[Pastor Ezekiel]

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How else do you expect to bring people closer to Jesus?

Read THIS.


How Do People Get Saved if They Are Not Allowed to Attend Church?

It never ceases to amaze us the number of so-called "Christians" ask us this question. If they would only blow the dust off of their Bibles and put their noses into the 16th Chapter of Mark, they would find that Jesus commands us to evangelize the world! He didn't say, "find a comfortable pew each Sunday morning and cross your fingers in hopes that some unsaved piece of human refuse will walk through the doors of your church." No, he said, ""Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel." That word, "go" there is a verb. And for those of you illiterate, misguided Christians who allow unsaved people through the doors of your church each Sunday morning, a verb is an "action word," and "go" means "GO!" as in "leave," or "SCRAM!" It doesn't mean, sit on your hiney! The only place for evangelism is outside the confines of the Lord's four-walled holy dwelling place. God's home is a place for True Christians™ to fellowship. Allowing an unsaved person into church is like Rush Limbaugh inviting Hillary Clinton to a meeting of Republicans on how to defeat the Democrats in 2012. It's something you JUST DON'T DO! PERIOD!

The Holy Word of God is cram full of scripture that warns us to stay clear of unsaved scum like you!

[BelieverInGod]

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It's not the ""short of the glory of God" part that implies we are sinners. It's the "all have sinned" part. Just like if you murder you are a murderer, if you lie you are a lier, etc. You are right the meaning is pretty plain. Are you trying to imply that you have never sinned?

Sheesh, if God can forgive me and wipe the slate clean, why can't you? All have sinned at some point in their lives, then us True Christians(TM) get baptized and become part of the body of Christ. Or are you saying that Jesus was a sinner as well?

1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Romans 6:6-8 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

If you are convinced that you are still a sinner, then you aren't saved. It's as simple as that.

Oh and I love these infractions claiming that I am flaming when I have done nothing but simply ask legitimate questions both a believer and unbeliever would ask. How else do you expect to bring people closer to Jesus?

Well maybe you should learn from the infractions? There are rules on this board.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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It's not the ""short of the glory of God" part that implies we are sinners. It's the "all have sinned" part. Just like if you murder you are a murderer, if you lie you are a lier, etc. You are right the meaning is pretty plain. Are you trying to imply that you have never sinned?

You're just plain ornery! it is the "that implies we are sinners." We were sinners, but now we are Saved™ and thus no longer sinners - whom God hates!

How else do you expect to bring people closer to Jesus?

I suppose it would be too much to ask that (a) you read a Bible first and (b) you rid yourself of these "fluffy-bunny" ideas that crept into the World after the Downgrade Controversy?

[its_faith]

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These athiests must have lots of spare time to come up with more ways to mock God because we all know idle hands are the devils workshop.

[gurgle]

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Oh goody! We have ourselves a biblical scholar who goes around quoting Ghandi in our midst.



Bzzztt. The sacrifice of animals was already abolished in

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.



I do love my enemies enough to try to save them. As Paul says,

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

It's too bad you sit on the sidelines and tolerate their sins.




Keep reading in John to the very next verses.

John 3:18-20 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.




Nice cherrypicking. That's prior to Salvation. Paul goes on to say in Romans 3 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Read this as well.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.



Among His own people. In the very next chapter Jesus says.

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:


He's clearly saying he didn't come for people like the Samaritan. He was only there for his own.



I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. He is addressing the woman by saying that again.. He is not there for her.



No, she is begging Jesus to give her a crumb of His miracles despite the fact He already told her no.

Do the mental gymnastics you have to do to come up with this claptrap hurt your brain or are you used to it?



I am unaware of the Book of Matther. If you meant Matthew 4, it only goes up to verse 25. Is it fun to make up scriptures?



Here's who the brother is.

Matthew 12:47-50 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.



Again, I do love my enemies enough to attempt to save them. Is it loving to sit and watch a building burn or is it more loving to warn the person that the flames are going to engulf them?

What, you think we're too mean?

