[Des]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

BrakBrakBrakBrakBrak Ol tli eromy, you'ri bhaztemg len for aqqiptemg ZQEIMTEFEQ PROOF om faetl. Wlmim, you, a qlrezteam, biheivi tliri ez a goj. Mow, tliri ez mo ivejimqi for Goj wleql niamz you aqqipt et om faetl. Ztop biemg a lypoqreti.
Ahzo, wly jom't you, emztiaj of poztemg om liri, wleql ez fuhh of lahf-wettij ejeotz, pozt et to a zqeimtefeq wibzeti to git piir riveiwij? E kmow wly, biqauzi you kmow you'hh git zqeimtefeqahhy zhaugltirij by ivim am umjirgrajuati nitiorohogezt.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

That is faith, and we all have it. I have faith in God while the God denying atheist has faith in science. Can you show us the communication stream between cellphones? Can you see radio waves? Can you tell us what color radiation is? No, you cannot, because while you silly atheists enjoy mocking our faith, you hypocritically rely on faith in many things yourselves. If you were not a lying hypocrite, you would throw away your cellphone, never listen to another radio broadcast, and burn X-ray technicians as heretics.

Job 8:13 So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:

God wrote that verse for you, friend. Isn't it time you start listening to Him?

Glory!

[RepentingJew]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

What does the weather have to do with the distance to the sun?

Weather might be more hellish if the sun was significantly closer.

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

...you know you'll get scientifically slaughtered by even an undergraduate meteorologist.

What does the weather have to do with the distance to the sun?

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

HAHAHAHAHAH Oh the irony, you're blasting him for accepting SCIENTIFIC PROOF on faith. Whnen, you, a christian, believe there is a god. Now, there is no evidence for God which means you accept it on faith. Stop being a hypocrite.
Also, why don't you, instead of posting on here, which is full of half-witted idiots, post it to a scientific website to get peer reviewed? I know why, because you know you'll get scientifically slaughtered by even an undergraduate meteorologist.

Welcome friend, please return when you are able to be coherent.
You know, Jesus is trying really hard to love you. Why do you waste the gifts He gave you? God made apes to make you look smart. Now all you are doing is making God look bad.

[Teenaged Shaun]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

However, what proof do they have? How do you know their figure is accurate? You just accept it on faith.

HAHAHAHAHAH Oh the irony, you're blasting him for accepting SCIENTIFIC PROOF on faith. Whnen, you, a christian, believe there is a god. Now, there is no evidence for God which means you accept it on faith. Stop being a hypocrite.
Also, why don't you, instead of posting on here, which is full of half-witted idiots, post it to a scientific website to get peer reviewed? I know why, because you know you'll get scientifically slaughtered by even an undergraduate meteorologist.

[Stupid Scottish Drunk]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Stupid Scottish Drunk James 5:12

What's that supposed to mean? Anyway, isn't all of this a bit

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Stupid Scottish Drunk James 5:12

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you were on trial, and the only evidence you could present to defend yourself was 'I didn't do it',...

You are on trial, friend. Jesus is judging you right this very minute. He watches you all the time, including when you spank your money while trying on mommy's clothes. Including when you barge into God's favorite forum with the intention of spitting in His loving face. God is going to wad you up like yesterday's trash and hurl you down to hell, where He will see to it that you are tortured in unspeakably horrible ways for all eternity.

And Jesus and I will laugh at you the whole time up in Heaven.

"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:4

Ready to repent now, Ginger?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you were on trial, and the only evidence you could present to defend yourself was 'I didn't do it', and the only people who could back this up were gullible children who quote you back as saying 'I didn't do it', and the prosecution not only flatly contradicted you but did so in many ways using many sources of evidence, then the jury would have to be mentally ill to acquit you.

Well with the Bible, we have a very similar case. The ONLY evidence we have that the Bible is the word of God is that the people who wrote it said it's the word of God, but they were indoctrinated in its teachings so obviously they'd say that. Not good enough, friend.

You're confused, friend. If you were to operate in a court of law, then your methodology would be appropriate. The LORD, however, is not confined to a human, fallible, 21st century Court of Law Methodology. The LORD is omniscient and perfect, therefore we need not put Him on trial to discover hidden truths.

So your question will be, How do we know the LORD is perfect and trustworthy?

Well, there are many ways to discern this. One is by reading the Holy Bible with an open mind and sufficient knowledge. God gave us the Bible as evidence and illustration of His love for us. God communicated to mankind what He is like and how we can have a right relationship with Him. In fact, having a right relationship with Him is so important, that everything in Creation points to this.

The Holy Bible is but one glorious testament to this, and we can have confidence in its credibility. For example, even though Holy Scriptures is made of sixty-six individual books, written on three continents, in three different languages, over a period of approximately 1500 years, by more than 40 authors who came from many walks of life, most of which didn't know each other personally. And yet, the Bible remains one unified book from beginning to end without contradiction! You can't explain it outside Divine Providence!

But the Holy Bible itself isn't the only revelation of God's Trustworthiness. This authority and power of the LORD are best seen in the way countless lives have been transformed by the supernatural power of God’s Word. Drug addicts have been cured by it, homosexuals set free by it, derelicts and deadbeats transformed by it, hardened criminals reformed by it, sinners rebuked by it, and hate turned to love by it!

Friend, as one sincerely looks to the LORD for Truth©, they learn to trust in Him little by little. As the newborn babe drinks only milk for nourishment, the newly Born Again Christian drinks of the Scriptures for nourishment (1 Peter 2:2). In time, the individual is strong enough to digest a more "meaty" Truth© (1 Corinthians 14:20).

