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  • Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

    As the pastor responsible for diversity and tolerance, I have become acutely aware of the increasing demonization of Moslems and thus it falls to me to say that although Mohammed was no more a prophet that the pope is, and although the Moslem view of Christ as merely another prophet is abhorrent and blasphemous, nevertheless there is common ground in the confused superstitions of the ill-educated sons of the desert and right-thinking Christian belief.

    Not only that, but, from time to time, among the unreadable walls of text of the Koran, there is a glint of gold – an idea that, while it cannot be essential to Christian Faith, nevertheless enlightens the world in a very special way:

    A question that the more intelligent Christians ask is “If men came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” As yet, science so-called has avoided all answers to this – the atheist returns to name-calling, murder and drug-fuelled orgies, and Catholics have some far-fetched idea that nobody but a few Jesuits think they understand.

    The True Christian knows the answer is that “God created each beast after its kind.” (Gen:1:25) And that would appear to be that – case closed.

    However, we cannot ignore the doctrine of change in animals within a species for we see dogs and cats produce offspring not much like either parent.

    Naturally, a lot of this is down to what the mother saw during her pregnancy

    Ge:30:37: And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
    Ge:30:38: And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
    Ge:30:39: And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

    which answers the question “Where did the True Christian, Sharon Kinsman’s, black baby come from?” – Answer: “She was frightened by a nigra when she was 5 months gone.

    And yet, we might question this explanation which sounds deceptive and much like complicated science. The explanation does not mention God – so how can it be an explanation? – for all things are “of God”.

    I apologize that it has taken a long time to get here, but Islam does have an answer to the persistence of monkeys, and does explain why there are both men and monkeys – and most importantly – the explanation is true, because it involves God:

    In the hopes that you might find some glimmer of hope for Salvation in the Islamist, I give you, in a spirit of diversity and tolerance, this gem from Islam:

    Muhammad recounts a legend—not found in the Talmudists—about Jews fishing or working on the Sabbath in a town that tradition says was located on the Red Sea (vv. 163-167). God made fish appear on the surface only on the Sabbath, never on weekdays. This tempted some Jewish fishermen to break their holy day of rest, ignoring their teachers’ warnings. The Sabbath-breakers become so arrogant and deep in their violations that God says to them in the royal "We":
    Sura 7:166 But when even after this they disdainfully persisted in that from which they were forbidden, We said to them, "Become apes—despised and disgraced!" (Maududi)

    Sura 7:163-166, says that if the People of the Book (Jews and Christians, but he deals mostly with Jews in Medina) believe in Allah, the Day of Judgement, and do good, they will not suffer at judgement. However, Muhammad quotes God and issues a warning against Sabbath-breakers:
    2:65 And you know well the story of those among you who broke Sabbath. We said to them: "Be apes—despised and hated by all." 66 Thus We made their end a warning to the people of their time and succeeding generation, and an admonition for God-fearing people. (Maududi)

    And
    “The Jews are the objects of Allah’s [promised] wrath, while the Christians deviate from the path of righteousness. . . . The Qur’an described the Jews as a nation cursed by Allah, a nation at which he was angry — some of whom he turned into apes and pigs. . . .“ (Qari, undated)


    And we have

    Al-Tirmidhi (2152) narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: “I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, ‘Among this ummah those who disbelieve in the divine decree (al-qadr) will be swallowed up by the earth, transformed into monkeys and pigs or pelted with stones.” (Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 1748).
    And al-Tirmidhi (2212) narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among this ummah, people will be transformed into monkeys and pigs, swallowed up in the earth, and pelted with stones.” A man among the Muslims said, “O Messenger of Allaah, when will that be?” He said, “When singing-girls and musical instruments become widespread and wine is drunk.” (Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 1802). https://islamqa.info/en/14085

    And of course, despite the best efforts of Landover and the Islamic World, singing-girls and musical instruments have become widespread and wine is drunk!

    Many monkeys are therefore Jews who have displeased God and whom, therefore God has seen fit to turn into apes. I urge you to look at a rabbi and a monkey – the resemblances are remarkable.

    Jews keep displeasing God, and so there will always be monkeys.

    It is worth noting that recently, in Turkey, a Moslem state, a children’s text book has been produced that adequately deals with Darwin’s delusions:
    The book on Darwin says the proponent of natural selection “had two problems: first he was a Jew; second, he hated his prominent forehead, big nose and misshapen teeth.” It adds that he threw nuts to monkeys at the zoo rather than go to school.
    It is truly sad that people still hold with “evolution” and also sad that the Islamists seem unapproachable on the question of banding together with us to eradicate this ignorance.

    I hope this sermon helps build bridges and reduce hatred in the world.
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    “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

    Author of such illuminating essays as,
    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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    Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

    Pastor, your love for everyone of God's creations is really admirable.

    I believe I have seen Jews mutating into monkeys near my house. Now I know why.


    Praise the Lord!
    1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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    • #3
      Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

      Originally posted by Brother Gonzalez View Post
      I believe I have seen Jews mutating into monkeys near my house. Now I know why.
      Most interesting! I had imagined the process to be miraculously instant but to see the change happening must mean that you are, in some way, blessed and able to witness the detailed Work of God. I am envious (in a Godly way, of course.)
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      “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

      Author of such illuminating essays as,
      Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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        Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

        Originally posted by Brother Gonzalez View Post
        I believe I have seen Jews mutating into monkeys near my house. Now I know why.
        That must have been terrifying, Brother Gonzalez! Thank you for the warning. There are (thankfully) very few Jews in my immediate area, and no monkeys at all, or at least none that I have seen. Do they mutate from the head down, or from the feet up? Like this ...