Hebrews 12:5-8 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Thank you for finally directly addressing my questions. It's sad that I had to mispell and misquote in order to get a straight answer after labeling it correctly twice. But still I appreciate it nonetheless.

Oh and why change my SN? How mature is that? You claim that I am the mocker and false sayer yet I have not quoted one thing that did not come directly from the scripture itself. And approached it with an attitude for a better understanding. All you have done is teach with mockery and self-righteousness.

Yes it is loving to warn someone of the flames that will engulf them but is it not more loving to show and tell them how prevent the flame from even starting. Not stand there and mock them because of the impending flame.....

You stand there talking as if you are better than the sinner. Where is the humility? To act as if you are better than anyone is nothing more than a stumbling block. It is bad enough that the lost are blind to God's word, but through hate you misrepresent the purpose of Jesus's sacrifice, which was to INVITE sinners to accept him. Not shun them.

If Jesus had taken your attitude toward sinners there would have been no sacrifice. Can you deny that? Actually take a look over what I said from the begginning. I've had yet to have all my questions from the scripture answered.

[BelieverInGod]

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Not getting the answers you want is not the same as not getting answers.

People on here have answered your questions, you are just being blind and bullheaded about it because it's not the "OMG YOUR RIGHT" that you want.

You are taking Bible quotes out of context, would you like it if we started quote-mining what you have to say and making it look like you're saying something else?

[Levi Jones]

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You stand there talking as if you are better than the sinner. Where is the humility? To act as if you are better than anyone is nothing more than a stumbling block. It is bad enough that the lost are blind to God's word, but through hate you misrepresent the purpose of Jesus's sacrifice, which was to INVITE sinners to accept him. Not shun them.

Friend, you have some odd beliefs about what the Bible actually says.

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

If Jesus had taken your attitude toward sinners there would have been no sacrifice.

God is going to save those whom He is going to save. It's not up to me.


Romans 9:15-18 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

[gurgle]

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I should have known it when it was impossible for you to prove Jesus hated anybody.....

[gurgle]

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Hey why did you erase my last message?

Either way, I would use a different picture, the real Levi Jones could have grounds for a defamation lawsuit against you.

[Levi Jones]

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Hey why did you erase my last message?

Perhaps you were bearing false witness?

Every word I have quoted for you comes directly from the Bible. If you are having trouble wrapping your head around the Word of God, I would take it up with Him.

[Levi Jones]

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I should have known it when it was impossible for you to prove Jesus hated anybody.....

Since you have an aversion to the Old Testament, (Even though God and Jesus are one)

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Believe me, pal. No one takes Jesus' temporary sacrifice more seriously than I do. Maybe you could try actually reading what the Bible says instead of being spoon fed by false Christian ministers.

[Lisa H]

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I should have known it when it was impossible for you to prove Jesus hated anybody.....

Jesus hated sinners who did not turn to the Lord.

Matthew 10
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Do you want to be hated by the Lord and spend eternity in hell

[gurgle]

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Since you have an aversion to the Old Testament, (Even though God and Jesus are one)

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Believe me, pal. No one takes Jesus' temporary sacrifice more seriously than I do. Maybe you could try actually reading what the Bible says instead of being spoon fed by false Christian ministers.

So when he said "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" He was actually talking to himself? Now you trying to say Jesus was a Schizo too? Real nice....

[Levi Jones]

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So when he said "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" He was actually talking to himself? Now you trying to say Jesus was a Schizo too? Real nice....

Wow, you really haven't ever bothered to read the Bible have you?

John 10:29-31 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I and my Father are one.
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Keep it up, pal. You're going to be on the receiving end of the Holy Banhammer of Antioch if you continue the ad hominem attacks instead of focusing on what the Bible says.

[gurgle]

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Wow, you really haven't ever bothered to read the Bible have you?

John 10:29-31 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I and my Father are one.
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Keep it up, pal. You're going to be on the receiving end of the Holy Banhammer of Antioch if you continue the ad hominem attacks instead of focusing on what the Bible says.

Matthew 27:46 (King James Version)


46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?