[Sitromxe]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said: So you'd approve of Iraq or Vietnam launching an attack on the USA?

If I recall they already did attack the USA and the USA retaliated. As a result the attckers can't begin objecting to the USA's retaliation because they struck first which in turn caused said retaliation.

[Sitromxe]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said: Yes it is. I'm right and you're wrong, it's as simple as that."

Anyone can say that they have right of way. However, if you want anyone to respect that claim you need to specify why you are right and they are wrong.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said: "Do you think that a convicted murder electrocuting his judge and the entire jury is the same as them sending him to the chair?"

This isn't a right or wrong scenario.

Yes it is. I'm right and you're wrong, it's as simple as that.

It is the simple concept of 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.
If you attack someone you can count on them attacking you back.

So you'd approve of Iraq or Vietnam launching an attack on the USA?

Holding said attack against them for whatever reason is just an exercise in hypocrisy.

In some circumstances, not in others.

[John Creeser]

Re: Hostility?

We believe that your god doesn't exists, therefore we do not worship him. It is still a belief as it cannot be proved conclusively. However, God cannot be proved conclusively either, so we are in a stalemate and will remain that way until one side provides strong evidence for our hypothesis.
Our belief that god doesn't exists supports our refusal to follow that belief. So technically atheists do have a belief, even though most don't like to admit it.
.

This is where you are confused, we HAVE proof.

Behold!!

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hostility?

=Sitromxe;601534]

We believe that your god doesn't exists, therefore we do not worship him. It is still a belief as it cannot be proved conclusively. However, God cannot be proved conclusively either, so we are in a stalemate and will remain that way until one side provides strong evidence for our hypothesis.
Our belief that god doesn't exists supports our refusal to follow that belief. So technically atheists do have a belief, even though most don't like to admit it.

Our faith is in God, yours is in nothing. How can you believe in nothing? God created everything including you.

[Sitromxe]

Re: Hostility?

We believe that your god doesn't exists, therefore we do not worship him. It is still a belief as it cannot be proved conclusively. However, God cannot be proved conclusively either, so we are in a stalemate and will remain that way until one side provides strong evidence for our hypothesis.
Our belief that god doesn't exists supports our refusal to follow that belief. So technically atheists do have a belief, even though most don't like to admit it.


Brother temperance said: "Do you think that a convicted murder electrocuting his judge and the entire jury is the same as them sending him to the chair?"

This isn't a right or wrong scenario. It is the simple concept of 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.
If you attack someone you can count on them attacking you back. Holding said attack against them for whatever reason is just an exercise in hypocrisy.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said: "Really? All generalisations?"

All Christian fundamentalists are zealous bigots who are more interested in forcing their delusions on others then accepting reality.

Does that seem like a fair generalization to you? It certainly doesn't to me.


Bobby-Joe said: "Now friend,we TRUE Christians™ are quite knowledgeable of atheists. The very existence of atheism is an attack upon our religion since atheists have irrefutable, scientifically backed proof that God, at lest as Christians define Him, doesn't exist. Obviously that proof is a bunch of lies like dinosaur fossils but the fact that still insists on using there un-Christians facts show Atheists are out to destroy our faith."

Perhaps they are, but to be fair aren't you out to destroy their faiths? Can you really hold them accountable for doing something which you intended to do to them?

Christians are out to destroy an Atheist's faith? I always thought that Atheists did not believe in a Higher Power(God).

How can we destroy your faith if you don't have one? We spread the word of God, we how ever can not make you receive it. You can lead a horse to water, but you can not make him drink it!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hostility?

Bobby-Joe said: "Now friend,we TRUE Christians™ are quite knowledgeable of atheists. The very existence of atheism is an attack upon our religion since atheists have irrefutable, scientifically backed proof that God, at lest as Christians define Him, doesn't exist. Obviously that proof is a bunch of lies like dinosaur fossils but the fact that still insists on using there un-Christians facts show Atheists are out to destroy our faith."

Perhaps they are, but to be fair aren't you out to destroy their faiths? Can you really hold them accountable for doing something which you intended to do to them?

Yes! We're right and they're wrong. There is no moral equivalency here. Do you think that a convicted murder electrocuting his judge and the entire jury is the same as them sending him to the chair?

[Sitromxe]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said: "Really? All generalisations?"

