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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
    God might let in a few as scullery maids or as dancers at heavenly luaus and whatnot
    II Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us

    Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.​

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    Clearly anyone pretending to "accept Jesus" is a namby-pamby half-baked varlet deserving no good thing, unlike the full-blown scumbag whose activities are not counterfeiting anything. “I am a crook,” we learn, if we pay attention. “Everything I say is false and I will rob you blind. If possible I will then steal your country, shoot all your generals, sell off the navy (perhaps even to France) and install a truckload of trained monkeys to run everything which I have around here somewhere. But if I don't, I'll take over all the zoos and you'll get hippopotamuses so you'd better start training the monkeys!” Such a creature not lukewarm.

    Meanwhile, in Heaven, there is a reigning activity going on. Jesus is king of everything, all the bubbleheads have been shot off into the flaming lake where their worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched Mark 9:48 and happiness is real at last, just as God intended from Day One – except Eve turned up, bringing down The Curse on everything. This will then have been undone. But over whom should we reign? Not the incinerated wretches, one would hope. Who'd want them around? Especially if they were one's parents or children? So, although not demon possessed, and whether for entertainment purposes or other duties, but definitely not aligned with "alternative" versions of paradise where being one amounts to a worse fate than fire pits IMO, certain lesser types must be available to reign over (just not "lukewarm" species) otherwise what would be the point of reigning at all? That is patently ridiculous and God is not ridiculous. That is why The Bible is not ridiculous.
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    Revelation 22:3-5 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants [Christians] shall serve him: and they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.​​

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  • Johny Joe Hold
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    One of the bright spots for Christianity has been our local jails. Usually they are run by a local Sheriff who is Christian. The Sheriff hires a local Baptist to be the jail's chaplain. The chaplain holds Bible study in jail and the prisoners who attend can ask the chaplain to recommend an early release. Those who regularly attend Bible study get out early and other prisoners learn the benefits of Jesus. It's a win-win.

    Now, this system of Christian mission is being threatened. A prisoner in Colorado was ordered to spend his parole time at a Christian mission. He was required to attend Bible instruction at the Mission but refused because he is an atheist. The judge sent him back to jail for several months.

    Instead of finding Jesus, the prisoner found ACLU. ACLU and its partners in crime sued the jail. The court ordered the jail to pay the prisoner $100,000 for jail's Christian instruction. That guy should still be in jail and forced to stay there until he finds Jesus.

    Atheist jailed for not attending church wins $100K settlement | U.S. News (christianpost.com)

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  • WWJDnow
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    I know that I don't want my eternal reward sitting next to Jesus to be marred by the presence of a bunch of ignorant, dark-skinned savages who haven't heard the Good News of Jesus Christ. Who knows what kind of sins they'd commit in Heaven? Perhaps God might let in a few as scullery maids or as dancers at heavenly luaus and whatnot, but I don't want to have to call the INS to report my neighbors in Heaven the way I do here on Earth. And, for God's sake, I don't want to have to deal with people speaking languages other than English after I die.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post

    https://www.christianpost.com/voices/the-great-commission-is-the-antidote-to-the-pandemic-of-sin.html
    In fact, as I was sitting down some days ago preparing to write out a testimony regarding our trip, I received a text from one of the team members on the ground there asking for prayer for a demon-possessed boy named Nishant. I’m excited to report that two hours after we asked our local church to pray for Nishant, I received another unsolicited update letting us know that it seems Nishant was delivered. Praise the Lord!
    Genesis 1:31 – 2:2 God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
    When God made eyeball worms and botflies He described them as Very Good© because there was no sin in the world. Once Eve started operating, that changed almost immediately. The Scripture reference is explicit that everything was already made by then. God did not start moonlighting on Himself by doing another batch to infect eyeballs or burrow into the skin as maggots.

    Even thorns and thistles were not created to impede agriculture Genesis 3:18 but either had their nature changed or previously grew somewhere else. Was that was an act of God, causing thornless varieties to sprout spikes, or the direct influence of sin? For example, an appropriately tuned pipe organ causing its building to collapse is a direct result of the sound. God doesn't say,“O that organ is producing a dreadful sound I'd better go and disintegrate the building.” The sound pressure alone is enough to do that. Sin could directly cause spikes to sprout OR God could modify the plants in some way OR preexisting thistles and thorns growing elsewhere could have been introduced.

    Loathsome disease is rampant in SE Asia, all of Asia actually, but just as God has not told us how thistles got here—because it's unimportant—so it is with worms and maggots. The interaction between humans and other lifeforms might never have had a botfly ready to deposit maggots in the same place as a human at the same time. Similarly with eyeball worms. Your eye needs to be where the worm is if it's going jo jump into your eye. They could have already existed or their nature could have become infused with sin, radiating out from Eve, just as Adam was infused.

    The sin lifestyle clearly brings humans and The Botts into close proximity. It's a straightforward infection. Demons however have changed their nature from angelic beings to vile incorporeal agents every bit as keen to jump in as botflies and worms but lacking the means to do so without explicit invitation. False religions are merely the formula enabling that invitation to be made. It could be a form of words, a style of dancing, drum rhythms specific to an individual demon, even some revolting concoction consumed as food. Asia has all of these and in its SouthEast all of them are celebrated at the same time.

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    Ignorant types who deny God's existence and claim there's nothing historical in The New Testament often ask me, “If demon possession is a thing and can be remedied through prayer, why not pray for all demons to be evacuated from all humans?” That would deny faith. It's about as meaningful as claiming God came back on the eighth day to create leprosy.

