[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Your assumption that the Sun is more massive than the earth is based on a Innocent reading of the distance of the sun to the earth.

Pastor Billy-Reuben addresses that topic right here with powerful teaching.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076

So if the sun is only 500 miles away that would mean it was significantly smaller.

Yes, but if we wanted to introduce not only geocentrism, but flat Earth theory as well, it becomes increasingly difficult to prove your view and necessitates going beyond arguing about planetary mechanics to conspiracy theories about the space program.

If in fact the sun were a ball of coal 500 miles away, it would fail to account for a number of phenomena associated with the sun, namely: neutrino emission, solar flaring, and short-wavelength electromagnetic emissions.

If we assume that the Earth is in fact spherical, or that the sun is in fact fusion driven, it might be less difficult, but at the diameter being suggested, there would be insufficent gravity to actually cause a fusion reaction.

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Well it is better to be a wanna be than someone who judges others because they hold a book in their hand. I mean really all you are doing is making law out of a weak little novel a bunch of different people wrote... I could do the same with a harry potter book, the only differences being it was only written by one person and it isn't as outdated

Interesting how you feel the word of God is a weak little book. This really does expose you for the ignorant beast that you are. I very much doubt that a novel written in man's hand could ever replace the Bible.

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Well it is better to be a wanna be than someone who judges others because they hold a book in their hand. I mean really all you are doing is making law out of a weak little novel a bunch of different people wrote... I could do the same with a harry potter book, the only differences being it was only written by one person and it isn't as outdated

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Nietzsche, you always were a try-hard wannabe. The only real support I ever saw you get were from some pretty unsavoury characters.

Unlike me, a man of True Science, you simply don't understand the law of causality!

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

so an infant is a sinner? or is it because the infant is too young for faith? lol Sounds like an excuse to me

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

That's because religion CANNOT do anything for you. Ours is a faith, based on recieving the unconditional grace of God through the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ. Religions, on the other hand, are based on attempting to please a distant, impersonal god and hoping your good deeds outweigh your sins at the moment you die. No, really, look them up, they're all like that. No religion has a god that just GIVES you the ticket to Heaven with the acknowledgement that nothing you could ever do could possibly earn it.

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

I am just saying it doesn't matter what religion is involved no ones god is doing anything so they all blow donkey balls

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

Exactly. Why would God care about the Catholic church? You post as if they actually have any relevance to everyday life!

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

Careful what you say about God here. Sin must have consequences, original sin far more so.

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

So, by your own reasoning it would be impossible to tell the difference between an immobile earth and a rotating, orbiting earth, correct? This means geo verse helio centric solar system is a matter of personal interpretation. Two different conclusions reached from the same data.

All we are saying is teach the controversy.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that there are some things that God can't do? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Because mass does not account for all the gravity the Earth produces. You have to factor in the effects of sin as well.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that there are some things that God can't do? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

i wish hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for you "True" Christians. Your all idiots, the bible was created over thousands of years ago.. and you still base your lives around it. I believe in God, i'm just not as fanatic as all of you are.

I see your false Christian "caring" and "compassion" on display there.

You are all equal to the terrorists in the middle east

...says the person who wishes Hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for people who don't share your views.

But then why would of he created black people, jewish people, and atiest people, if he then wanted you to treat them like shit?

If you ever pulled the shrink wrap off of your Bible, you'd know.

Rom 9:20-24: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

I love America, but you people make me feel ashamed being part of it.

Feelings mutual.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Your assumption that the Sun is more massive than the earth is based on a Innocent reading of the distance of the sun to the earth.

Pastor Billy-Reuben addresses that topic right here with powerful teaching.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076

So if the sun is only 500 miles away that would mean it was significantly smaller.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

The issue isn't "does the earth rotate" it is does the "earth orbit the sun". None of what you discussed proved that the earth orbits the sun.

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.