[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon. The distance between the moon and earth is constant [238,857 miles] And the time it takes for the laser to leave the device bounce off the mirror and return to earth is approximately 2.5 seconds.

Leaving the following calculation 238,857mi/2.5s = 186,000 mi/s.

Let me know if any of this basic algebra is unclear.

No it's not. Look up sungazing.

http://solarhealing.com/

http://www.sungazing.com/652.html

Bates Method (Sunning):



Scientists lie that sunlight can damage our vision, but it can't, because light is going out of our eyes, not into it.

[clownbaby]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

No it's not. Look up sungazing.

http://solarhealing.com/

http://www.sungazing.com/652.html

Bates Method (Sunning):



Scientists lie that sunlight can damage our vision, but it can't, because light is going out of our eyes, not into it.

So next time there is a solar eclipse are you willing to stare at the sun?

[barton]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

One common way of measuring the speed of light, is bouncing a laser off a mirror placed on the moon.

I stopped reading right here. What utter gobbledygook is this? You expect me to believe you put a mirror on the moon?

This is the perverse problem with people like you. You make all these crazy assertions, expect us to blindly believe whatever you say, use all sorts of bizarre calculations. It's all so very, very improbable. Then, of course, we have God's inerrant written Word which tells us everything we need to know, in specific terms.

I mean, seriously. I should believe you over God? That's really messed up!

However, taking your ridiculous experiment at face value... how can you be so sure the problem is not with the mirror? I think it's more likely that all mirrors exhibit a delayed response, which is obviously exacerbated by distance and perhaps mirror quality. If you used a better mirror, there would be less reflective delay. With much shorter distances, like from across my living room, the delay is imperceptible. (Note, this only deals with mirrored surfaces).

In fact, I'd say this test is great way to do quality control on mirrors. The smaller the delay, the more precious the mirror!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

So next time there is a solar eclipse are you willing to stare at the sun?

Yes, of course!

Because if you watched the video, you would understand sungazing is relevant to all ancient cultures. The knowledge though about it became lost, but it is only now being rediscovered.

Many early Christians practiced sungazing. It's a form of breatharianism or inedia (extreme fasting), where you fully abstain from eating or drinking. There are many Christians who believe Adam and Eve were originally breathatarians and sungazers (there was no meat before the fall).

Ratan Manek achieved no eating or drinking for 211 days via sungazing. Nicholas of Flüe, the patron saint of Switzerland achieved fasting for 19 years. There are other accounts of where people have survived for very long periods without eating or drinking because of sungazing. Sungazing is not only apart of eastern teaching, but is something everyone was originally doing. How it was done however became lost like most other ancient knowledge. If you look up the accounts of Christian mystics who lived for tens of years without eating or drinking. How did they do it? They did it through the sun.

[mathmexican]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You guys are absolutely right. Secular science is absolutely false and full of heretics that should burn in hell, the only things that can be believed in are the holy scripture. What would we do without it?! We would not have anything worth living in this world. Thank you for understanding this.

[Andrewg]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The light reached the earth some time ago. You are here now, so you can see them.
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I am ashamed. You plug your ears when a scientist talks, and take what little you heard out of context. I am ashamed.

[James Dewitt]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The light reached the earth some time ago. You are here now, so you can see them.
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I am ashamed. You plug your ears when a scientist talks, and take what little you heard out of context. I am ashamed.

If the light is millions of years old and just reached us why do the headlights on my car stop after a few hundred feet? Or do the shine all the way to the stars?

We are ashamed that you call yourself a Christian.

[SoulMan]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If the light is millions of years old and just reached us why do the headlights on my car stop after a few hundred feet? Or do the shine all the way to the stars?

We are ashamed that you call yourself a Christian.

You can see a car at night on a hill with it's light's on miles away. Also a aircraft lights at night you can see thousands of feet up your logic is flawed.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You can see a car at night on a hill with it's light's on miles away. Also a aircraft lights at night you can see thousands of feet up your logic is flawed.

The speed of light is a theory based on the theory of relativity, which attempts to connect space and time.

The theory of relativity though is just a theory. Theories are not fact. Anything with theory in it's name is not proven most notebly: the theory of evolution.

I could invent a theory now i.e the theory that the sky is yellow, so the ''Yellow Sky Theory''. Obviously this doesn't make it a fact, it's just theoretical.

Most evolutionists though have a hard time understanding what is fact and what is theory or assumption, speculation etc. They can't distinguish between the two, and so they think evolution and any other science theory which has a considerable amount of support is a fact when it isn't.

[Master Gordon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You guys are absolutely right. Secular science is absolutely false and full of heretics that should burn in hell, the only things that can be believed in are the holy scripture. What would we do without it?! We would not have anything worth living in this world. Thank you for understanding this.

Friend you are absolutely right, do you love Jesus?

[Master Gordon]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The speed of light is a theory based on the theory of relativity, which attempts to connect space and time.

The theory of relativity though is just a theory. Theories are not fact. Anything with theory in it's name is not proven most notebly: the theory of evolution.

I could invent a theory now i.e the theory that the sky is yellow, so the ''Yellow Sky Theory''. Obviously this doesn't make it a fact, it's just theoretical.

Most evolutionists though have a hard time understanding what is fact and what is theory or assumption, speculation etc. They can't distinguish between the two, and so they think evolution and any other science theory which has a considerable amount of support is a fact when it isn't.

Amen to that brother your logic is sound and it is crystal clear

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If the light was a million years old, it would be dim. The batteries in my flashlight can last barely a year.

[RomanK]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

You need to see the car to know that it passed you, right? What allows you to see the car, though? Light. This is why we know that things are illuminated instantaneously. If there was an actual "travel time" for illumination... or an actual finite speed, if you will ...then there should be a relative offset in the illumination of objects traveling at different speeds.

However, there is no such difference in the speed at which things are illuminated. Therefore, light is transmitted instantaneously. Seems obvious to me, anyway. Or, are you going to argue for a special case, with respect to light speed? That would be ridiculous... who could possibly support that???

Also, light is described throughout the Bible. In 1st Timothy 6, we read:

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Light that no man can approach is obviously light that "travels" at infinite speed. Also, in Acts 22, we read about a "sudden" light:

6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

It doesn't say "slowly there shone". It says "suddenly". Like a switch, the lights come on... no delay. Why would there be? So, it's pretty clear to me that the Bible teaches that light has no travel time. There are many, many other passages that directly support this, too.

The only reason you'd disagree would be because you don't believe the Bible. Is this the case?

Of course this makes sense when you have not an area to test the theory, I tell you what you go over about 5 galaxies and I'll turn on my porch light and radio back and you tell me when it turns on, but of course you will also have to factor in the speed of sound! So it might take twice as long to get the call.

[RomanK]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The speed of light is a theory based on the theory of relativity, which attempts to connect space and time.

The theory of relativity though is just a theory. Theories are not fact. Anything with theory in it's name is not proven most notebly: the theory of evolution.

I could invent a theory now i.e the theory that the sky is yellow, so the ''Yellow Sky Theory''. Obviously this doesn't make it a fact, it's just theoretical.

Most evolutionists though have a hard time understanding what is fact and what is theory or assumption, speculation etc. They can't distinguish between the two, and so they think evolution and any other science theory which has a considerable amount of support is a fact when it isn't.

The concept of god writing the bible is just theory as well!

Oh and btw light can't travel faster than the particles that carry it.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

The concept of god writing the bible is just theory as well!

No, God did have the Bible written. Throughout history, that has never been in dispute.

Oh and btw light can't travel faster than the particles that carry it.

That would be slow as the dust in the air at my home barely moves at all.