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  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    How do you know what a True Christian™ would do? I'll bet you've never even set foot inside a church.

    God said not to judge. I have been in church many Sundays, good ones i must say. Great people in there, but i don't remember any of them talking hateful things about gays, and the world being flat, or Finland being hated by god (yes iv looked around the forum somewhat).

    And you have rudely ignored my direction to post an introduction.
    Sorry I kind of just wanted to skip it and have a conversation in here right away.

    Look, I'm not here to flame, I'm just here to help some of you realize that we are all just human, and any of us could be mistaken with what we "know". Nothing wrong with disagreeing I don't think. Especially when it comes to the truth.

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    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

      Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
      Sorry I kind of just wanted to skip it and have a conversation in here right away.

      Look, I'm not here to flame, I'm just here to help some of you realize that we are all just human, and any of us could be mistaken with what we "know". Nothing wrong with disagreeing I don't think. Especially when it comes to the truth.
      There is something wrong with disagreeing about God's Truth(c).

      That's how you get your ticket punched on the train to hell, friend.

      Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

      Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

      James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        There is something wrong with disagreeing about God's Truth©.

        That's how you get your ticket punched on the train to hell, friend.
        God help you People :|

        Ill make a bet with you. Ill being going to heaven while you burn in hell

        deal? loser gets to burn in hell lol

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        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

          Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
          God help you People :|

          Ill make a bet with you. Ill being going to heaven while you burn in hell

          deal? loser gets to burn in hell lol
          You're gambling with your life! Don't you realize that this is no laughing matter?! Jesus and I are going to laugh ourselves silly while we're up in Heaven listening to your screams from down in hellfire.

          "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:4
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            You're gambling with your life! Don't you realize that this is no laughing matter?! Jesus and I are going to laugh ourselves silly while we're up in Heaven listening to your screams from down in hellfire.
            It was not a laughing matter until I found this forum. Ill be honest, as a Christan my self, never have I laughed so hard in months.

            And FYI, I know Jesus better then you ever will.

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            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

              Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
              It was not a laughing matter until I found this forum. Ill be honest, as a Christan my self, never have I laughed so hard in months.
              A Christian who wants to debate against the Holy Word of God?

              If you're a Christian, then I'm the King of Texas.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
                And FYI, I know Jesus better then you ever will.
                Oh lemme guess, Jesus is your idea of the perfect buddy.

                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                  Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
                  And FYI, I know Jesus better then you ever will.
                  A messican named Hesus does not count, fool!

                  We know the Jesus of Nazareth© who was born of a virgin, suffered an immense amount of pain at the hands of barbarian joos, died on the cross, and rolled the stone away on the third day; who sits at the right hand of the Father®.

                  We know him through His Spirit, as the Bible says, you foul fool!

                  John
                  14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
                  14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
                  14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

                  This is why we have peace in the face of your persecution.

                  John
                  15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

                  Thus, know this, that wen any one of us TrueChristians™ speak to you, and since the Holy Spirit lives in us, the Kingdom of God is at your door. To reject us is to spit in the face of the Lord Jesus.

                  1 John
                  2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

                  Thus, we abide IN Him, and you do not but are cast forth as a withering branch that is to be burned.
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                  Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
                  Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
                  Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
                  Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
                  Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
                  Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

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                  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                    Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
                    Sorry I kind of just wanted to skip it and have a conversation in here right away.
                    You are here to do nothing until you submit to God's Appointed Authority(r) by going to introduce yourself.

                    Even Jesus had to submit to John the Baptist, and be Baptized. Therefore, since you are not greater than Jesus, you must submit.

                    Matthew
                    3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
                    3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
                    3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
                    3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

                    Notice, after this, the Father was well pleased, but not until Jesus submitted to John's authority.

                    3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


                    Your rebellion is witchcraft!

                    1 Samuel
                    15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

                    Therefore, it is clear that you are in no way, a Christian. You are a false-Christian, anti-Christ.
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                    Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
                    Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
                    Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
                    Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
                    Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
                    Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

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                    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                      Originally posted by MicroChris View Post
                      It was not a laughing matter until I found this forum. Ill be honest, as a Christan my self, never have I laughed so hard in months.

                      And FYI, I know Jesus better then you ever will.
                      I am offended by your glorification of the homosexual lifestyle. Dragging Jesus into your perversion isn't looking any better.

                      People like you really deserve the eternal punishment they will receive. I can't wait until Judgment Day.
                      The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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                      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                        Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                        We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


                        1) Jump!

