[Nobar King]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

Salvation by sincerity and works (3:135; 7:8-9; 21:47; 49:14; 66:8-9).

The Catholics should be happy with this one.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

The list of differences is very short and trivial http://carm.org/differences-between-bible-and-quran

Trivial, huh?

Jesus is God in flesh / Jesus is not God
Jesus was crucified / Jesus was not Crucified
Jesus rose from the dead / Jesus did not rise from the dead
Jesus was the Son of God / Jesus was not the Son of God

That's trivial?! Taken together, Jesus' divinity, death, and Resurrection make up the crux (no pun intended) of our faith. Any belief system that denies them isn't just unChristian — it's the direct opposite of Christianity! It is of the Devil. The Bible is crystal clear about what happens to "prophets" who deny Christ.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.

Swift destruction — nothing trivial about that.

[waywardJim]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

The list of differences is very short and trivial http://carm.org/differences-between-bible-and-quran

[Didymus Much]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

They both just seem to be a system of beliefs that are engineered to create unity within a group.

I think the word you're looking for is conformity. Here's an interesting frightening video (pay extra attention to the points raised at 4:00 and 6:30):

[James Dewitt]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

I think I have been touched by His Noodly Appendages. Thank you Brother Freddie!

Ramen

Well that's just great, here we are trying to bring the word of Salvation(TM) to the masses, and Pasta boy is pulling them to hell. Makes one wonder if Jo- Freddie really isn't the DEVIL

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

I think I have been touched by His Noodly Appendages. by my Catholic priest Thank you Brother Freddie!

Ramen

You clowns have your own forum, Perhaps you want to take it there?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

I think I have been touched by His Noodly Appendages. Thank you Brother Freddie!

Ramen

Enjoy hell, godmocker.

[gustos]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

You show promise, may I suggest you take a look at what I have posted in these topics:
The Holy Noodle
A Condensed History of the World
The Most High and Holy Prayer
Edd's Letters
and check out the links in my signature.

RAmen

I think I have been touched by His Noodly Appendages. Thank you Brother Freddie!

Ramen

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

Originally Posted by waywardJim
I have not read the Bible cover to cover but I have read for a few hours total from several different versions of the Bible and I have read the Qur'an online. Again not the whole thing. The whole time I was thinking, "Wow, this is just another version of the Bible".

My friend you seem a little confused and distracted

For the purpose of simplifying matters let us put this theological discussion into terminology that a non Christian / unsaved trash can easily relate to using the analogy of Pickup trucks.

For example:

The F250 is a mans pick-up. The original, the best, the most powerful, awe inspiring, reliable, comforting and driven by righteous True Christian Americans

The Tooyta Hi-lux is a prissy, girly, inferior, shallow and foreign imitation driven by tree hugging Obama lovers and America haters

I do hope that this clarifies matters for you

Warner S. Davidson

[TC Patriot]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

That baby raper Mo HAM Mad stole verses from the Bible to trick people into becoming Mudslimes. There are a few nice verses in the Koran BUT every verse in the Bible is positive and uplifting if you are a True Christian.

The Koran is proof of one thing. Even Satan can misquote scripture!

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

I have not read the Bible cover to cover but I have read for a few hours total from several different versions of the Bible and I have read the Qur'an online. Again not the whole thing. The whole time I was thinking, "Wow, this is just another version of the Bible".

Mr Jim, With due respect, if you have not read the two in their entirety you cannot give a truly informed decision. It is like baking a pie; reading only a 1/4 or third of the recipe will hardly give you a proper and correct result.

They both just seem to be a system of beliefs that are engineered to create unity within a group.

It is the same with secular society, is it not? Whether it be sports teams, book clubs or anything else of that ilk. The aim is to create unity within a like minded unit. Especially within sports, there are rules of the game; whether of play or consequences when rules of play are broken. If you are a soccer playing homer (for example) would it be the Referees fault for red carding you for YOU having broken the rules?

It would serve as an authority so that a punisher such as a judge would not be responsible for the punishment given and therefore could not be held accountable by the punished.

I don't know where you get that from, but God certainly takes responsibility for His reactions. People however have to be aware that their actions have consequences; whether positive or negative. People have to OWN what they have done. Why for example, would it be God's fault if someone flouted His laws? Is it the secular legal systems fault if someone robs a bank, simply because it is against the law to do so and there is a bank there to rob?

This would prevent the punished from resenting the punisher which would be essential in society. They both seem to be engineered to govern society even when a governor is not present which would be beneficial to the society.

The only reason people feel resentlement towards the punisher, is because they don't want to recognise that they themselves were the one initially in the wrong! Do you resent God, wayward Jim for the choices YOU have made in your life, where the outcome was not as you had wanted or had personally planned?

This seems all fine and good as long as the religious laws were similar to universal laws but when they are not then their is injustice. Also this is again all fine and good until societies meet. If the meeting societies differ in their religious beliefs then their is suffering. With todays globalization all societies have met and there are great differences so there is an ultimate suffering. Now that universal law in enforceable the world has outgrown religion and needs to forget about it.

