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  • #16
    Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

    Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
    Also, considering George Washigton was, you know, our first President and a very important part of our revolution, if he was a miracle-performer, it would have been written down. But because it isn't, I know he didn't do any of that.
    But you cannot prove that he did not, as you have demonstrated in your ignorance of the matter. I can accept your failure.

    Yet, the miracles of Jesus were recorded and you reject them, because they were written down.

    You can prove neither assertion. Do you not understand how failed your arguments are? And how badly stained your sinful and corrupt soul is, because you hate Him?

    In Christ
    Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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    • #17
      Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

      Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
      But you cannot prove that he did not, as you have demonstrated in your ignorance of the matter. I can accept your failure.

      Yet, the miracles of Jesus were recorded and you reject them, because they were written down.

      You can prove neither assertion. Do you not understand how failed your arguments are? And how badly stained your sinful and corrupt soul is, because you hate Him?

      In Christ
      If thy were written about George Washigton I would hve rejected them too.

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      • #18
        Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

        Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
        If thy were written about George Washigton I would hve rejected them too.
        And yet you believe in technology and science, which is said to explain away miracles and make the miracles of Moses look like cheap, sleight-of-hand witchcraft.

        You, my deceived friend, have a supernatural bias, and that comes from a demon spirit.

        Pastor Ed

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        • #19
          Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

          Originally posted by ScienceisforFools View Post
          We know that some of the accounts composed long after Jesus was supposed to have lived are lies. For example, there was no world-wide Roman tax by decree of Augustus Ceasar any time near the time Jesus is supposed to have been born. How many brother is Jesus supposed to have had? See, not contemporary account, and the accounts written much later are full of contradictions and proved lies.
          You know there was no world-wide Roman tax? Prove it. What are these "proven lies"? Who proved it? In order to establish that they're lies, you'd have to use evidence, wouldn't you? Just another example of atheists only accepting the evidence that already falls in line with their pre-conceived world views. It is no wonder you've failed to find Jesus when every time an account for Jesus's miracles is presented you simply use some bogus and outdated reports as "proof" that they didn't happen. No matter what evidence or proof for Jesus you're shown, you're going to reject it because it contradicts the false evidence you were shown elsewhere.

          Go ahead, prove that the Bible is false and full of lies, I'm waiting.

          Originally posted by ScienceisforFools View Post
          If I told you that I can turn base metals into gold, you would likely ask me to prove it. I am a living human who you could visit and interrogate. You could challenge me and test the results of my claims...yet you would accept the testimony of the long dead ignorant writers of scripture without question? How does that make any sense or show any consistency on your part?
          Who should we trust, some person on the internet who claims to be able to turn metals into gold (yet somehow, has decided not to publicly done so for profit even though doing so could easily give him any amount of profit he has ever wanted) or God? Yeah, really tough call there .
          Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.

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          • #20
            Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

            Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
            All I am saying is that if supernatural actions were possible, they would be widespread and well-documented. Neither are true.
            You only say that because you've never been to a Peter Popoff faith healing revival. He makes people get up out of wheelchairs and walk. Let science try to explain that!

            Now, I am completely understanding that there are things that we don't fully understand
            There are certainly things that YOU don't understand.

            I am sure that there was a man, born roughly 2,000 years ago, named Jesus. I am fairly certain that he was a great man, and this gained followers, and people who admired him. I bet that they GREATLY exaggerated what he did to help people though. I reject the notion that Jesus was anything but a normal person that helped people out.
            Why are you fairly certain about any of this? The same sources that discuss Jesus's life discuss Jesus's miracles. I'm the first to admit that, just as with any other book, if there were anything in the Bible that was wrong, then the whole Bible would have been unreliable. That's why it's a damned good thing that every word of the Bible is literally true.
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            • #21
              Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

              Originally posted by alex.siegel View Post
              All I am saying is that if supernatural actions were possible, they would be widespread and well-documented. Neither are true. Now, I am completely understanding that there are things that we don't fully understand, so things we might think of as "supernatural" now may be possible in the future.

              Also, considering George Washigton was, you know, our first President and a very important part of our revolution, if he was a miracle-performer, it would have been written down. But because it isn't, I know he didn't do any of that.

              Also, if people did mention that Washington did do miracles, I would assume they were lying. Much like how I view Jesus. I am sure that there was a man, born roughly 2,000 years ago, named Jesus. I am fairly certain that he was a great man, and this gained followers, and people who admired him. I bet that they GREATLY exaggerated what he did to help people though. I reject the notion that Jesus was anything but a normal person that helped people out.
              But where is your scientific evidence that George Washington ever existed? Do you have any pictures for example? After all, all we have is history books saying that George Washington existed and founded the United States of America, just like all we have is the Bible (the greatest history book of all time) saying that Jesus existed, that He performed miracles and that He is the son of God. So not believing in Jesus is the exact same thing as not believing in George Washington.

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              • #22
                Re: Atheists don't believe George Washington existed!

                Originally posted by Ex-Viking View Post
                But where is your scientific evidence that George Washington ever existed? Do you have any pictures for example? After all, all we have is history books saying that George Washington existed and founded the United States of America, just like all we have is the Bible (the greatest history book of all time) saying that Jesus existed, that He performed miracles and that He is the son of God. So not believing in Jesus is the exact same thing as not believing in George Washington.
                Ex Viking--It is such a pleasure to see you and other True Christians(TM) debate hapless atheists here.

                There are portraits painted of George Washington, also of Jesus.
                Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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