[Brother Temperance]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

I interpetrate it in a way that it doesnt contradict with the commandments. This isnt about witches, this is about a war and thats not the same as murder. Where in that scripture do you find 'witches'?
And whats the 'dancing around hand in hand' stuff about? Where did you make that up?

So you admit that God allows us to kill in some circumstances? That "thou shalt not kill" is not an absolute? Why would we be allowed to kill Amalekites and not witches?
Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
This is not saying "witches go to Hell", although they certainly do, it is describing a specific line of action - allowing a witch to live - and then prohibiting it. If we cannot allow a witch to live, what options are we left with?
Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
How can you interpret this other than saying that witches and wizards must be put to death?

Ha, it isnt about my word, it is about how you read god's.

I'm already capable of reading God's word in the first place, thank you very much.

Nope, I think you make him do that by seeing the texts wrong. You are simply discarding the commandments.

No, we follow the commandments, and so we do not prohibit murder. You are simply discarding the 99% of the Bible that isn't the commandments.

Killing because of a wrong vieuw of gods word isnt justified. Then its not gods word anymore, its merely your mind that thinks it is.

And that's why we only kill because of a correct view of God's word.

He doesnt. Why do you make him contradict himself?

No. He does very clearly command capital punishment.
Leviticus 24:16
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Did god tell you to ignore certain parts of the bible? No, why are you doing that then? If he speaks about wars it isnt murder, but if he speaks about punishment it would be in your interpertation.
Maybe we are talking about different things. If you think of the wars and rightfull defence i can understand your point.

Why are you ignoring certain parts of the Bible. While I am glad that you can at least admit that GOD commanding us to kill small children in war is not murder, how can you deny that The Lord commands capital punishment? Let me run through a few of those scriptures again:

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 24:16
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Deuteronomy 21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Did he give you a direct command? No, and do you have scripture? Then show me, and show me that it can only be what you think it means.

See above. How can you deny what's right in front of your face?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

So if execution is murder..
Then WHY does God command some people to be executed?

He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.
Exodus 21:12

And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
Exodus 21:15

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
Exodus 21:17

Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
Exodus 22:19

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones.
And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.
Leviticus 24:23

And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
Numbers 15:35-36

And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die;
Because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 13:10

Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman,
And shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Deuteronomy 17:5

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you;
And all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Deuteronomy 21:20-21



Face it: your interpretation of "thou shalt not kill" creates a gaping contradiction in the Bible a mile wide!
And if execution was murder, then according to your logic, God would command EVERYONE dead:

And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Exodus 21:23-25

And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.
Deuteronomy 19:21

Your intepretation is, simply put, laughable.
And not a single person who've actually studied the Bible would agree with it.

[Lord Lucifer]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

If this is so they should scratch the commandment.

But this discussion is going nowhere, you have your oppinion, I have mine.

Can we get back to the toppic now?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

If this is so they should scratch the commandment.

But this discussion is going nowhere, you have your oppinion, I have mine.

How daft can someone be??
It is only your INTERPRETATION that "thou shalt not kill" equals "thou shalt not execute" that needs to get scratched.
It is only your idea that execution = murder that needs to get scratched.

WITHOUT THAT INTERPRETATION; there is no contradiciton whatsoever.
With it however, the contradiction would be in the Bible, and God and His Word simply doesn't contradict itself.

This is not about opinon, it is about the UNDENIABLE truth, the truth as to what the Holy Bible says:
And you obviously have no idea whatsoever.
You seem to only know ONE commandment, and your interpretation of it contradicts about half the Old Testament.

Either the OT is contradictonary, or you are.. And God doesn't contradict Himself.
You however.. well..
You've really done a great job of proving yourself ignorant beyond belief.


How would you interpretate this?
And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death:
All the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

Is that not a DIRECT ORDER from God to execute someone?
And what about this?

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die:
So shalt thou put evil away from among you;

Is that not God telling us to execute people by stoning them?

Face it, you have no idea whatsoever what the Bible says.
You know nothing.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

If this is so they should scratch the commandment.

Does this finally mean that you recognize that God commands us to execute certain people? About time!

But this discussion is going nowhere, you have your oppinion, I have mine.

No, we have God's Word, you have yours.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

If this is so they should scratch the commandment.

DID YOU JUST TELL US TO GET RID OF PART OF GOD'S WORD?

BLASPHEMER! FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART I REBUKE YOU! GET THEE HENCE AND DO NOT RETURN UNTIL YOU HAVE REPENTED OF YOUR SINS AND BECOME A CHRISTIAN!

[Lord Lucifer]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

BWAHAHAAHAHAAA!!

Well, thanks for the remark Brother, it really made my day!

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Christian music. Why so happy?

Well, thanks for the remark Brother, it really made my day!

See how the vile sinner doesn't even try to deny being a blasphemer but takes pleasure in people pointing it out!
I suppose this is also why he choose such a vile and blashemous name.