[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

I stopped reading after you called Christ Jesus a big, fat liar for telling people they can expect an eternal residence in Hell for failing to believe in Him (John 3:18; Matthew 25:46; Mark 9:43).

[handmaiden]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

Christians go to church on Sunday, yet they buy and sell, engage in worldly pursuits, attend sporting events, etc. They do not even keep Sunday holy for their Sabbath.

To which Christians are you referring? True Christians(tm) follow the whole Bible and do NOT participate in any of the activities that you mention.


We here at LBC cannot be responsible for what every Tom, Dick and Harriet calling themselves a Christian does.


We DO know better than to let a woman claim a prominent place of leadership in the church.

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

Nobody is calling Jesus a big fat liar as you claim. Just pointing out an error in punctuation from early translators when they translated the scripture from Hebrew/Greek to English, not Jesus. Plus I never said anything about an eternal place in hell for not believing. Just the opposite. I provided scripture to back up the fact that there is no immediate punishment for the wicked and no immediate reward for the good. This is the exact opposite of what you actually read in my post. (2nd Peter 2:9 e Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished) Perhaps if you had read my entire post, instead of claiming to stop reading it by claiming I said "Jesus is a big, fat liar..." you would have got my point.

As for point #2 below, I am not referring to any particular Christain denomination, but regardless if they observe Sunday sacredness or engage in worldly business is really and truly beside the point. The point is there is absolutely no scriptural basis for observing Sunday. It was mentioned above that the work week begins on Monday. So? That is not when the calendar begins. Anyone can go get their calendar and see that Sunday begins the week, which makes Saturday the seventh. Show me from the Bible and the Bible alone where it is commanded to observe Sunday?? By keeping Sunday, you acknowledge the Catholic Church, since they are the one's who claim the change.


Just for the record, I am not being disrespectful. However, It is disrespectful to have a post titled "False Religions and Cults Catholics, Wiccans, Lutherans...."

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

To which Christians are you referring? True Christians™ follow the whole Bible and do NOT participate in any of the activities that you mention.


We here at LBC cannot be responsible for what every Tom, Dick and Harriet calling themselves a Christian does.


We DO know better than to let a woman claim a prominent place of leadership in the church.

^^If that was true, then why does the Baptist Church support the ordination of women in church leadership???? https://baptistnews.com/article/pion.../#.WUXBdLpFyhc


Following the whole Bible means following the Commandments of God; all 10 of them. John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments.”

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

... many excuses ...

You're confused, dear. You've been lied to by a group that was founded by a woman who didn't know the Holy Scriptures (1 Timothy 2:12). You can tell the tree by its fruit, and the fruit of this particular tree has produced countless pedophiles, not unlike Satan's other favorite cult, the Roman Catholic Church. JWs are such a dangerous group even the bold and rugged commies in Russia are afraid of them and have decided to get rid of them before their soulless vermin-like qualities unleash a Spiritual Bubonic Plague o'er the land.

What you want to do is read the Holy Bible as written in the King James Version, Jesus' personal favorite. He personally sees to the integrity of His Holy Word, but you have to beware of false bibles. You can join us! Landover Bapitist Church Bible Study: Bible in a Year.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

Following the whole Bible means following the Commandments of God; all 10 of them. John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments.”

Actually, since Jesus was God (and God was Jesus PLUS the Holy Spirit), He was referring to all 613 of the mitzvot found within Torah law, as dictated to the Joos. Notice that Jesus never said to keep just the 10 in Exodus 20?

In any event, I was unfortunately required to install electrical equipment at a SDA hospital many years ago, and could not even find a Coca-Cola! And when I lit a cigarette outside the boiler room after a hard day's work, I was chastised and nearly run off the grounds by the idiots. And I find NO commandment at all against such harmless activity?

I will pray for you, my friend. And I am sorry you have been sucked into such a vile cult as the SDA. But Ellen White was probably a frustrated and filthy lesbainian, looking for an outlet to control others so she could sleep at night, even as she and her husband spent their days promoting heresy and fraud.