I'll share with you a personal journey. When I was first Born Again, I wanted desperately to be obedient unto the LORD. My gratitude for having been Saved© was so great that I would let nothing get in my way of returning my love to my Savior. At first it seemed easy. I was cheerful, I was happy to help others, I was always in a good mood. But eventually the honeymoon ended, as it always does, but the relationship did not. I was called to greater and greater feats of obedience, feats that would have terrified the Old Creature that was Mary Unsaved (2 Corinthians 5:17).

For example, when Mr. Etheldreda noted a lack of obedience, he was determined to protect his family, and me, from demonic influences and sinful temptations. He talked to me about Christian Domestic Discipline,and as frightening as that sounded, I knew that if I truly trusted the LORD, I could trust my husband (1 Corinthians 11:3). And so I learned to submit. It wasn't easy, I will admit. In my flesh, I was terrified, I was even offended. I thought to myself, What self-respecting woman would allow her husband to spank her like a child? But of course, as a New Creature in Christ, respect isn't about me, it's about Him.

These kinds of changes in a person cannot be "proven" in a court of law. They are personal, intimate changes in one's character. They are, in essence, becoming the character of Christ, and you cannot prove Christ in a court of law because then He wouldn't value Faith.

If you are sincerely interested, you too can call on the power of Jesus to change your heart and you too can learn the value in trusting Him. You, like the desperate father, can learn to trust the LORD even when it looks to your rational, infallible mind, that belief is ridiculous:

And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears,
Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
Mark 9:24

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you were on trial, and the only evidence you could present to defend yourself was 'I didn't do it', and the only people who could back this up were gullible children who quote you back as saying 'I didn't do it', and the prosecution not only flatly contradicted you but did so in many ways using many sources of evidence, then the jury would have to be mentally ill to acquit you.

What a good job that a court will never make an incorrect decision based on the so called evidence.
/sarcasm

Well with the Bible, we have a very similar case. The ONLY evidence we have that the Bible is the word of God is that the people who wrote it said it's the word of God, but they were indoctrinated in its teachings so obviously they'd say that. Not good enough, friend.

So you are expecting a Christian who believes in the Bible as the inerrant word of God to abandon his most cherished beleifs because of weak analogy?

Matthew 4:4-10 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

True Christians(tm) are taught to be mindful of those who test our faith. But the teachings of the Bible armour me against such free thought.

YIC

[Stupid Scottish Drunk]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Please clarify what you mean. As a True Christian™ the Bible(KJV1611) is the highest level of evidence I utilise. I would go as far to flatter myself into thinking it is the only level of evidence I use.

If you beleive I have miss quoted the Bible please show me where I have done so.

YIC

If you were on trial, and the only evidence you could present to defend yourself was 'I didn't do it', and the only people who could back this up were gullible children who quote you back as saying 'I didn't do it', and the prosecution not only flatly contradicted you but did so in many ways using many sources of evidence, then the jury would have to be mentally ill to acquit you.

Well with the Bible, we have a very similar case. The ONLY evidence we have that the Bible is the word of God is that the people who wrote it said it's the word of God, but they were indoctrinated in its teachings so obviously they'd say that. Not good enough, friend.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

your evidence not coming from the Bible itself

Please clarify what you mean. As a True Christian(tm) the Bible(KJV1611) is the highest level of evidence I utilise. I would go as far to flatter myself into thinking it is the only level of evidence I use.

If you beleive I have miss quoted the Bible please show me where I have done so.

YIC

[Stupid Scottish Drunk]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I gave you the Bible, haven't I? What other kind of evidence would you possibly need?

Reliable evidence. Evidence that wasn't being preached to slave-holding goat herders 3,000 years ago, being the result of further learning and enlightenment.

But our Mighty God Himself told us that the Holy Bible should be taken 100% literally (2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:20). Why would we doubt our God?

Because he's not real. Your parents, teachers and preachers simply told you he's real from the moment you were born and because of that, you believe what you do. Had you been brought up in the same manner but in a Muslim community, your faith would be just as strong but aligned with another idol.

Such as?....

Difficult to find any because, much like the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages and during the Reformation, the admins remove any challenge that they can't respond to. I know this from personal experience. It just goes to show how childish some of you are, as you can't even accept it and admit defeat. It's also quite sad really that you can't open up and learn anything not linked to scripture, instead you throw out the truth and not the fallacy.

Please show how the Bile is not the word of God

Please show how it is, your evidence not coming from the Bible itself

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No, you BELIEVE it's the word of God. But just because you believe something doesn't make it true.

Again, back to the hell thing. I'll see you there

Please show how the Bile is not the word of God

YIC

[Basilissa]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I didn't feel the need to, considering that Basilissa failed to provide any reliable evidence that I was wrong about the sun's potential to eradicate all life on this planet.

I gave you the Bible, haven't I? What other kind of evidence would you possibly need?

Funny how hypocritical you fundamentalists are, you make such prudent statements and continue to believe in and proliferate the most absurd of fallacies, often with a line from a book that even most of your fellow Christians will admit should not always be taken literally, yet you expect us challengers to heavily back up our statements with mountains of evidence (which the scientists and rational philosophers among us usually have).

But our Mighty God Himself told us that the Holy Bible should be taken 100% literally (2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:20). Why would we doubt our God?

P.S. In terms of evidence for the Bible being refuted, I think this forum's enough

Such as?....