                        Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

                        If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


                        2) Blow!
                        Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

                        This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

                        That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.


                        3) Get High!
                        Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

                        If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.


                        These experiments are all confirmed by creation scientists as being 100% accurate. If you're skeptical of the flat Earth, why don't you do these experiments so you can see truth with your own eyes.

                        Yours in Christ,

                        Rev. Jim Osborne

                        Dear Jim!

                        I'm glad to have found your post so that I can help you with your claims about the earth being flat. There are some severe flaws in your theory.

                        1)

                        To your first experiment. When talking about velocity you have to be clear about which coordinate system you are talking about. If you are sitting in a truck which is moving 50 miles/hour, then you are still relative the truck. But you are moving 50 miles/hour relative the ground. If you jump in the car while it's moving (of course you shouldn't do this since it is dangerous!) you wouldn't move an inch, since you have zero velocity relative the truck. If you jump in the truck, then you will move relative the ground since while in the air, you and the truck will travel 50 miles/hour and thus moving relative the ground. So that's the simple answer to your first question.


                        2)

                        There is something called gravity. Because of gravity, there is a force between physical bodies which is proportional to it's mass.

                        The force can be calculated as F = G*M*m/r^2 where G is the gravity constant, G = 6,67384*10^-11 m^3kg^-1s^-2. M and m are the two masses in the unit kg. r is the distance between the object in meter. F is in the unit Newton. One meter is approximately 39,37 inches. One kg is about 2,2 pounds. This is something we can measure and it reality fits very well with these calculations.

                        The mass of earth is approximately 5,9742*10^24 kg while a balloon is only a few grams.

                        If you then calculate the force between the piece of paper and the earth, that force will be much greater than the force between the paper and the balloon. Simple physics.

                        The suns mass is much bigger than the earths, but since the sun is located much further away, the force to the sun will still be small compared to the force to earth. Note the r^2 in the denominator. Feel free to calculate the force yourself!

                        That's the simple answer to your second question.


                        3)

                        For your third "experiment" you need some geometry knowledge.

                        Let R denote the radius of the earth, h the height from the ground to your eyes, and d the distance to the horizon. With Pythagoras theorem you can derive the distance to the horizon as d = square root (h(2R+h)). With a man with normal height, the distance is a few miles. Since earth obviously is not exactly spherical (there are mountains and curvatures) these calculations are not precise but they do fit very well. Obviously, if there is a mountain in front of you which is taller than you are, then you can't see past it.

                        In your theory, if earth would be flat, you would be able to see infinitely long which is not the case. And how come you can travel east from America and end up in west if the earth is flat?


                        Note that this is no new theory. It's at least a few hundred years old and is known by teenagers who has been to school.

                        Good luck with everything and have a great life! =)
                        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                          Originally posted by Galois View Post
                          *** proof-positive it didn't read the thread ***
                          Hello Gauloises!

                          Please make your way to the introduction Forum and tell us all about yourself.

                          We want to get to know you!

                          Yours in Christ,

                          Z. Smyth
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                          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                            Hello Zechariah Smyth!

                            First of all, my name is spelled "Galois", thank you!

                            According to the introduction forum, I am asked to introduce myself by telling my favorite Bible verse and how I came to find Jesus. The problem is that I don't go to church and I haven't 'found' Jesus. If you still wish to know more about me, please ask me anything and I'll answer you! Maybe you'll be able to help me find Jesus!

                            Take care Zechariah!
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                              Originally posted by Galois View Post
                              Hello Zechariah Smyth!

                              First of all, my name is spelled "Galois", thank you!

                              According to the introduction forum, I am asked to introduce myself by telling my favorite Bible verse and how I came to find Jesus. The problem is that I don't go to church and I haven't 'found' Jesus. If you still wish to know more about me, please ask me anything and I'll answer you! Maybe you'll be able to help me find Jesus!

                              Take care Zechariah!
                              Well, maybe a good idea would be to start a thread in the Intro forum detailing exactly why you have decided to reject Jesus and His tender mercies.

                              Once we know the source of your hate, we can help you on the Path to Salvation.

                              YiC,

                              Zech
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                              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                                Dear Zechariah!

                                I don't hate. I think it's important to have understanding for one another. I haven't decided to reject Jesus, I just haven't found him yet.

                                But as it seems, I might not be able to explain myself since I was just told that I have committed the act of infraction because of my first post. Such a shame...

                                Maybe you have some ideas of what I can bring up in the introduction forum?

                                /Galois
                                Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                                abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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