[SalvationSeeker]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Okay, I understand it now, and I will do that.

Well, praise the LORD if you are telling the truth!
Actually, praise HIM in either case.. But may He damn you if you lie!
Praise Jesus!

[Sister Noddy]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

The Word of God teaches completely otherwise! ...

... No, you should put your faith in God, and in God ALONE! Stop putting your faith in MAN!

Okay, I understand it now, and I will do that.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Our Church officially agrees with this, for all who proclaim they are Christian, whether or not they have followed Christ's commands faithfully.

The Word of God teaches completely otherwise!
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
But he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 21:7

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected:
Hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 2:3-5

Do I personally agree with this? Well I should have to have faith that it's true, and hope for the best ...

No, you should put your faith in God, and in God ALONE! Stop putting your faith in MAN!
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.
Psalm 118:8-9

[Sister Noddy]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Do you believe that Christians who follow Christ's commands faithfully will go to Heaven? ...

Our Church officially agrees with this, for all who proclaim they are Christian, whether or not they have followed Christ's commands faithfully.

(in other words, if they say so that's good enough for our church, and their own private relationship with God and Christ is between them and God)

Episcopal Book of Common Prayer:
Commendation at the Time of Death

Let us pray.

Depart, O Christian soul, out of this world;
In the Name of God the Father Almighty who created you;
In the Name of Jesus Christ who redeemed you;
In the Name of the Holy Spirit who sanctifies you.
May your rest be this day in peace,
and your dwelling place in the Paraadise of God.

Do I personally agree with this? Well I should have to have faith that it's true, and hope for the best ...

[Unsaved and Loving It]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

None of the Above. If im sent down there I'll Turn tword the devel and Charge him and insight others to join me in fighting him and his demons

You can hardly spell right. I hate to turn again a fellow "heathen", but I wouldn't be following you. Normally those who spell badly are either brain-dead or mindless brutes. Somehow, I sense the former about you. Challenging the supposed source of all evil and hatred is a good goal, but when you have an incompetent leader... Well, if I end up there, I'll likely be one of those ones sitting back and laughing like a mad man as you try and challenge a creature people would've tried for millions of years to defeat.

I suppose even Hell can have it's entertaining moments.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

I wrote ...


But it's not up to me to agree they are going to hell.

Yes, even if the fate of idol worshippers is (or seems to be) clearly stated in the scriptures, it would still be up to God to decide, and not up to me.

This goes for other sins too, it is always up to God to judge.

Do you believe that Christians who follow Christ's commands faithfully will go to Heaven? Because if so, you're making a judgement.

[Sister Noddy]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

So you agree that all Popish Mary-Worshippers are going straight to the Lake of Fire for worshipping graven images?

I wrote ...

... we don't believe the real Christ is in there, or that the wafer is the transubstantiated Jesus, now that's outright idol worship, worship of a graven image ...

But it's not up to me to agree they are going to hell.

Yes, even if the fate of idol worshippers is (or seems to be) clearly stated in the scriptures, it would still be up to God to decide, and not up to me.

This goes for other sins too, it is always up to God to judge.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

It certainly is that, Sister Thumper!

Remember, the Episcopal Church USA is NOT Roman Catholic ... we disagree with much of the Pope's doctrine, and use of the monstrance is one example ...

Anyway we don't believe the real Christ is in there, or that the wafer is the transubstantiated Jesus ... now that's outright idol worship, worship of a graven image!

So you agree that all Popish Mary-Worshippers are going straight to the Lake of Fire for worshipping graven images?

[Sister Noddy]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Monstrosity is more like it. GOD that's Gawdy!

It certainly is that, Sister Thumper!

Remember, the Episcopal Church USA is NOT Roman Catholic ... we disagree with much of the Pope's doctrine, and use of the monstrance is one example ...

Anyway we don't believe the real Christ is in there, or that the wafer is the transubstantiated Jesus ... now that's outright idol worship, worship of a graven image!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Actually, SS, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

While yes, we are to love God first (above familiy and friends), we are indeed commanded - in many, many places (some of which to follow) to love all Children of God - wayward or not.

1John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and ahateth his bbrother, he is a cliar: for he that loveth not his dbrother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not eseen?

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye alove one another, as I have bloved you.

Mark 12:30-31
30 And thou shalt alove the Lord thy God with all thy bheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy cstrength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luke 6:27 ¶ But I say unto you which hear, aLove your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
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That's pretty black and white. If you read around those scriptures for context, you'll find it's fairly direct in it's meaning (quotes from KJV).

As far as Religion, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am quite conservative in my philosophies.

Aww, how cute, it's trying to proselytize.

Just a hint, Arctic, proselytizing your fluffy bunny version of xtianity isn't going to work out for you here, not on these landover xtians nor on heathens like myself.

Why? Because the landoverites follow the real bible and are able to verify that you are not in fact following your religion the way it was originally intended to be followed. And I, obviously, am no xtian, but I do know the real bible enough to know that you are not following it the way it was originally meant to be followed. Not that I agree with following that horrible book, I think it's one of the most horrible things ever written from the words of MAN, but it's amazing how many xtians do not actually know the text which their religion is meant to be based on.

*Edit - Just noticed you're a mormon.
Well, proselytizing your fluffy bunny version of the abrahamic deity is still not going to work out for you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Oh, really? Here, the Romanists openly admit to worshiping the death cookie. Which part of "Worship of the Eucharist" do you not understand?

Do you know what this device is used for?

Little known fact; that device was originally designed to encourage joos to accept Christ more rapidly during the Inquisition. It worked so well that the roman pope started carrying one around threatening people with it. Sharp golden spikes up the sodomy chute is a technique learned directly from satan.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Eghhh, I believe that whoever invented that monstrous redefined the definition of 'tacky'.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Oh I know what this is and what it's used for, it's called a monstrance, and the pope holds it up high so people can see the wafer that becomes Jesus in the middle.

We don't use the monstrance in my church.

Monstrosity is more like it. GOD that's Gawdy!

[Sister Noddy]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

Oh, really? Here, the Romanists openly admit to worshiping the death cookie. Which part of "Worship of the Eucharist" do you not understand?

Do you know what this device is used for?

Oh I know what this is and what it's used for, it's called a monstrance, and the pope holds it up high so people can see the wafer that becomes Jesus in the middle.

We don't use the monstrance in my church.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: How will the unsaved react to being tossed into the Lake of F

...nor do Roman Catholics worship a wafer.

Oh, really? Here, the Romanists openly admit to worshiping the death cookie. Which part of "Worship of the Eucharist" do you not understand?

Do you know what this device is used for?