[One-eyed Jack]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Wait a prophet-pluckin' minute here!

I just read the last post in the thread, and I am shocked!

Are you saying that God made Pol Pot, Jeffrey Dahmer, Josef Stalin, Hillary Clinton, and Marty Feldman in His image?

Well, Marty Feldman, maybe. But those others are the product of the EVIL caused by mankind's willful fall from God's grace. It's like the miracle of atomic mutation: God made Adam perfect, but then Adam had to go and so a Snow-White with an accursed apple (probably a pomegranate, actually, given that your standard gravenstein does not grow well in Sumeria). After that mankind was perverted and warped by Original Sin, and became flawed.

And that is why you have zits in unsightly places, and why I have this terrible problem with warts on my tongue. We are blighted, blighted and debased by Original Sin.

~~ OEJ

[Pagan_Child]

Re: False religion.....i think not

ok from what i've read here i've learnt that:

jesus loved evil people
god doesn't love everyone
and that the only way to salvation is to become a christian.

ok how well do you guys know the bible and if you do how well do you know the book of genesis,the part where it ways god made man in his image,that is exactly the same in the torah(jewish bible) and to be a christian you must acknoledge the jewish sacred text,and the jewish texts says that the GODS made man and woman in THEIR own image.

am i wrong?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Does Jesus not forgive all?

Absolutely not. There is one unforgiveable sin.

Matthew 12:31-32
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Mark 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Luke 12:10
But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

If I may just clarify part of this for the foolish sinner, Pastor:
To gain any forgiveness at all from Jesus you must first REPENT of your sins - That is, you must regret them and stop doing them!
See, Jesus came to call sinners to repentance. NOT unconditional forgiveness!

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Hate the sin, Love the sinner.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Don't send things you love to hell.

Sinners send themselves to eternal hellfire. Not us. We offer to tell them about the Good News of Jesus. If they reject that Good News, then they have chosen hell.

Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

In fact, the Bible tells us that all liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Revelations 21:8

Does Jesus not forgive all?

Absolutely not. There is one unforgiveable sin.

Matthew 12:31-32
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Mark 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Luke 12:10
But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

[IbelieveIknowwhat?]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Hate the sin, Love the sinner.
Don't send things you love to hell.
Does Jesus not forgive all?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: False religion.....i think not

hey and christians dont hate? they seem to especially hate witches, and i thought that christians were supposed to love? did jesus not try to show his love to the most evil people? instead all christians ever seem to do with me is have a go at me. did i try to do anything to christians...?

Yeah, Jesus sure loved evil people...
That's why He has judged that every single one of them will burn in hell forever unless they STOP being evil people.

We're basically telling you the same thing:
Stop being a witch and become a True Christian.
OR
Burn forever in hell, as Jesus has decided that all unsaved shall. (John 3:16)

[WitchChristian?]

Re: False religion.....i think not

All you can do is show us your hatefulness

hey and christians dont hate? they seem to especially hate witches, and i thought that christians were supposed to love? did jesus not try to show his love to the most evil people? instead all christians ever seem to do with me is have a go at me. did i try to do anything to christians...?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: False religion.....i think not

its not in your version of the bible your version of the bible was written by a woman hating king,the version i'm talking about is in jewish mysticism books

You mean, books dreamt up by money-grubbing yids to flog overpriced water and magical bits of string? You're going to take them as a source over God's Word?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: False religion.....i think not

its not in your version of the bible your version of the bible was written by a woman hating king,the version i'm talking about is in jewish mysticism books

Name these books. I'll bet you've never even seen one.

[Pagan_Child]

Re: False religion.....i think not

its not in your version of the bible your version of the bible was written by a woman hating king,the version i'm talking about is in jewish mysticism books

[JennyD]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Pagan_Child, I like the way you think.

I cannot stand when people are all self rightous and can't wait to point out everything wrong in someone else life. Well, just remember that when you point the finger at someone else, there are three pointing back at you.

So says the woman in clown makeup who went out of her way to join a Christian church forum for the express purpose of attacking its peaceful membership and telling them the errors of their ways.

Wilt thou cast out the mote from thy brother's eye? Thou hypocrite! First remove the beam from thine own eye, then thou canst see clearly . . . yeah. If you wish to be taken seriously, remove the clown makeup while you're busy with that beam of yours.

see again a classic case of a christian not accepting any other way of life as valid, i know that hebrew bible/the torah is the originally version of the bible as you guys know it and in their version it said that man was made in the image of the gods but the christians obviously translated it to suit them, and that it didn't take seven days to make the earth it took millions of years and that there are 10 stages of being or manifestation.

Really? Do tell. Where do you see this in the Bible?

God says He created the universe in 6 days, and rested on the 7th. YOU say that "it took millions of years". Who do you think I will believe, YOU, someone who openly despises God and wants to turn me away from the One True Faith, or God Himself?

How many Jews have you spoken with who say that Christians have turned a slew of gods into One God? Jews worship One God, they just deny Jesus. And murdered Him. Etc.

Your fantasies are becoming more and more bizarre, missy. Time to get right with God, before you become the bug on the windshield of the bus of life. That squirt from the wipers will send you flowing straight into eternal torture for your insolence and disbelief, and your prayers to the "elements" will serve no purpose.

Why in the world would you think that praying to rocks and trees would accomplish anything? What miracles have your tree demons done for you? Have they created any universes? Have they temporarily sacrificed themselves to ensure your salvation?

[witchysnick]

Re: False religion.....i think not

You speak of the beauty of the world, but yet you've put 3-day-old road kill on your face and force us to look at it in your avatar. What will you goth kids come up with next?

road kill? What I have on my face is nothing more than makeup. Do you put on makeup before you go to church? It's the same thing!

[VictoryOS]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Pagan, they will only ever believe what they want to believe, and never anything else. I almost feel sorry for them because they are so close-minded they can't even see the beauty of the world right in front of them!

You speak of the beauty of the world, but yet you've put 3-day-old road kill on your face and force us to look at it in your avatar. What will you goth kids come up with next?

[Magnum Innominandum]

Re: False religion.....i think not

We were all sinners once, my dear douche-bag of the Devil. I am not better than you in any way. It is just that I do not worship sundry bugs slamming against the windscreen of the Lord's reality. To me, a deer or a kangaroo is just a giant bug. I wish them well in Heaven or Hell and go on my way.

Men, however, are different. Why would I not believe what you call the poop I spout out? It's there for me to see on the ledges of Teutonic toilets, is it not? I do not think that my belief or disbelief matters to it.

The possibility of salvation, extended to me by men whose very feces reflects the wholesome and muscular beauty of the Lord, is also extended to you.

This is Jesus' promise.

Sincerely,
Magna, née Magnus

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: False religion.....i think not

Friend,

Let me help you with your' post

Pagan, they will only ever believe what Jesus wants them to believe, and never anything else. I almost feel sorry for them because they are so close-minded they can't even see the beauty of the world right in front of them!

PRAISE! That's what it should read.