In Christ Jesus

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

You're confused, dear. You've been lied to by a group that was founded by a woman who didn't know the Holy Scriptures (1 Timothy 2:12). You can tell the tree by its fruit, and the fruit of this particular tree has produced countless pedophiles, not unlike Satan's other favorite cult, the Roman Catholic Church. JWs are such a dangerous group even the bold and rugged commies in Russia are afraid of them and have decided to get rid of them before their soulless vermin-like qualities unleash a Spiritual Bubonic Plague o'er the land.

What you want to do is read the Holy Bible as written in the King James Version, Jesus' personal favorite. He personally sees to the integrity of His Holy Word, but you have to beware of false bibles. You can join us! Landover Bapitist Church Bible Study: Bible in a Year.

Thank you for the warm invite. But to address your point; I am anything but confused. I know very well my system of beliefs; a belief that is founded upon solid ground (the KJV Bible). Pedophiles come from all faiths, cultures, and creeds, same for homosexuals and transgender folks. They exist even in the Baptist faith as well, so do not be deceived.


We must have our beliefs substantiaed by the solid ground of the Bible. Luke 6:47-49 "Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.


What is your opinion of your fellows in the Seventh Day Baptist Church? Do they have it wrong? (Supporting scripture please)


I still would like a confirmation of Sunday sacredness from the Bible....let it be the King James as you suggested. You may want to read up on this as well: http://www.godssabbathtruth.com/catholicchurchchangedsabbathsunday.html


P.S. SDA was founded by William Miller a man. EGW was his wife. The Bible does in fact support prophesy. Biblesupports the gift of prophesy, See Acts 2:17 “And it shall come to pass in thelast days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and yoursons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions,and your old men shall dream dreams:”


See also: TheBible acknowledges female prophets, Miriam (Micah 6:4), Deborah (Judges 4:4),Huldah (Kings 22:14), Noadiah (Nehemiah 6:14), Isaiah’s wife (Isaiah 8:3), Anna(Luke 2:36), and the daughters of Phillip (Acts 21:8-9)

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

Thank you for the warm invite. But to address your point; I am anything but confused. I know very well my system of beliefs; a belief that is founded upon solid ground (the KJV Bible)....

You believe your religion is founded upon solid ground. A belief isn't knowledge, dear. A belief is simply an assumption that your idea is correct, or rather, correct enough to proceed. You're saying that you are simply going on through life as if your religious belief is accurate, without bothering to actually consider the facts. That tells me that you're not interested in the Truth but in protecting your [fragile?] emotions. That's awfully childish. No offense.

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

Actually, since Jesus was God (and God was Jesus PLUS the Holy Spirit), He was referring to all 613 of the mitzvot found within Torah law, as dictated to the Joos. Notice that Jesus never said to keep just the 10 in Exodus 20?

In any event, I was unfortunately required to install electrical equipment at a SDA hospital many years ago, and could not even find a Coca-Cola! And when I lit a cigarette outside the boiler room after a hard day's work, I was chastised and nearly run off the grounds by the idiots. And I find NO commandment at all against such harmless activity?

I will pray for you, my friend. And I am sorry you have been sucked into such a vile cult as the SDA. But Ellen White was probably a frustrated lesbainian, looking for an outlet to control others so she could sleep at night, even as she and her husband spent their days promoting heresy and fraud.

In Christ Jesus

Nicotine is harmful, my dear. It has caused undue suffering and death for tens of millions over the years, and enriched those who profit from it. As far as it relates to the commandments, Thou shall not kill. Your body is considered the temple of God. See below scripture.
1 Corinthians 6:15-20

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


As for 613 in the Torah, that is still not the 10 Commandments. Torah is for Jewish edification that ceased at the cross, and the 10 Commandments is for all mankind. The 10 Commandments is a transcript of God's character. 1 Peter 1:16


As far as your comment of EGW being a probable lesbian, stick with what you can prove as fact, not heresay or rumor. That is half your problem and why you worship on the wrong day. You don't observe F-A-C-T-S. Your lesbian assertion would be as rediculous as me saying that Thomas Helwys or John Smythe were a couple of probable cross-dressers. Stick with facts.


