[JennyD]

Re: You know what

Wiccans worship the 4 forces of nature, stoners... I can't really say anything about them.

I am truly astounded by your brilliant rebuttal.

[Sionisx2]

Re: You know what

Did you even read the article you linked to? It said that the girl did NOT die as you think.

Please go read your own article.


Where do you see hatred? If the girl was a True Christian™, she would not have been killed unless God wanted her dead.


Sorry, I must have missed that. You sound awfully . . . "sensitive" and "dramatic" to be male, so I just assumed you were a flighty and illogical female.


Yet God created that "great deceiver", and God, knowing that they would believe the snake, put them together. Yet, you blame God's creation, the snake, for doing exactly what God knew it would do?


Now, if Adam and Eve were truly innocent when created, and not until they ate the fruit were they able to comprehend sin, then they could not have known it to be wrong, or sinful, to disobey God.

Therefore, they did not sin, as there was no intent. However, God, in His infinite wisdom, saw fit to cast them out for knowing what sin was, claiming they'd already DONE it!

Incidentally, could you show me where in Genesis the Bible refers to that snake in the garden of Eden as Lucifer? Thanks.


So, you say that God is not capable of preventing the Holocaust? Or perhaps that He just isn't paying attention?

I'm sorry, Sion, I can't believe that our just and loving, omniscient God is overpowered by the will of humans. God has it in His power the ability to stop all wars this instant. He has it in His power the ability to stop abortions, and make the next terrorist find Jesus instead of blowing up a bus station. He doesn't, because HE CHOOSES NOT TO.

An act of omission is still an act, as much as an act of commission. People die because it is God's Will that they die. Your refusal to accept this fact is indicative of your Liberal False Christian status, and a sinful blasphemy against God's power.

So I assume you are eagerly awaiting the destruction of San Francissyco and Jew York City, likewise cesspools of sin?

Really?

God says in His Word that He knows all and is all-powerful. He says that He creates both good and evil. YOU, however, claim that the free will of Hitler is more powerful than the will of God, and that Satan creates evil instead of God.

You deny God's Word with these blasphemies, and attempt to transform him into the fluffy-bunny hippy-happy "god" of stoners and Wiccans!

Wiccans worship the 4 forces of nature, stoners... I can't really say anything about them.

[JennyD]

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She obviously wasn't a true christian," You've got to be joking... she died for God and yet she isn't a true Christian? How sick is that that you think that? And a self proclaiming Christian at that. I guess those hundreds that died at the hands of Nero for being Christian, just weren't Christian enough.

Did you even read the article you linked to? It said that the girl did NOT die as you think.

Please go read your own article.

Such hatred toward another individual, and from a moderator, how deliciously ironic.

Where do you see hatred? If the girl was a True Christian(tm), she would not have been killed unless God wanted her dead.

First of all, if you would have read any of my posts, you would see on the bottom of page 2 I believe (could be page 1 or 3) that I said I'm a guy, way to not read the whole thread.

Sorry, I must have missed that. You sound awfully . . . "sensitive" and "dramatic" to be male, so I just assumed you were a flighty and illogical female.

I believe that they were deceived by the great deceiver, and when they ate the fruit their eyes were open to sin, so they clothed themselves.

Yet God created that "great deceiver", and God, knowing that they would believe the snake, put them together. Yet, you blame God's creation, the snake, for doing exactly what God knew it would do?

Second, when God created Adam and Eve, they were innocent of all sin, it's when they ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge that they sinned. (see past reference to Lucifer)

Now, if Adam and Eve were truly innocent when created, and not until they ate the fruit were they able to comprehend sin, then they could not have known it to be wrong, or sinful, to disobey God.

Therefore, they did not sin, as there was no intent. However, God, in His infinite wisdom, saw fit to cast them out for knowing what sin was, claiming they'd already DONE it!

Incidentally, could you show me where in Genesis the Bible refers to that snake in the garden of Eden as Lucifer? Thanks.

Those that have died in the past were not of God's will. it was man's free will that killed those people. I don't believe that God just wills innocent people to die.

So, you say that God is not capable of preventing the Holocaust? Or perhaps that He just isn't paying attention?

I'm sorry, Sion, I can't believe that our just and loving, omniscient God is overpowered by the will of humans. God has it in His power the ability to stop all wars this instant. He has it in His power the ability to stop abortions, and make the next terrorist find Jesus instead of blowing up a bus station. He doesn't, because HE CHOOSES NOT TO.

An act of omission is still an act, as much as an act of commission. People die because it is God's Will that they die. Your refusal to accept this fact is indicative of your Liberal False Christian status, and a sinful blasphemy against God's power.

Soddam and Gommora were just examples of cesspools of sin, and were treated justly.

So I assume you are eagerly awaiting the destruction of San Francissyco and Jew York City, likewise cesspools of sin?

