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  • Brother Temperance
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by minister noddy View Post
    Are you from Australia, Guy? I'm American and here, the descendant of the Church of England is the Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States. We are a member of the world-wide Anglican Communion of Churches, originally descended from the Church of England. In Australia, the Anglican Church is not called Episcopal, it's called Anglican. The same is true in Canada and a number of other countries.

    But they are all mainstream apostolic churches...
    You spelt "apostate" wrong.

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  • SalvationSeeker
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by minister noddy View Post
    As I said before in another post somewhere, you and I simply don't agree on any of it, Mr Seeker.
    Opinon has nothing to do with it.
    Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    Matthew 24:35

    Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
    Mark 13:31

    Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
    Luke 21:33

    You blaspheme GOD by believing He cannot preserve His Holy Word!
    Now zip it you simple woman, before I assign you a bucketload of infraction points.

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  • Sister Noddy
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post

    Whenever you have the answers?
    Since you never have them, I'm surprised you ever speak up..

    Here's the real facts/answers:
    THE KJV1611 IS THE LITERAL WORD OF GOD. ALL OF IT.
    Case closed. Praise Jesus!

    And anyone who denies that we have the uncorrupted Word of God (ie the KJV1611) is a blasphemer.
    As I said before in another post somewhere, you and I simply don't agree on any of it, Mr Seeker.

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  • SalvationSeeker
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by minister noddy View Post
    No ...

    I am not claiming to have read the original Hebrew and Greek versions of the scriptures ...

    In my posts above I was answering questions by Ninja and Guy ... do you want to confuse them, Mr Salvation?

    There are two major kinds of Christians in the world: fundamentalist evangelical and mainstream apostolic ...

    ... they are so different that they no longer seem like the same religion ...

    Whichever kind of Christianity people choose depends upon the kind of faith and practice that appeals to them emotionally ...

    Some people are confused ... when I see this sort of confusion I sometimes try to explain the differences, whenever I know the answers ...

    Whenever you have the answers?
    Since you never have them, I'm surprised you ever speak up..

    Here's the real facts/answers:
    THE KJV1611 IS THE LITERAL WORD OF GOD. ALL OF IT.
    Case closed. Praise Jesus!

    And anyone who denies that we have the uncorrupted Word of God (ie the KJV1611) is a blasphemer.
    Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 08-09-2007, 09:54 PM.

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  • Sister Noddy
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post

    Are you, who doesn't know what Adversary is in hebrew, really claiming to read the scriptures in hebrew (or even greek)??


    The KJV1611 is the literal Word of God!
    The original hebrew scriptures have been lost, and the newer ones are all corrupted. Same with the greek NT.
    That's why God gave us the KJV1611 so that we would once again, have the perfect word of God.
    Praise Jesus!
    No ...

    I am not claiming to have read the original Hebrew and Greek versions of the scriptures ...

    In my posts above I was answering questions by Ninja and Guy ... do you want to confuse them, Mr Salvation?

    There are two major kinds of Christians in the world: fundamentalist evangelical and mainstream apostolic ...

    ... they are so different that they no longer seem like the same religion ...

    Whichever kind of Christianity people choose depends upon the kind of faith and practice that appeals to them emotionally ...

    Some people are confused ... when I see this sort of confusion I sometimes try to explain the differences, whenever I know the answers ...

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  • SalvationSeeker
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by minister noddy View Post
    Only evangelical fundamentalists (such as the Baptists) follow the Bible literally word-for-word; in English, disregarding that the scriptures were originally in the Hebraic and Greek languages, and disregarding the hundreds of translations over a thousand years or so ...
    Are you, who doesn't know what Adversary is in hebrew, really claiming to read the scriptures in hebrew (or even greek)??


    The KJV1611 is the literal Word of God!
    The original hebrew scriptures have been lost, and the newer ones are all corrupted. Same with the greek NT.
    That's why God gave us the KJV1611 so that we would once again, have the perfect word of God.
    Praise Jesus!

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  • Sister Noddy
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by Guy View Post

    Noddy does E-pis-co-palians worship like Anglicans. I used to be a confirmed Anglican and I don't remember having an Episcopalian anything...
    Are you from Australia, Guy? I'm American ...

    ... and here, the descendant of the Church of England is the Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States ...

    ... we are a member of the world-wide Anglican Communion of Churches, originally descended from the Church of England. In Australia, the Anglican Church is not called Episcopal, it's called Anglican. The same is true in Canada and a number of other countries.

    But they are all mainstream apostolic churches, not literalist fundamentalist evangelical (like the Baptist)

    ... hoping this helps to explain, from noddy

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  • Brother Guy Bayard
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Noddy does E-pis-co-palians worship like Anglicans. I used to be a confirmed Anglican and I don't remember having an Episcopalian anything...

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  • Sister Noddy
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by Ninja View Post

    They do seem to follow their own bible literally, and in it's entirety. Isn't that what a Christian is supposed to do? Follow it directly and completely?
    No.

    Only evangelical fundamentalists (such as the Baptists) follow the Bible literally word-for-word; in English, disregarding that the scriptures were originally in the Hebraic and Greek languages, and disregarding the hundreds of translations over a thousand years or so ...