Just where do you think society GOT the concept of laws from? If you note, a vast majority of secular laws are based on the laws sent down by God, via Moses and by Himself as Jesus.
The stupid sharia law stuff - workings of satan- came MANY millenia after Moses and HUNDREDS of years after Jesus! It is the mooslims that upset God's Perfect applecart!

The religious fear that without religion there would be a loss of morality. This is a short sighted belief. The loss of morality they fear is minuscule compared the the atrocities and suffering brought on by the ways in which the followers of religion twist even well intended religious beliefs.

Again, where did laws originally come from? GOD of the BIBLE. God IS our moral compass.

Again, same book, small twists, interpreted differently a long time ago.

It cannot be the same at all, given the fact that Sharia Law is completely different to God's law!

You yourself earliler spoke of a "universal standard" and there WAS that, until those sand nigra INVENTED their mohammad fellow to cause strife.

You just come across to me as one of those "finger-pointers"; one going out of their way to negate responsibility for their own actions and inventing what you deem is a viable "out" to suit your own agenda. If anything, there are more similarities with your and mooslim rhetoric, than there is with the Koran & The Bible.



YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

Well it points out the differences , but which is which?

Why don't you ask Jesus? I'm sure he'll tell you.

I have not read the Bible cover to cover but I have read for a few hours total from several different versions of the Bible and I have read the Qur'an online. Again not the whole thing. The whole time I was thinking, "Wow, this is just another version of the Bible".

It is true that Satan, when he dictated the Qur'an to Moe Hammad, stole from the Bible, but distorted it. That's Satan's way. He's kind of like a Japanese engineer--he can't create anything, but he's good at stealing American products and producing a cheap, low-quality copy.

They both just seem to be a system of beliefs that are engineered to create unity within a group.

Christianity is designed to save the souls of the people whose souls God wants to save. Islam is designed to kill everyone and mistreat women.

It would serve as an authority so that a punisher such as a judge would not be responsible for the punishment given and therefore could not be held accountable by the punished. This would prevent the punished from resenting the punisher which would be essential in society.

The blame rests with the sinner, not with the judge.

They both seem to be engineered to govern society even when a governor is not present which would be beneficial to the society.

The Bible anticipates that society will be governed. Remember that Jesus said, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's.... Matthew 22:21

This seems all fine and good as long as the religious laws were similar to universal laws but when they are not then their is injustice.

God's law is the only universal law.

Also this is again all fine and good until societies meet. If the meeting societies differ in their religious beliefs then their is suffering.

That's why God had Moses and David and the other early rulers of the Jewish people exterminate everyone who lived in the land of Israel, preventing the kind of agonizing wars against terror that we're fighting now because of Obama's failed policies. Another example of God's mercy!

With todays globalization all societies have met and there are great differences so there is an ultimate suffering.

Well, we True Christians™ plan to rapture out soon, so you won't have to worry about us much longer.

Now that universal law in enforceable the world has outgrown religion and needs to forget about it.

Universal law outside religion? Are you suggesting that a tin-pot dictatorship like Ghana should have an equal voice with the United States?

The religious fear that without religion there would be a loss of morality.

If you want to sin, that's between you and Jesus. However, if God destroys America because it is filled with sinners, just as he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, then it becomes my business. Hurricane Katrina was our wake-up call.

This is a short sighted belief. The loss of morality they fear is minuscule compared the the atrocities and suffering brought on by the ways in which the followers of religion twist even well intended religious beliefs.

I agree that the Catholics and the Muslims have been brutal, and the world would be better off if they were wiped from the face of the Earth. But they aren't Christians, so please don't blame us. As True Christians™, we follow Christ's law, and He told us to love our neighbors.

Again, same book, small twists, interpreted differently a long time ago.

Where in the Qur'an did you see the Song of Solomon?

[waywardJim]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

Freddie is cool. I wanna become a pirate too...

Just plug in your city and meetup with your local pirates. They are a wonderful bunch http://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords...tButton=Search

Also Free Thinkers http://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords...tButton=Search

Or try humanists, atheists, secularists or free thought societies. Just pick you term and find a group.

[waywardJim]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Is there a way to be a part of all of the thousands of religions out there so there won't be any possible way to go to hell?

Sure,,,,,, Oprah's Church is the one for you http://thinkpoint.wordpress.com/2008...ions-the-same/

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Whats the difference between the Bible & the Qur'an

Freddie is cool. I wanna become a pirate too...

Anyways, the bible doesn't seem more superior than the qu'ran to me. They are both fairy tales!

If I am not a muslim then according to the qu'ran I am screwed. If I am not a christian then according to the bible I am screwed. Is there a way to be a part of all of the thousands of religions out there so there won't be any possible way to go to hell?

You show promise, may I suggest you take a look at what I have posted in these topics:
The Holy Noodle
A Condensed History of the World
The Most High and Holy Prayer
Edd's Letters
and check out the links in my signature.

RAmen