Of course I don't have any issues with God or his Word.

Really?

God says in His Word that He knows all and is all-powerful. He says that He creates both good and evil. YOU, however, claim that the free will of Hitler is more powerful than the will of God, and that Satan creates evil instead of God.

You deny God's Word with these blasphemies, and attempt to transform him into the fluffy-bunny hippy-happy "god" of stoners and Wiccans!

[Brother Temperance]

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One last thing, I'm pretty sure the King James 1611 isn't the only accurate Bible. How could any other Bible be debunked as false, even though it's still a Bible?

Because all other translations distort the word of Our Lord, which is a pretty serious sin.

[Sionisx2]

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One last thing, I'm pretty sure the King James 1611 isn't the only accurate Bible. How could any other Bible be debunked as false, even though it's still a Bible?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: You know what

The Lord did not have those people killed. It is not His fault for their deaths. Do not blame God for the sins of man. It's called free will. When God gave unto Adam and Eve free will (after eating from the Tree of Life) he gave them the ability to act outside of the realm in which they were created in. God is omniscient, he therefor realized what giving free will to man would incur.

Logically, God being omnipotent, would either cause all death directly, or allow it to happen.
But the Bible say not only that, but that God IS the very Creator of evil.

Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid?
Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Amos 3:6

I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7

So you better stop crediting mere mortal man with God's "frags", and start reading the Bible.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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She obviously wasn't a true christian," You've got to be joking... she died for God and yet she isn't a true Christian? How sick is that that you think that? And a self proclaiming Christian at that. I guess those hundreds that died at the hands of Nero for being Christian, just weren't Christian enough.

Such hatred toward another individual, and from a moderator, how deliciously ironic.

Who said I hate her? I'm sad that she was smited down before she could find salvation through a true church, as she obvious had what it takes to find True Christianity(tm). Maybe she died repenting her sins and accepted Jesus into her heart. However, not being properly baptized and never having tithed to a real church, she may not have made it to Heaven (and that saddens me, as I don't hate her). I'm not sure on if anything other than repentance matters at that point. I would have to check with a pastor or other man who can teach me the finer points of scripture.

[Sionisx2]

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She obviously wasn't a True Christian™. I can tell you with a sense of civic pride that there has never been a murder in Freehold. The worst crime we get are Nigra servants occasionally stealing pies that are left to cool on window sills, but that's it.
Why? Because we have Jesus and the Second Amendment on our side. Not to say accidents can't happen. In fact, I once shot a wetback at the mall who was acting suspiciously, and thanks to his swarthy skin, looked amazingly like a terrorist. Landover Security ruled it an accidental homicide, and my husband, Mr. Whitford, paid off the spic's lucky family as an out of court settlement. Lucky? Yes, their father made more thanks to that oops moment than he would have if he lived to be 100!

She obviously wasn't a true christian," You've got to be joking... she died for God and yet she isn't a true Christian? How sick is that that you think that? And a self proclaiming Christian at that. I guess those hundreds that died at the hands of Nero for being Christian, just weren't Christian enough.

Such hatred toward another individual, and from a moderator, how deliciously ironic.

She obviously wasn't a True Christian™. I can tell you with a sense of civic pride that there has never been a murder in Freehold. The worst crime we get are Nigra servants occasionally stealing pies that are left to cool on window sills, but that's it.
Why? Because we have Jesus and the Second Amendment on our side. Not to say accidents can't happen. In fact, I once shot a wetback at the mall who was acting suspiciously, and thanks to his swarthy skin, looked amazingly like a terrorist. Landover Security ruled it an accidental homicide, and my husband, Mr. Whitford, paid off the spic's lucky family as an out of court settlement. Lucky? Yes, their father made more thanks to that oops moment than he would have if he lived to be 100!

Read Sister Mary Maria's post for proof.

So, Miss Sion, you believe that Adam and Eve did NOT act with free will when they listened to a talking snake and ate forbidden fruit? Were the automatons?

First of all, if you would have read any of my posts, you would see on the bottom of page 2 I believe (could be page 1 or 3) that I said I'm a guy, way to not read the whole thread.

I believe that they were deceived by the great deceiver, and when they ate the fruit their eyes were open to sin, so they clothed themselves.

By your statement above, I can only assume you believe Adam and Eve were innocent of all sin, as they were not acting with free will.

Second, when God created Adam and Eve, they were innocent of all sin, it's when they ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge that they sinned. (see past reference to Lucifer)

Now, God is indeed omniscient; therefore, He knew that Adam and Eve would listen to that talking snake, and that they would eat the fruit and be cast out. He also knew that Hitler would massacre at least SIX THOUSAND Jews in the Holocaust. He also knew that those atheist Goth dweebs would murder innocent teenagers at Columbine!

