Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
What are the Demonicrat commies who run the Not All That White At The Moment House doing with those billions of dollars, buying thousands of Taiwanese trannie prostitutes? That money could be going to worthy causes like discovering a cure for Gay (by putting a Bible in every home, for example), building a fence around America to keep out illegal wetbacks and syrup gulpers, teaching English and Creation in public schools, carving monuments into mountains honoring our Republican presidents, funding the War on Atheists, modernizing our stock of nuclear weapons, carpet bombing the Middle East, paving it over, and building a 7-11 in the center of it so the survivors would have a place to shop & work... the list goes on.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Math is perfect. It is never wrong. It is always the same. Never once, has 2+2 stopped being 4. Math is impossible to argue with because math is perfect. Whenever something is wrong, it is the fault of the user because math is never wrong.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Whatever you think of the 'idealised' numbers, the mathematical functions are not. They are absolute. Multiplication is multipication. A squre root is a square root. The results you get from using the funtions are as good as the numbers you put in.Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View PostHow can maths be used as evidence? Maths is necessarily Platonic in nature. It is idealised. The number one is simply an idealised expression of.9999999r
Colour me not impressed when maths can't even get 1 right.
YIC
However, numbers are not purely 'idealised'. One object is one object. One unit of defined length is one unit of defined length. If I have one brick it is not an idealised representation of 0.99999r of a brick. It is one brick.
So, given the problem of calculating the size of the planet, if you apply the correct formulae and input the correct measured quantities, you'll get a very good answer for the size of a planet to within the precision and accuracy permitted by the numbers you put in. At some point you can say that those inaccuracies really make no difference.
And we know this works well, because we have applied numbers we have obtained for sizes of planets to practical situations and they have worked. The Voyager probes, for example, relied absolutely on our prior determination of the size and mass of the outer planets to succeed in its mission. Since the probes worked, I think we can reasonably say that the mathematical 'prrof' we obtained of the size and mass was pretty damn good.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
How can maths be used as evidence? Maths is necessarily Platonic in nature. It is idealised. The number one is simply an idealised expression of.9999999rOriginally posted by IdiocyofMYUniverse View PostI did state I would prefer mathematics evidence, but you didn't provide that because I'm assuming you don't have the understanding of how it's done. Using laser beams we can calculate its the distance between its poles and the earth and the angle between the lines. Using this, we can calculate the diameter and therefore the radius. Then it is a simple case of using 4/3 * pi * r^3 to work out the volume and 4 * pi * r^2 to work out the surface area. Case Closed.
God has never won. You have no evidence that God exist, that Mars has anything to do with God, that anything in the universe has anything to do with God. It's just you coming up with assumptions without any evidence.
Colour me not impressed when maths can't even get 1 right.
YIC
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
I did state I would prefer mathematics evidence, but you didn't provide that because I'm assuming you don't have the understanding of how it's done. Using laser beams we can calculate its the distance between its poles and the earth and the angle between the lines. Using this, we can calculate the diameter and therefore the radius. Then it is a simple case of using 4/3 * pi * r^3 to work out the volume and 4 * pi * r^2 to work out the surface area. Case Closed.Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View PostJust look in the sky when both a hot air balloon and Mars are visible. Then you can easily see that Mars is not bigger than a hot air balloon. Case closed. (Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God has never won. You have no evidence that God exist, that Mars has anything to do with God, that anything in the universe has anything to do with God. It's just you coming up with assumptions without any evidence.Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View PostGod wins! God always wins!
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Just look in the sky when both a hot air balloon and Mars are visible. Then you can easily see that Mars is not bigger than a hot air balloon. Case closed. God wins! God always wins! (Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)Originally posted by IdiocyofMYUniverse View PostAnd where is your evidence (preferably mathematics) for proving Mars is not bigger than a hot air balloon?
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
It doesn't really work as driving a car...Originally posted by James Hutchins View PostYeah... right... some one put one of those jap remote control cars on Mars and is driving it around.
Where is you evidence to back this up?Originally posted by James Hutchins View PostFirst off, those things only have a range of about 1/2 mile.
And where is your evidence (preferably mathematics) for proving Mars is not bigger than a hot air balloon?Originally posted by James Hutchins View PostSecond, Mars is simply too small, probably not much bigger than hot air ballon.
NASA did make an engineering model of the Curiosity rover, which is called "Scarecrow".Originally posted by James Hutchins View PostI have heard from people who have seen it, that little car thing is in the USA.
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Yeah... right... some one put one of those jap remote control cars on Mars and is driving it around. Not possible friend. First off, those things only have a range of about 1/2 mile. Second, Mars is simply too small, probably not much bigger than hot air ballon.
I have heard from people who have seen it, that little car thing is in the USA.
Here are a few of the 'opps' pictures that Industrial Light had not yet doctored:
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
I know this because I've done it, I've done the calculations, and I've done the coordinates in where the signal is coming from. You say science is a lie, however, I'm wondering how you think your computers, planes, cars, trains, phones, electricity, television; all day equipment and technology that you use, were made?Originally posted by ScienceHater View PostDo you know this? It's science, which is a lie.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Only science that disagrees with the Truth of the Bible(KJV1611).Originally posted by ScienceHater View PostDo you know this? It's science, which is a lie.
When science says that the gaywise are child rapists we must conclude that this is the case, I expect?
YIC
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Do you know this? It's science, which is a lie.Originally posted by RealityofMYUniverse View PostConsidering the amount of people involved in these projects it'd cost more to pay them to keep quiet than to actually send a rover to Mars. If you have capacity to listen to signals from mars, you may receive the signals from the probes now active. This will give you the distance and direction from which you can deduce it was from Mars.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Who is to say that most of the people working on those projects even know the truth? They're just looking at blips on a computer screen that could have been fed in from who knows where.Originally posted by RealityoftheUniverse View PostConsidering the amount of people involved in these projects it'd cost more to pay them to keep quiet than to actually send a rover to Mars...
Really? How?...If you have capacity to listen to signals from mars, you may receive the signals from the probes now active. This will give you the distance...
Of from the balloon with a transmitter, right?...and direction from which you can deduce it was from Mars.
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
Considering the amount of people involved in these projects it'd cost more to pay them to keep quiet than to actually send a rover to Mars. If you have capacity to listen to signals from mars, you may receive the signals from the probes now active. This will give you the distance and direction from which you can deduce it was from Mars.Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View PostDid you actually go to Mars to verify the rover is there, or are you just repeating someone told you...
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The only thing people will know after your silly statements is that you are an idiot.Originally posted by RealityoftheUniverse View PostWe know Mars exist. We know there is no 'firmament'. We know there are rovers on Mars.
Did you actually go to Mars to verify the rover is there, or are you just repeating someone told you...
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Re: See the "Mars" rover's 360 degree panorama of a desert somewhere in New Mexico
I hope in time you can see the irony of your statement.Originally posted by RealityoftheUniverse View PostThey put billion of dollars in this mission to put a rover on Mars, not New Mexico. If it was in New Mexico, someone would have said. No one has said anything about it being fake.
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