        Brother Bathfire, is the thinking then that Darwin invented natural selection and evolution to conceal the fact that some (but not all) monkeys are ex-Jews? (When I say ex-Jews here, I don't mean ex-Jews in the sense of people who decided not to be Jews any more and, for example, became Christians. What I mean is monkeys that used to be Jews. Forgive me - it is difficult to explain.) You can see why he (i.e. Darwin) would have done that.

        YiC
        Joanna
        Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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        • #5
          Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

          Great post! But would you mind telling me what exactly is wrong with Jews? If anything their religion is more similar to Christianity than Islam is.

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            Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

            There are considerable numbers of Jews in my general vicinity. However, there are no feral monkeys. If the Jews are turning into monkeys in my area, they are either quickly caught and placed into zoos and medical research facilities, they immediately leave the area and go to Louisiana or some similar place, or they are skilled at concealment.


            It may be that the Jews are being turned to Negroes. There is some evidence that this could be the case. Negroes are often referred to as apes and monkeys. I have always assumed that these were derogatory terms directed at Negroes, due to their obvious close resemblance to monkeys, but perhaps there is more to the story.


            While it would seem on the surface that Jews and Negroes are quite different in every way, there are striking similarities that cannot be ignored. While the Jews have developed sophisticated schemes to get White people to give them their money, the Negroes only seem to steal the money. However, it is clear that both groups spend considerable time scheming how to get the money of honest White people. Jews are lawyers, pawn shop owners, used furniture dealers and the like. Negroes are drug salesmen, burglars and rapists. The connection I see here is that neither group has normal, honest jobs. Also, they are all members of the same political party. Why would two seemingly disparate groups be so aligned politically? The Democrat party is primarily a Negroe organization, but there are a few White people involved. For some reason, almost all White Democrats are Jews (Jews are technically White).


            These facts do not constitute a proven connection to the monkey/Jew theory, but it is certainly food for thought.
            God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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              Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

              Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
              Great post! But would you mind telling me what exactly is wrong with Jews? If anything their religion is more similar to Christianity than Islam is.
              What does make you say that? Muslims believe Jesus to be a prophet, which is obviously wrong, but at least they recognize Him as someone important, while Jews deny Jesus altogether. And, they killed Him.
              God created fossils to test our faith.

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                Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
                Great post! But would you mind telling me what exactly is wrong with Jews? If anything their religion is more similar to Christianity than Islam is.
                Well, apart from the excellent answers that have already been given, there is nothing "technically" physically wrong with Jews - after all we can't all be good -looking Caucasians, can we? . God made us all, Jews included, through Noah's sons and that is that.

                If God made them, they are "OK" because they have a soul. But it is the health of the Jew's soul that worries normal people - A Jew needs "perfecting" - bringing to Jesus and that involves stamping out horrible superstition, terrible practices, lust for money, and poisoning wells.
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                “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                Author of such illuminating essays as,
                Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                  Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                  Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
                  Great post! But would you mind telling me what exactly is wrong with Jews? If anything their religion is more similar to Christianity than Islam is.

                  Jacob, I note that you have ignored the requirement that you properly introduce yourself, but you feel entitled to barge right into Christian discussions anyway. I believe that you are likely a Jew, due to your casually disruptive attitude and your name, which seems to be a Jew name. Perhaps you could provide useful information in spite of your Jewishness. Have any of your immediate family turned into monkeys, pigs or Negroes?
                  God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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                  • #10
                    Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                    Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
                    Great post! But would you mind telling me what exactly is wrong with Jews? If anything their religion is more similar to Christianity than Islam is.
                    They killed Jesus?

                    What kind of a question is that for a Christian website. And they have ruined boxing, Hollywood, free press and they probably cause wars.

                    YIC
                    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                    Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                      Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post
                      They killed Jesus?

                      What kind of a question is that for a Christian website. And they have ruined boxing, Hollywood, free press and they probably cause wars.

                      YIC

                      Also, bagels. Tasty but problematic.


                      Glutenly Yours,
                      Handmaiden
                      His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                        Originally posted by Alvin Moss View Post
                        Jacob, I note that you have ignored the requirement that you properly introduce yourself, but you feel entitled to barge right into Christian discussions anyway. I believe that you are likely a Jew, due to your casually disruptive attitude and your name, which seems to be a Jew name. Perhaps you could provide useful information in spite of your Jewishness. Have any of your immediate family turned into monkeys, pigs or Negroes?
                        I'm sorry you feel this way.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                          Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
                          I'm sorry you feel this way.

                          What way might that be? Is this your idea of cleverly avoiding answering a simple question? If so, it is a complete failure. Now, kindly answer the question.
                          God judgeth the righteous, And God is angry with the wicked every day- Psalm 7:11

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                          • #14
                            Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                            Originally posted by Alvin Moss View Post
                            Now, kindly answer the question.
                            Well, no. My family is just fine. I was only asking a question to see what all the fuss was about.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Towards the Christian understanding of Islam.

                              Originally posted by Jacob Cushman View Post
                              I was only asking a question to see what all the fuss was about.
                              The fuss is that the very Saviour of Mankind was killed by those people!

                              It is only Jesus' omniscience that made His death necessary for Him to Save mankind (the one's who accept Him) from His judgement that Mankind is damned to Hell without His Sacrifice to Himself to bring His justice to us by His Sacrifice.

                              So what do you think about the joos now, eh?

                              YIC
                              1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                              Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                              Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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