Those that have died in the past were not of God's will. it was man's free will that killed those people. I don't believe that God just wills innocent people to die. Soddam and Gommora were just examples of cesspools of sin, and were treated justly.

Dear Miss Sion, we only tell people what God says in His Word. If you do not like God's Word, then you have an issue with Him, not with us.

Of course I don't have any issues with God or his Word. I do, however, have an issue with *some* (see biblehumperblonde, other true Christians) that believe they are higher and more praised upon by God than other Christians. Do other Christian society's not accept Jesus Christ as their savior? Do they not try to commit works of good in their communities?

[Bobby-Joe]

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You say there is no room for hate here, yet I see it with almost every thread I were to open; you either need new moderators or ones that have an inkling of intelligence.

Soionisx,

Be fair here. I can not respond to such a sweeping criticism. Show me a specific case and I will show you why you are mistaken about "racism".

I strongly urge you not to jump to such sweeping statements without knowing the facts. After all as a Christian you should know how important having truthful information is for making the correct decision. Once does not reach a personal relationship with our Savior without being fully informed.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cassie.htm
What about that poor girl? Was she not a Christian, leading a good life through Christ, and yet she was still gunned down?
You actually think that no Christian home has ever been broken into, and the occupying family murdered?

She obviously wasn't a True Christian(tm). I can tell you with a sense of civic pride that there has never been a murder in Freehold. The worst crime we get are Nigra servants occasionally stealing pies that are left to cool on window sills, but that's it.
Why? Because we have Jesus and the Second Amendment on our side. Not to say accidents can't happen. In fact, I once shot a wetback at the mall who was acting suspiciously, and thanks to his swarthy skin, looked amazingly like a terrorist. Landover Security ruled it an accidental homicide, and my husband, Mr. Whitford, paid off the spic's lucky family as an out of court settlement. Lucky? Yes, their father made more thanks to that oops moment than he would have if he lived to be 100!

[Brother McGregor]

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ah I understand...many fauz christians see the word of God as hate...
They believe in the lower case god who sits on a cloud surrounded by angels with harps.

[Brother McGregor]

Re: You know what

What is said here is exactly what is in the Bible. If you do not believe us then go and read a King James Version of it. You have that intelligence to see that we are merely bringing the gospel to the unwashed millions.

Don't take my word for it. Research it yourself.

You would probably expect a Buddhist monk to do exactly what he is bidded to do by his "faith"....why is it so impossible for people to respect true Christianity?

[JennyD]

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The Lord did not have those people killed. It is not His fault for their deaths. Do not blame God for the sins of man. It's called free will. When God gave unto Adam and Eve free will (after eating from the Tree of Life) he gave them the ability to act outside of the realm in which they were created in. God is omniscient, he therefor realized what giving free will to man would incur.

So, Miss Sion, you believe that Adam and Eve did NOT act with free will when they listened to a talking snake and ate forbidden fruit? Were the automatons?

By your statement above, I can only assume you believe Adam and Eve were innocent of all sin, as they were not acting with free will.

Now, God is indeed omniscient; therefore, He knew that Adam and Eve would listen to that talking snake, and that they would eat the fruit and be cast out. He also knew that Hitler would massacre at least SIX THOUSAND Jews in the Holocaust. He also knew that those atheist Goth dweebs would murder innocent teenagers at Columbine!

He knew, and He allowed it to happen. Therefore, HE WANTED THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.

Everything that happens is, indeed, God's Will.

Ask our could be new president Hillary Clinton

See what she thinks of the idea of it not being plausable that a little girl could grow up to be whatever she wanted.

Although under the guidance of brother temperance it is likely she would never believe herself capable and so never do it.

Thats murder.

Er, what's murder? Calling you a pansy, or telling Billary Ramrod Klingon that she can't be President?

I just find it quite hilarious that some of the posters with the title "true christian" or "brother xxxx," are so quick to wish damnation upon others.

Would you please point out where any True Christian(tm) here has WISHED damnation upon anyone else?

Dear Miss Sion, we only tell people what God says in His Word. If you do not like God's Word, then you have an issue with Him, not with us.

[Sionisx2]

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Were are we being racists friend? There is no room for hate at Landover.

Maybe you are referring to us holding to the Biblical TRUTH taught by the story of Ham, son of Noah?

You say there is no room for hate here, yet I see it with almost every thread I were to open; you either need new moderators or ones that have an inkling of intelligence.

[Bobby-Joe]

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[/B]I just find it quite hilarious that some of the posters with the title "true christian" or "brother xxxx," are so quick to wish damnation upon others. I'm finished with this forum. I came here trying to figure out why some of you (biblethumpinblonde) are so racist or condescending on others, when they in turn offer no help or guidance.

Were are we being racists friend? There is no room for hate at Landover.

Maybe you are referring to us holding to the Biblical TRUTH taught by the story of Ham, son of Noah?