    Mainstream Christian denominations (such as the Anglican-Episcopal Church where I am a communion minister) understand that theological interpretation is necessary in order to account for the origin and meaning of the many books included in the Bible and their original message.

    The Bible is a collection of historical chronologies, poetry, metaphor, letters to various ancient churches by assorted authors (The Book of Revelation is a prime example) and so on ...

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  • Ninja
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    They do seem to follow their own bible literally, and in it's entirety. Isn't that what a Christian is supposed to do? Follow it directly and completely?

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  • Brother Guy Bayard
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Threads like this are the reason I keep coming back for more. Joh - please please please don't give up yet. This is far too entertaining.
    While you're at it, would you mind giving those of us who are interested a snippet of personal information, such as A/S/L, because I have trouble convincing my friends that retardeds like you actually exist. You think we can't possibly be real Christians? We're even then, because I think you can't possibly be that stupid........
    Your turn.....
    Last edited by Brother Guy Bayard; 08-09-2007, 06:14 PM.

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  • Brother Temperance
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by vestal_mastecation View Post
    The problem is how you define 'Christian'. If a Christian is someone who lives his or her life believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs, then the TC are Christians. However by this definition; Satanists, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Voodoo Priests, Charlie Manson's sad lot and many other groups are also Christians, as their religious traditions are based on believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs - even though for groups like Satanism many of those beliefs are the result of 'renouncing' Christianity or the complete antithesis of the beliefs held by more orthodox Christian groups.

    Are you a retarded? If you follow all Christ's commands 100%, you are a Christian; if not, then:
    James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    As an example, True Paganism is not Satanic because it has nothing to do with Christianity or the bible, the source of all the original ideas about the Devil.

    Ok, you are a retarded. If there were such a thing as "true paganism", it'd be Satanic because it has nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible, but would be an invention of Satan, who is the source of all the original ideas about the Devil.

    As with Judaism and Islam, there are also many people who identify as 'ethnic' Christians, that they are Christian from being born into a Christian family.
    Are there? Do they seriously think their ethnicity will save them from eternal Hellfire?

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  • SalvationSeeker
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by Joh View Post
    You dumb cracker! you don't even know the bible. We are not under the law moron.
    True, but you obviously have no idea what not being under the law means.

    What then?
    Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
    Romans 6:15

    So there is still sin! And just what is sin?
    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
    For sin is the transgression of the law.
    1 John 3:4

    We are not under the law, but that is because the law, part of the Word, which is Jesus (John 1:1-14), is in our hearts! (Hebrews 8:10)
    That's how we are sinfree once we are Saved, Jesus in our hearts and keep us from sinning! (1 John 3:6)

    This does NOT mean that we are not to obey the law, but that Salvation is not of the works of the law, as the jews believed, but by Jesus Christ!
    If one doesn't follow the law (which include killing witches & homers) he is not justified with God, because then he disobey the law, which is sin:
    And as such Jesus is not in his heart, for we believers CANNOT sin! (1 John 3:9)

    For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
    Romans 2:13

    And what did Jesus say?
    And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
    He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
    Luke 10:25-26


    And just where do you think "the ten commandments" are from, if not the law?
    So you're just as uneducated as "unsaved and loving it" is. Don't get any ideas.


    To sum it up:
    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
    I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    Matthew 5:17

    Jesus did not come to destroy the law!
    But to make it unbreakable for the believer, to make it perfect:
    And to establish the new covenant according to the prophecy in Jeremiah 31:31-33!
    (This prophecy is even quoted in Hebrews 8:8-10)


    Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
    Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt;
    Which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
    But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
    After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts;
    And will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Jeremiah 31:31-33

    The law will not be removed until all is fulfilled, and that doesn't happen until Revelation 21.
    So you need to read the Holy Word more, and stop pretending to be a Christian.
    Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 08-09-2007, 12:11 PM.

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  • vestal_mastecation
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    The problem is how you define 'Christian'. If a Christian is someone who lives his or her life believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs, then the TC are Christians. However by this definition; Satanists, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Voodoo Priests, Charlie Manson's sad lot and many other groups are also Christians, as their religious traditions are based on believing in the bible, Christian practices and beliefs - even though for groups like Satanism many of those beliefs are the result of 'renouncing' Christianity or the complete antithesis of the beliefs held by more orthodox Christian groups.

    As an example, True Paganism is not Satanic because it has nothing to do with Christianity or the bible, the source of all the original ideas about the Devil.

    As with Judaism and Islam, there are also many people who identify as 'ethnic' Christians, that they are Christian from being born into a Christian family.


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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Re: Please stop pretending to be christians.

    Originally posted by Joh View Post
    You dumb cracker! you don't even know the bible. We are not under the law moron.
    You foolish hell bound man. Listen to what Jesus has to say about this;
    Matt. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    That is Jesus Himself talking. The Law is His law.

    Now at some point Joh do you want to open The Bible and start reading instead spew off your own personal opinions and pretending they are Gods.

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