[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

Any deity that would require me to kill someone I love in order to prove my love/loyalty to him/her it, can go piffle him/her/itself. It's worthy of contempt, not worship.

And yet you worship satan on a daily basis.

Lie much?

[Old Iron Crotch]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

Any deity that would require me to kill someone I love in order to prove my love/loyalty to him/her it, can go piffle him/her/itself. It's worthy of contempt, not worship.

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

Sorry I can get a bit intolerant with things I disagree with.

What do you think a child would define the word "born" as?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

I hail from the lucky country. I'm old enough to get in trouble, but young enough to recover relatively quickly.

Well you clearly were'nt lucky enough to have been blessed by God and born in His favorite country (America). And you won't recover from the etrnal damnation that awaits you in hell if you don't repent and accept Christ as your Personal Savior.

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

I ask again; How old are you and what Godless country do you hail from?

I hail from the lucky country. I'm old enough to get in trouble, but young enough to recover relatively quickly.

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

Those definitions are from typing "define: straw man" and "define: red herring" into google search engine

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

I ask again; How old are you and what Godless country do you hail from?

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

How old are you son? American isn't your first language, is it...

No American isn't my first language. I'd say I'm older than you by the look of your avatar. Definitions of red herring below, it is commonly known to mean a trick or diversion, bird, or name of a prospectus.

any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue
A FALSE clue which points the reader onto the wrong trail and puts off solving the mystery.
a dried and smoked herring having a reddish color
preliminary prospectus: a first draft of a prospectus; must be clearly marked to indicate that parts may be changed in the final prospectus; "because some portions of the cover page are printed in red ink a preliminary prospectus is sometimes called a red herring"
a dried and smoked herring having a reddish color


Definitions of straw man

front man: a person used as a cover for some questionable activity
a weak or sham argument set up to be easily refuted
scarecrow: an effigy in the shape of a man to frighten birds away from seeds
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw man

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

^^^

Maybe red herring is a better term.

How old are you son? American isn't your first language, is it...

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

^^^

Maybe red herring is a better term.

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

LSD, the Bible is God's Word. How can God's Word be a straw man? Do you even know what the term "straw man" means? http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html

Dinosaurs drowned in the Flood, and were fossilized in the layers of silt left behind when the waters receded. Everybody knows that! Didn't you go to school?

Yes I do know what a straw man is. Wasn't the right term to use, but I think you get my point.

I did go to school, but it was a "special" school, you know the one that teaches as best it can facts and things that are known to be true. The only time I was taught religion at school was when I was in and upto year 3 or 4, at about 8 or 9 years of age. It didn't make any more sense then either.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

No I didn't know that about rebellion. Sure that's not a way to control you? The ultimate test would be to risk eternal damnation from god by disobeying his order to, for instance, offer a son up for scarifice(what was that story, or is it a catholic thing?). If heaven is the paradise it's meant to be, that would be the ultimate test for entry, then god would know how true you were to yourself and your beliefs, to put "nothing" ahead of doing what is right.

God has already done this. These verses are from the Book of Judges.

(Basically, Jephthah vows to the Lord that if he is granted victory in battle, he will sacrifice to the Lord whatever comes out of his house first on his return. His young daughter comes out the house first and he sacrifices her. This shows that if you vow before The Lord, you MUST keep your vow.)

J'g:11:30: And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
J'g:11:31: Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
[…]
J'g:11:33: And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
J'g:11:34: And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
J'g:11:35: And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
J'g:11:36: And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
J'g:11:37: And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
J'g:11:38: And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
J'g:11:39: And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
J'g:11:40: That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.

[gsdkain]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

It sounds plausible. God frequently gives people utterly insane commands as a test to see if they'll obey Him. He gets very offended if they don't. Did you know that rebellion is equal to the sin of witchcraft?

No I didn't know that about rebellion. Sure that's not a way to control you? The ultimate test would be to risk eternal damnation from god by disobeying his order to, for instance, offer a son up for scarifice(what was that story, or is it a catholic thing?). If heaven is the paradise it's meant to be, that would be the ultimate test for entry, then god would know how true you were to yourself and your beliefs, to put "nothing" ahead of doing what is right.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

OK thanks, that explains it. I have read a cartoon, therefore it is true.
You do realise the bible is a strawman right?

These are the same people who thought the earth was flat and lightening was thunderbolts from gods bum.

I suppose the devil put the dinosaur bones in the earth too, right?

Oh and I find it funny that I get an infraction for saying the obscene word for excrement, but people can be racist with no problems.

LSD, the Bible is God's Word. How can God's Word be a straw man? Do you even know what the term "straw man" means? http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html

Dinosaurs drowned in the Flood, and were fossilized in the layers of silt left behind when the waters receded. Everybody knows that! Didn't you go to school?

[zwynenburg]

Re: Are baptists the only true christians?

I'm not sure but I think any Christian church that teaches from the Bible is really Christian.

Now if you look at roman-catholics, they have alot of things that they like to add to their religion, which has nothing to do with the Bible.