I shall pray for you, my misguided friend; a slave to Rome's doctrines. Rev 13:3 “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”


I still await a scripture verse(s) supporting your basis for Sunday observance.

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

You believe your religion is founded upon solid ground. A belief isn't knowledge, dear. A belief is simply an assumption that your idea is correct, or rather, correct enough to proceed. You're saying that you are simply going on through life as if your religious belief is accurate, without bothering to actually consider the facts. That tells me that you're not interested in the Truth but in protecting your [fragile?] emotions. That's awfully childish. No offense.

I am very much in touch with my religious beliefs. They are all grounded upon the solid ground. (KJV Bible). Facts are facts regarding doctrine, and they check hand in hand with the Bible. Isaiah 28:10


Your reply (no offense) is still without scriptural evidence and without merit. Knowledge is in the scriptures and they (scriptures) are infallible.


You still (as was the other attacker) are unable to, using scripture, support your observance of the Papal Sabbath.


Matthew 15:10 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

You believe your religion is founded upon solid ground. A belief isn't knowledge, dear. A belief is simply an assumption that your idea is correct, or rather, correct enough to proceed. You're saying that you are simply going on through life as if your religious belief is accurate, without bothering to actually consider the facts. That tells me that you're not interested in the Truth but in protecting your [fragile?] emotions. That's awfully childish. No offense.

P.S. I have just received a total of 3 "infraction notices" from you in my email. Are you about to ban me from further dialogue on here? If so, that would be very childish. I am not violating any rules. At least not freedom of speech.


Rather than ban me, enrich me with your "vast knowledge" of the scriptures and show me the so-called error of my ways so that I too, can believe in the Papal Sabbath.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

...I still await a scripture verse(s) supporting your basis for Sunday observance.

As a disinterested observer (for the record, I think both you and the True Christians™ are insane), I have to ask if you realize just how many times over the last 2000-ish years our calendar (and hence dates and days of the week) has been "adjusted" (you may also substitute "mangled", "shredded", or "pretty much scrapped and tossed in the bin")?

Add that to the (unknown to anyone in ancient Israel) fact of 24+ time zones around the world (meaning it's already tomorrow somewhere), what point could harassing someone over which day of the week they choose to insult their own intelligences by having a playdate with their imaginary-friend-of-choice prove, beyond showcasing the desperation involved on both sides?

Why not concentrate on something inarguable, like how much buttsex offends Jesus? Answer: any buttsex at all.

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

You believe your religion is founded upon solid ground. A belief isn't knowledge, dear. A belief is simply an assumption that your idea is correct, or rather, correct enough to proceed. You're saying that you are simply going on through life as if your religious belief is accurate, without bothering to actually consider the facts. That tells me that you're not interested in the Truth but in protecting your [fragile?] emotions. That's awfully childish. No offense.

Mary, read below what the Catholics (not me) have said about you Sunday-observing Christians....


