[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

First of all, the title is "On the Origin of Species". We don't talk about the "James Version" now do we?

And of course he has no proof. Needing gazillions of years to prove that "species or survive because they are better at it than other species" is circular logic at best.

"Yo, you survived?"
"Aye"
"Why, the other one got snuffed?"
"Coz I'm better at surviving, d'oh!"
"Why are you better?"
"Coz I'm better! If not, the other guy would have survived."

Great logic.

Secondly, why on earth do you want to compare a Holy Book with a book that has been refuted thousands of times?

Peppered moths in England have evolved over a short period of a time to adapt to the changing environment. Drug resistant bacteria are another example of evolution.

Also, I never said that On the Origin of Species is correct, I just said that it has more evidence backing it up than the Bible.

Thank you for correcting the title, but don't try to use that as a point against me, minor mistakes like that are completely irrelevant.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Darwin is merely a man who wrote a book. Jackie Collins is a woman who wrote a book. Not much of a difference, both are works of fiction.

God is not a man, He produced the Bible.

[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

This is no place to be comparing Darwin with the Work of the Lord.

I did not compare Darwin to the Bible. I pointed out that you (correct me if I am wrong) don't believe what is in Darwin's book. You don't hold it to be holy or valid. I am comparing your viewpoint on a book (I didn't have any particular reason for choosing that one) to most non-Christians viewpoint of the Bible.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Do you believe that what is written in Darwin's 'The Origin of Species' is true? He has more evidence than the Bible.

First of all, the title is "On the Origin of Species". We don't talk about the "James Version" now do we?

And of course he has no proof. Needing gazillions of years to prove that "species or survive because they are better at it than other species" is circular logic at best.

"Yo, you survived?"
"Aye"
"Why, the other one got snuffed?"
"Coz I'm better at surviving, d'oh!"
"Why are you better?"
"Coz I'm better! If not, the other guy would have survived."

Great logic.

Secondly, why on earth do you want to compare a Holy Book with a book that has been refuted thousands of times?

[Nobar King]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

This is no place to be comparing Darwin with the Work of the Lord.

[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

It is obvious from all your posts that you have never read the Bible. Then you come here and expect us to bend over backwards to explain the Book of God to you because you are too lazy to read it first yourself? We get a lot of this and we are are sick of it. Imagine if you will, a little child. This child will not lift a pinky. All this whinny baby does is incesstiantly ask "Why", ignoring or forgetting that last time he asked and it was explained.

Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little babies, want to be the center of the universe and have us answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.

I will just take that as a no, you aren't going to refute my statement.

You assume that I have never read the bible, and although I haven't read it cover to cover, I have studied it.

What I am asking for is quite simply: What convinced you that the Bible is the word of God?

Anyone can write a book. It takes a little talent to convince people it is a holy book. It takes a lot of talent to convince people that it is The Holy Book. I am still not convinced that the Bible is a holy book. You tell me to read the bible, and expect it to explain everything, including its own veracity. King James could have easily created his own Bible to suit his own goals, at the time, very few people actually knew anything about the Bible, leaving it wide open for him to do as he pleased.

Do you believe that what is written in Darwin's 'The Origin of Species' is true? He has more evidence than the Bible.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

The impression that I am getting is that nobody here has sufficient evidence to conclusively prove that what they preach is real. Is anyone going to refute that?

I am not trying to troll, I am trying to understand what motivates you.

It is obvious from all your posts that you have never read the Bible. Then you come here and expect us to bend over backwards to explain the Book of God to you because you are too lazy to read it first yourself? We get a lot of this and we are are sick of it. Imagine if you will, a little child. This child will not lift a pinky. All this whinny baby does is incesstiantly ask "Why", ignoring or forgetting that last time he asked and it was explained.

Why do these idiots come on a CHRISTAN website, refuse the read the FAQs and wonder why we could care less about them. They simply fail to realize........ wait for it........ they have demonstrated they could care less about us and like little babies, want to be the center of the universe and have us answer a question when we know them from, well, Adam.

[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

The impression that I am getting is that nobody here has sufficient evidence to conclusively prove that what they preach is real. Is anyone going to refute that?

I am not trying to troll, I am trying to understand what motivates you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Now why would you enjoy laughing at someone in 'hell'...please explain Sir?

Please read THIS sermon and I'll pray that the Holy Spirit fills you.

[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Well enjoy hell then. The Bible tells us that we will be able to hear your screams and watch you being tortured as we sit up in Heaven with Jesus and laugh.

Enjoy your time in existence as well then, however short or long that may be.

I should add, that I think you misinterpreted one of my earlier comments, about being fooled into believing nonsense, I was not saying that Christianity is nonsense, I was using future tense, indicating that someone who believes things so easily is at risk for falling for other things, that aren't so beneficial.

[agnostic calf]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Now why would you enjoy laughing at someone in 'hell'...please explain Sir?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

I am not a false Christian, I am not Christian at all. The only thing that I can conclusively prove is that I am here. I am pretty well convinced that the rest of you, and the world we live on exists as well. Beyond that, there isn't much, so while you worry about getting into heaven, I will continue to do the best I can with what I know I have.

Well enjoy hell then. The Bible tells us that we will be able to hear your screams and watch you being tortured as we sit up in Heaven with Jesus and laugh.

"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision." Psalm 2:4

Luke 16:20 "And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."

[Reykjavik]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

We couldn't care less about your unsaved opinions, friend. We care about God's opinions, and He says that our good works "are as filthy rags" in His loving eyes. I suppose you're another one of these false Christians who imagine that Jesus is some kind of limp-wristed hippie who just expects everyone to "be nice" and "do their best" and then everyone gets into Heaven, huh?

Well you couldn't be more wrong.

I am not a false Christian, I am not Christian at all. The only thing that I can conclusively prove is that I am here. I am pretty well convinced that the rest of you, and the world we live on exists as well. Beyond that, there isn't much, so while you worry about getting into heaven, I will continue to do the best I can with what I know I have.

[agnostic calf]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Your racism suprises me..abo? because im Australian? Aussie will suffice

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

Actions are more important than beliefs, in my opinion.

We couldn't care less about your unsaved opinions, friend. We care about God's opinions, and He says that our good works "are as filthy rags" in His loving eyes. I suppose you're another one of these false Christians who imagine that Jesus is some kind of limp-wristed hippie who just expects everyone to "be nice" and "do their best" and then everyone gets into Heaven, huh?

Well you couldn't be more wrong.