then to do that. If you care for your neighbor as you say then why would you not speak to them with love in your heart? Why would you rebuke them with happiness in your heart. You should be humble and carring. Showing them the way not beating them with the Word.
"

Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

My job as a Pastor is to find folks who are lost and to try to get them saved. That job would be made a lot harder if I were unable to judge who is lost and in need of salvation. "

Taking from what you have said so far, anyone who is not of your exact thinking is in need of salvation. That making it very easy and with no amount of judging needed. As you have so thoughtfully quoted Mathew 7 1-5 Allow me to urge you to take a good hard look at it. It would seem alot of the people on here could due with rereading that. Perhaps a beter way to look at it is, Who among you is without sin. None of us are. None of us are perfect, and if you think yourself so you are in more need of salvation then those you seek to save.


We all have free will, that was the way it was meant to be. You should respect that. You can lead people to heaven by your actions, you cant drag them their agaisnt there will. Jesus loves all of his children equally, those that you call saved and those that you say will burn in hell. In the end its not up to you or I who is allowed into heaven or sent to hell.

[Wide-Open]

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Who among you is without sin.

I am.

Every other True Christian is.

Don't get me wrong, some of us were sinners in many, many ways. The stories we could tell...

But, as soon as you are Saved, you can no longer sin. And if we would sin, we were never Saved in the first place.

[Celtic_Warrior]

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I am.

Every other True Christian is.

Don't get me wrong, some of us were sinners in many, many ways. The stories we could tell...

But, as soon as you are Saved, you can no longer sin. And if we would sin, we were never Saved in the first place.

I have to disagree. The idea that once you are saved you cant sin is rediculous. That would mean that your free will would be gone, and to say that if one were to sin, that they were never saved to begin with is laughable. Thats a loop hole to save a false arguement. To walk on the path takes a concious choice. Someone isnt "saved" then losses the ability to ever sin again. We chose to sin or not to sin, just as we chose to be saved or not to be saved.

That is my point, you were a "sinner" , you HAVE sined therefor you are not perfect. Jesus is, he alone, will judge.

[Migueldadon]

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Im catholic, so wtf, lol, lmfao.

[Wide-Open]

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That is my point, you were a "sinner" , you HAVE sined therefor you are not perfect. Jesus is, he alone, will judge.

Friend, have you ever cracked open a Bible before you called me a sinner?

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

You can disagree until the proverbial cows come home, but you can not argue against God.

[JennyD]

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Friend, have you ever cracked open a Bible before you called me a sinner?

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

You can disagree until the proverbial cows come home, but you can not argue against God.

Brother, you know that the Word of God is not to be found in some musty old Bible! God's Word is in the hearts and minds of everyone who seeks Him! It's written on the face of every child, on the petals of every delicate flower, and in the eyes of every <snort> innocent puppy and bunny <giggle> rabbit!




Oh, I can't do it! It's too ridiculous! I tried to imitate one of them, but this parody business is just too hard for me, I'm sorry!

How can these people take themselves so seriously? They claim that God's Word is in their imaginations, and ignore the Book HE GAVE US to TELL US what He thinks!!

Well, I suppose it's not really THAT funny when we consider they'll go to Hell for their error.

Nope, not funny.



Not at all.