“It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible.” Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Magazine, USA (1975), Chicago, Illinois, “Under the blessing of the Pope Pius XI”
“I am going to propose a very plain and serious question to those who follow ‘the Bible and the Bible only’ to give their most earnest attention. It is this: Why don’t you keep holy the Sabbath day?...
“The command of the Almighty God stands clearly written in the Bible in these words: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work.’ Exodus 20:8-10...
“You will answer me, perhaps, that you do keep the Sabbath; for that you abstain from all worldly business and diligently go to church, and say your prayers, and read your Bible at home every Sunday of your lives...
“But Sunday is not the Sabbath day. Sunday is the first day of the week: the Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week. Almighty God did not give a commandment that men should keep holy one day in seven; but He named His own day, and said distinctly: ‘Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day’; and He assigned a reason for choosing this day rather than any other - a reason which belongs only to the seventh day of the week, and cannot be applied to the rest. He says, ‘For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested on the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it’, Exodus 20:11, Genesis 2:1-3. Almighty God ordered that all men should rest from their labor on the seventh day, because He too had rested on that day: He did not rest on Sunday, but on Saturday. On Sunday, which is the first day of the week, He began the work of creation; He did not finish it. It was on Saturday that He ‘ended His work which he had made: and God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.’ Genesis 2:2-3...
“Nothing can be more plain and easy to understand than all this; there is nobody who attempts to deny it. It is acknowledged by everybody that the day which Almighty God appointed to be kept holy was Saturday, not Sunday. Why do you then keep holy the Sunday and not Saturday?
“You will tell me that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath, but that the Christian Sabbath has been changed to Sunday. Changed! But by whom? Who has the authority to change an express commandment of Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, ‘Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day’, who shall dare to say, ‘Nay, thou mayest work and do all manner of worldly business on the seventh day: but thou shalt keep holy the first day in its stead?’ This is a most important question, which I know not how you answer...
“You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and the Bible only; and yet, in so important a manner as the observance of one day in seven as the holy day, you go against the plain letter of the Bible, and put another day in the place of that day which the Bible has commanded. The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the Ten Commandments; you believe that the other nine are still binding. Who gave you authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own principles, if you really follow the Bible, and the Bible only you ought to be able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth commandment is expressly altered.” Excerpts from “Why Don’t You Keep Holy the Sabbath Day?”, pages 3-15 in The Clifton Tract, vol. 4, published by the Roman Catholic Church 1869.
“The arguments...are firmly grounded on the word of God, and having been closely studied with the Bible in hand, leave no escape for the conscientious Protestant except the abandonment of Sunday worship and the return to Saturday, commanded by their teacher, the Bible, or, unwilling to abandon the tradition of the Catholic Church, which enjoins the keeping of Sunday, and which they have accepted in direct opposition to their teacher, the Bible, consistently accept her (the Catholic Church) in all her teachings. Reason and common sense demand the acceptance of one or the other of these alternatives: either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday, or Catholicism and the keeping holy of Sunday. Compromise is impossible.” James Cardinal Gibbons, in Catholic Mirror, December 23, 1893.


Source: http://www.godssabbathtruth.com/cath...athsunday.html

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

As for 613 in the Torah, that is still not the 10 Commandments. Torah is for Jewish edification that ceased at the cross, and the 10 Commandments is for all mankind.

You are not aware that Exodus 20 (the TC) is the second book of the Pentateuch, and therefore very much Torah Law?


And when you can post Scripture wherein Jesus says to obey only the TC, and categorically dismiss ALL of the other 603 commandments He dictated as God, I might change my opinion that you are simply, and unfortunately, ignorant.


Always in Christ

[wkc127]

Re: Witnessing to a Seventh-Day Adventist

[QUOTE=Didymus Much;1215400]As a disinterested observer (for the record, I think both you and the True Christians™ are insane), I have to ask if you realize just how many times over the last 2000-ish years our calendar (and hence dates and days of the week) has been "adjusted" (you may also substitute "mangled", "shredded", or "pretty much scrapped and tossed in the bin")?

Add that to the (unknown to anyone in ancient Israel) fact of 24+ time zones around the world (meaning it's already tomorrow somewhere), what point could harassing someone over which day of the week they choose to insult their own







Nothing is too hard for God. 24+time zones is no hindrance to divine power. God instituted the Sabbath at creation. He would not ask us to observe it if it could not be done. Anyways, if you are an atheist, then I suppose it does not matter. But if you believe in God, then you obey.


Having a Donald Trump pic in your reply is very telling all on its own…. I am sure he doesn’t care about God or Commandment keeping….. just an orange glowing, over-gesturing international embarrassment…