[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If you cannot reply to anything I actually wrote

Allow me to reply to what you actually wrote. You are an idiot!

[barton]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Nothing! Did I say it did? No, don't think so.
Stars are a source of light, and THAT is why we are able to see them, not because they would be reflecting anything, as that is what you stated:

"Light is what enables us to see the snail and the car. Therefore it is also what enables us to see the star."

So, there is a difference between light that is emitted and light that is reflected? I did not make such a distinction... you did.

Try to keep up. Whether or not a light is reflected speaks not at all to your preposterous theory that light travels at a speed. Can you not grasp your logical problem here?

After centuries of increasingly precise measurements, in 1975 the speed of light was known to be 299,792,458 m/s

Seems to me you cannot even keep your story straight. The number you put out for this so-called speed of light keeps changing. The Word of God does not change.

And why would the measurement units and methods be corrupt or foul?

The evils of the metric system are beyond the scope of this thread. Suffice to say, they are the concoction of a particularly nasty Dutch piece of work, further developed by a small group of gay French, English and German men as they lay exhausted after a round of rough anal sex.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If I had to guess, I doubt [the sun] entirely shuts off but more likely goes into "sleep mode" as it gets to the far edge of the geodisc. God's not one for waste.

I agree. I have thought about this, and the proof is that we all know it gets chillier at night. If the sun were always on "full strength" when it was traveling under us on the other side of the geodisc, we would be equally warm (or almost equally warm) at night as during the day, because the heat would come up through the ground.

We know from experience and scientific experiments that that doesn't happen. So I agree the sun goes into some sort of other "sleep mode" at night, that isn't as hot.

[villainy]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

Scientists say stars are million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light million light years away now?

I'm not millions of years old, i'm 20.

because the stars were there millions of years ago, and thus we are only just seeing them now as the light is reaching earth,

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

because the stars were there millions of years ago, and thus we are only just seeing them now as the light is reaching earth,

So you were watching the sky for a million years to verify this?

[clownbaby]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

So you were watching the sky for a million years to verify this?

Yes.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

because the stars were there millions of years ago, and thus we are only just seeing them now as the light is reaching earth,

And you are assuming the intromission theory is true which you can not prove.

[Marshall]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

How am I supposed to see something that supposedly happened millions of years ago? When an airplane passes overhead at night the lights are just as real and bright and are BEING SEEN AT THE SAME TIME. That means your science is flawed otherwise it would take millions of years for me to see the plane!

[RomanK]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Regarding some scientific evidence against the speed of light, from what i remember when i studied science a while back i was told that light can not travel through a vaccum (as sound cant). Therefore i have no idea why people believe starlight travels through space. Astronomers knew this for many years which is why they were searching for some kind of aether.

Really, then explain then why flare's are seen coming from the center of blackholes. They twist in the same fashion as DNA. This is also acknowledged in galaxies and nebula.

As far as light not being able to traveling faster than the particles that carry them. I guess you guys have forgotten about neutrinos. There are three types and they can go through anything, and are moving real fast, faster than light.

As for the word of God. Did you know history has proven over 18 Pagan Gods that died on a cross/tree just like that of Christ. Not to mention all the pagan gods that had 12 diciples. Horus, buddah, ect.

The only real shame I see with religion is that you ignore that we are all apart of one being and that we are all interconnected. And to think you do this because you have no ability to connect with anything other than your own ego.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Really, then explain then why flare's are seen coming from the center of blackholes. They twist in the same fashion as DNA. This is also acknowledged in galaxies and nebula.

Only a pervert would perceive the universe this way.

As far as light not being able to traveling faster than the particles that carry them. I guess you guys have forgotten about neutrinos. There are three types and they can go through anything, and are moving real fast, faster than light.

You've been watching too much Star Wars.

As for the word of God. Did you know history has proven over 18 Pagan Gods that died on a cross/tree just like that of Christ. Not to mention all the pagan gods that had 12 diciples. Horus, buddah, ect.

Oh yeah? Well how many of those Pagan gods rose from the dead and were seen by those disciples before rising into Heaven to sit beside God the Father? How many of those Pagan gods are supported by the GOP?

The only real shame I see with religion is that you ignore that we are all apart of one being and that we are all interconnected. And to think you do this because you have no ability to connect with anything other than your own ego.

I am not one with you. That is a filthy, lecherous notion.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Really, then explain then why flare's are seen coming from the center of blackholes. They twist in the same fashion as DNA. This is also acknowledged in galaxies and nebula.

As far as light not being able to traveling faster than the particles that carry them. I guess you guys have forgotten about neutrinos. There are three types and they can go through anything, and are moving real fast, faster than light.

As for the word of God. Did you know history has proven over 18 Pagan Gods that died on a cross/tree just like that of Christ. Not to mention all the pagan gods that had 12 diciples. Horus, buddah, ect.

The only real shame I see with religion is that you ignore that we are all apart of one being and that we are all interconnected. And to think you do this because you have no ability to connect with anything other than your own ego.

If you believe that light travels that means you start at the assumption of the intromission theory.

Starting at assumptions is not scientific.

And saying Einsteins theories are empirical is ignorant.

A theory = something not proven scientifically.

Definition of theory:

An assumption based on information or knowledge; a conjecture.

If that's what you think science is, then no wonder you believe in evolution.

[DavidGoliath]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

If you believe that light travels that means you start at the assumption of the intromission theory.

Starting at assumptions is not scientific.

And saying Einsteins theories are empirical is ignorant.

A theory = something not proven scientifically.

Definition of theory:

An assumption based on information or knowledge; a conjecture.

If that's what you think science is, then no wonder you believe in evolution.

Definition of scientific theory: An explanation of why and how a specific natural phenomenon occurs. A lot of hypotheses are based on theories. In turn, theories may be redefined as new hypotheses are tested. Examples of theories: Newton’s Theory of Gravitation, Darwin’s Theory of Evolution, Mendel’s theory of Inheritance, Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Definition of scientific theory: An explanation of why and how a specific natural phenomenon occurs. A lot of hypotheses are based on theories. In turn, theories may be redefined as new hypotheses are tested. Examples of theories: Newton’s Theory of Gravitation, Darwin’s Theory of Evolution, Mendel’s theory of Inheritance, Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

I've debunked the entire Old Age Universe theory and it frustrates atheists like you that they have no valid response.

If you believe starlight travels you have to assume the intromission theory is true. Yet this can never be proven.

[DavidGoliath]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

I'm not frustrated and I don't practice Atheism.

I'm simply giving you the definition of scientific theory.

Because you provided a definition on theory, assuming that it had to do with scientific theory.

Shows how you can assume too!

Good job!

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Only a pervert would perceive the universe this way.

You've been watching too much Star Wars.

Oh yeah? Well how many of those Pagan gods rose from the dead and were seen by those disciples before rising into Heaven to sit beside God the Father? How many of those Pagan gods are supported by the GOP?

I am not one with you. That is a filthy, lecherous notion.

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

The only common sense post from someone else in the thread so far. I was losing hope.