All Christian fundamentalists are zealous bigots who are more interested in forcing their delusions on others then accepting reality.

Does that seem like a fair generalization to you? It certainly doesn't to me.


Bobby-Joe said: "Now friend,we TRUE Christians™ are quite knowledgeable of atheists. The very existence of atheism is an attack upon our religion since atheists have irrefutable, scientifically backed proof that God, at lest as Christians define Him, doesn't exist. Obviously that proof is a bunch of lies like dinosaur fossils but the fact that still insists on using there un-Christians facts show Atheists are out to destroy our faith."

Perhaps they are, but to be fair aren't you out to destroy their faiths? Can you really hold them accountable for doing something which you intended to do to them?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said:
"If there weren't any Muslims, liberals, atheists, Hindus, Catholics, queers, Anglicans or other enemies of God, then there wouldn't be any angry threads."

More variations would eventually arise from your unified world. Every person is different, there is no such thing as total uniformity among humans. We always differ slightly from one another, whether it be in how we look, how we think, how we act or even what we believe in. After all, how do you think there came to be such diversity in our civilization today?

SATAN, that's how. Well, Satan and God punishing us for the tower of Babel, which was probably originally inspired by Satan:

Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Generalizations are dangerous and unfair.

Really? All generalisations?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hostility?

Bobby Joe said:
"We are constantly being insulted by being called homophobes, racists, spiteful, boastful, intolerant, religious bigots, superficial, vengeful, paranoids, Luddites, sexists, petty, self deluded, sadists, arsonists, child abusers, kidnappers, vain, bear rapists, women beating, short sighted, merciless, willful polluters, ignorant, murderers, greedy and judgmental."

I am sure that most of those generalizations are misplaced. Generalizations are dangerous and unfair. An example of a generalization on Atheism is that 'we are always very aggressive', which is not always true.

Now friend,we TRUE Christians(tm) are quite knowledgeable of atheists. The very existence of atheism is an attack upon our religion since atheists have irrefutable, scientifically backed proof that God, at lest as Christians define Him, doesn't exist. Obviously that proof is a bunch of lies like dinosaur fossils but the fact that still insists on using there un-Christians facts show Atheists are out to destroy our faith.

[Sitromxe]

Re: Hostility?

Brother temperance said:
"If there weren't any Muslims, liberals, atheists, Hindus, Catholics, queers, Anglicans or other enemies of God, then there wouldn't be any angry threads."

More variations would eventually arise from your unified world. Every person is different, there is no such thing as total uniformity among humans. We always differ slightly from one another, whether it be in how we look, how we think, how we act or even what we believe in. After all, how do you think there came to be such diversity in our civilization today?

Bobby Joe said:
"We are constantly being insulted by being called homophobes, racists, spiteful, boastful, intolerant, religious bigots, superficial, vengeful, paranoids, Luddites, sexists, petty, self deluded, sadists, arsonists, child abusers, kidnappers, vain, bear rapists, women beating, short sighted, merciless, willful polluters, ignorant, murderers, greedy and judgmental."

I am sure that most of those generalizations are misplaced. Generalizations are dangerous and unfair. An example of a generalization on Atheism is that 'we are always very aggressive', which is not always true.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hostility?

@ Sitromxe

You are creating disagreement by thinking differently than we do. How do you expect us to not disagree with you if you insist on thinking differently than we do? If you cared about getting along with us you would concede to our way of thinking and leave behind your hatred of God and Christians.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hostility?

Thank you Bobby-Joe for letting me speak.
I have noticed that this site has a considerable amount of rather angry sounding threads. Could I ask why this is?

God tells us that is fine to be filled with righteous anger at reprobates, perverts, witches, atheists and the like. He wants them rebuked with the force of the Holy Spirit! Is that what you mean?

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

By the way, do you have your husband's permission to be posting here?

1 Timothy 2:11-15
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

[John Creeser]

Re: Hostility?

Besides the occasional threat of eternal torture then no, but I have been insulted multiple times. Such insults include: retard, demon, knuckle dragging abo or unsaved trash.

For the second time, I am not intolerant of Christians and not once have I gotten to anything even close to hate. Why do you keep accusing me of intolerance?
If it makes you feel better to say that everyone hates you then whatever, but if you sincerely believe that I am being intolerant then tell me in what way I am being intolerant so that I can resolve the issue.

It's rare that I've seen a post filled so many hateful words.