    Acts 12:23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

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  • Johny Joe Hold
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    I was delighted recently to read of a doctor's mission trip to SE Asia. He concluded most of the people there had never heard of Jesus. Using his medical terminology, he said sin was so bad there it is a pandemic.

    It is worse than covid, he said, because a pandemic passes. An eternity in fire does not.

    The people were dying from an eternal pandemic with no cure in sight In fact, most of them had never heard the name of Jesus before in their life

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by A. Toole View Post
    the sky lit up with animated points of light that explode into fantastical patterns
    Originally posted by Me View Post
    I believe they already have a product able to achieve that.
    Originally posted by D. Lukes View Post
    Amazonian shaman


    Bad enough for the rapscallion landing in a lake of fire—Jesus Christ's idea not mine—imagine if he was on The Ayahuasca Trip for his death experience? Ew. The sky was jagged elvenkind in every iridescent hue. The ground itself was serpents, the very air a swamp of leering faces. His innards were electric, the glands humming drop-dead gorgeous harmonies, the organs overclocking like crazy. Drop-dead, the salient adjective here becomes a verb, our shaman lands in the lake of fire in this wretched condition can you even imagine?

    "Death is too good for them," a sassy indictment of loons on social media, gets wings here: death too good, sir or madam? The management has an alternative plan for all our more enthusiastic clients: molten brimstone with everlasting cloying smoke on ayahuasca: enhanced agitation assured. It's so important to bring The Gospel Message to jungle dwellers and one way to achieve this is by removing the jungle. Although an expensive undertaking, it can be achieved without blanket destruction by collecting and sorting the trees and value adding. Mahogany furniture gets a good return, especially bespoke handmade items from skilled carpenters and joiners, in line with Christ's own profession.

    And especially at this time of year, durable furnishings and funds for Bibles to jungle shamans go hand in hand as we remember the baby who had to be born so that it could be killed to set us free forever.

    What shaman can say that?

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  • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
    I wish I could say to someone who has never heard of Jesus that things will be OK for them. That's not possible.
    This is the very reason we post online and campaign so hard outside Planned Parenthood imploring people - anyone out there at all - to come and be saved.

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  • Johny Joe Hold
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by Dennis Lukes View Post
    Sitting here laughing at the thought of some elderly Amazonian shaman who's never heard of Christianity lying down one night to sleep and waking up in the Lake of Fire, burning in agony with no idea why and no way to make it stop. When he's not blinded by sulfur he looks up and sees Jesus glaring down at him, arms crossed and shaking his head in disapproval. LOL
    That's what happens to aborted babies too
    It's sad so many live in a fantasy world where they think everything turns out hunky dory. The real world is God's world where dire consequences await. I wish I could say to someone who has never heard of Jesus that things will be OK for them. That's not possible. They are headed for the fire.

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  • Dennis Lukes
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Sitting here laughing at the thought of some elderly Amazonian shaman who's never heard of Christianity lying down one night to sleep and waking up in the Lake of Fire, burning in agony with no idea why and no way to make it stop. When he's not blinded by sulfur he looks up and sees Jesus glaring down at him, arms crossed and shaking his head in disapproval. LOL

    That's what happens to aborted babies too

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
    see the sky lit up with animated points of light that explode into fantastical patterns
    I believe they already have a product able to achieve that.

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  • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Would it be more persuasive to the savages to use technological wonders to shock and awe them out of their primitive beliefs? I mean, wouldn't they see the sky lit up with animated points of light that explode into fantastical patterns, and think: gee, our stone bowls and convoluted creation stories are kind of ridiculous aren't they, perhaps there's something else out there? I think they would find that convincing.

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  • Johny Joe Hold
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
    In future, any missionaries need to be brought to the chief's attention. Would this ability to identify the Christian message and report it constitute having heard The Gospel?
    I agree that it would be fairer to expose all heathens everywhere to The Gospel and make a record of when heathens had been warned about the consequences of their sins. Perhaps we could send stone monuments with missionaries saying THESE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD THE WARNING when they go into the field. After preaching, then, missionaries would merely chisel into the stone the date and no excuses would be valid after that.

    All of this is not required by God, however, and it would be extra work and expense for those of us in the faith. Heathens need to take responsibility for their eternity themselves.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    You've raised an interesting point. A mature savage, a moon worshipper say, hears The Gospel before dismembering the missionary. Others in the village, or town, or even city where the news could be broadcast using print media (for the literate) such as stone slabs or by interpretive dance, learn what happened.

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    This would be cast as the domestic culture having been preserved. In future, any missionaries need to be brought to the chief's attention. Would this ability to identify the Christian message and report it constitute having heard The Gospel?

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  • WWJDnow
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    I'm glad that persons who haven't heard the Gospel are going straight to Hell. They are unrepentant sinners who totally deserve eternal torture. Plus, who wants to be in Heaven with a bunch of illiterate savages?

    The same applies to unsaved children. I don't want Heaven to be filled with sinful, snot-nosed kids running around on the lawn of my Heavenly mansion.

    God is right to damn these people to Hell.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Will those the Gospel has Not Reached Go To Hell? You Betcha

    Originally Posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole
    Platt: ". . . We're fooling ourselves if we think we're passionate about giving to missions while we're ignoring 3 billion people who've never heard the Gospel."
    I'm not sure how starving missionaries would share with those billions, despite the fact of trillions [USD] having been lavished upon them over the last hundred years. And yet still there are places where Christians are strung up on sight, more or less, suggesting that they HAVE heard The Gospel in order to be able to identify a Christian in the first place. Otherwise it would be, “Crazy person come from land far away many seas tell strange tales,” rather than, “It's another Christian; string it up..” (or run it through) “..and dump..” (or eat) “..it like the last one.” Why would they do that?

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