Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?
I'm sorry, but if you simply refuse to drop that crap music then there's no reason for the great people here to waste their time with you. That's why I'm here, I need help and I'm sure to get it.
Originally posted by Thundermaned
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Sigh, I must say that you people think in a very extreme way.
I'm a true metal head, and I love music in general.
I love hymns, and understand them, but I also love metal and understand it.
The problem is that you people think Black White, and think to know the truth and hold to it!
I'm happy with my open mind, as it is the only way for people to grow mentally.
I'm also proud that I can respect anyone on the world, whilst you people actually HATE others!
I can hardly comprehend how that would be!
What I find most offensive is that you people actually try to speak FOR Christianity, as the only wise Christian I am aware of is Jesus himself.
If someone is ought to go to the abyss, let God decide, not you...
Really sickening texts I found in this topic, and I'm really shocked about it.
Thats why I picked out the most offending and I will tell about it what I dislike, because isn't Christianity about subtleness? Not boasting?:
"Are you collecting weapons for your final assault? Let us help you before it's too late."
This is rubbish, people who listen metal are normal people, they simply listen metal, actually I found metal made me a better person, but I'll get back on that later.
"Iron Maiden sang of “The number of the Beast (rev.Ch13)” on the eponymous LP"
Ah, this is a subject I would like to talk about, as are lyrics about Satan sinful?
If so, than this very discussion about metal is sinful.
There can be no compromise, don't you agree? Songs about Satan, or talking about Satan, just as sinful.
What I mean by that, its NOT sinful, nor are songs ABOUT Satan.
You people don't understand what metal is about, and that's why I will explain it to you!
Now would it be sinful to say Satan is evil? Or to say it is bad to worship Satan?
THAT, is what metal is often about, its about bad things, and how people are against it.
Often, in truth, metal takes a neutral look bad, or evil subjects, and simply write songs about it, and let others decide.
Which, in my interpretation, is a lot better than all the "you will certainly go to hell" stuff going about.
Really what do you prefer?
Someone saying "In that case YOU WILL GO TO HELL!" Or an open discussion about a subject, where you actually wiser.
In fact, I learned a lot more by metal lyrics, than by hymns!
If you care to hear my story:
For me, metal saved my life, it made me what I am today: a musician, and helped me through bad times.
So don't EVER come with short-sighted arguments again, about Metal being evil, or only doing bad, instead of good.
If you DO want more explaining about metal and their lyrics, I will happily do so.
Lets proceed.
"How old is this retard? Does your teacher know that you write like that?"
Very Christian to call people names sir. Let alone good.
"Continue dreaming friend, continue dreaming.I shall look down upon you burning, while I sit comfortably aside my Christian brothers and sisters in Heaven."
Isn't sadism sinful? To me sadism is a reason to go to hell!
To me, being sadistic, is the worst thing I can think of.
"Is there any hope that you'll ever manage to get more than just one sentence in a Post? What are you? Retarded?"
Take people more serious please, its not like you are a angel right now.
"You won't think so when you are burning in a hell of fire while rabid wildebeests rape you anally with their huge, fiery, throbbing tallywackers you unregenerate reprobate homo sinner."
For a Christian you don't take hell very seriously, do you?
I don't wish ANYONE to go to hell, do you actually understand what hell means?
And you had to hear that from a non-Christian!!!!!!!
Really serious: Shame on you!
"Please don't refer to me as "boy" - I am a white Christian man sir and you would do well to bear that in mind. Your CD's are satanic you demon. I try to share the love of Jesus with you and look what you do, you are truly hateful. Just to prove my Christian nature I am gonna pray for you anyway you pantload."
I would pray to anyone.
The fact you don't want to pray, but "have to do so" makes you a bad Christian.
"As far as I'm concerned, modern beat combos ARE instruments of torture"
Nonsense, the things simply are the way they are!
Good is good, bad is bad, no compromise, so that means a musical instrument is a musical instrument, not a torture instrument.
"Was there meant to be any kind of meaning in that jumble of words, or did you just want to prove once and for all that the Devil's Music destroys young brains, especially when mixed with the drug pills?"
Actually, metal is complex music and stimulates your brains. You my friend, are ignorant, sorry if I'm wrong.
And why are you guessing he is taking drug pills? Does your short-sighted mind really think metal automatically involves drugs?
"If this is you when you're at your best, I'd hate to see what you're like when your mommy tells you it's time to turn that demonracket down."
Nonsense to its fullest, my friends listen metal, and all of us are very kind and loving.
"This is no question of degree, it is a question of absolutes – listen to Satan’s howlings and you will be getting live performances"
Perhaps kindo sarcastic, but if I get to listen more metal, I'll be happy!
"Sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way. If I'm arrested for something that I don't believe should be illegal, I'm still going to jail. Do you follow me?"
Sinner! Jesus was all about listening to your hearth!
"It may not be the only way, but it is the only way that works."
I'm sorry, can't agree on that either, there are plenty of wonderful people who are not Christian.
"The vile pervertions you and your kind wallow in may seem clever and modern to you, but in God's eyes, sin is timeless. He doesn't care who the latest pile of filth is that you gyrate your body to, like some jungle bunny hopped up on the drugs. Sin is sin."
I actually agree to that! But than again, some people have different opinions about what is sinful and what is not, let alone PEOPLE deciding what is!
If someone would ever tell me I have sinned, it would be like talking to a wall, because I may very well have different interpretations about that.
Making me the better one on that moment.
"Think of the world before metal and rock… think of the world now… coincidence? I think not."
The world before metal and rock was boring, there are more happy people and for me metal is inspiring.
As far as I'm aware of it, I cannot find anything more satisfying for my mind than metal.
Because of metal I am the person who I am today.
Before I listened metal I was careless, and sinful, and nowadays, I believe I'm less sinful than the average Christian.
Because of metal, I feel a better person, something I would not have achieved by anything else.
Wonderful isn't it?
All different people, and different interpretations.
I'm a true metal head, and I love music in general.
I love hymns, and understand them, but I also love metal and understand it.
The problem is that you people think Black White, and think to know the truth and hold to it!
I'm happy with my open mind, as it is the only way for people to grow mentally.
I'm also proud that I can respect anyone on the world, whilst you people actually HATE others!
I can hardly comprehend how that would be!
What I find most offensive is that you people actually try to speak FOR Christianity, as the only wise Christian I am aware of is Jesus himself.
If someone is ought to go to the abyss, let God decide, not you...
Really sickening texts I found in this topic, and I'm really shocked about it.
Thats why I picked out the most offending and I will tell about it what I dislike, because isn't Christianity about subtleness? Not boasting?:
"Are you collecting weapons for your final assault? Let us help you before it's too late."
This is rubbish, people who listen metal are normal people, they simply listen metal, actually I found metal made me a better person, but I'll get back on that later.
"Iron Maiden sang of “The number of the Beast (rev.Ch13)” on the eponymous LP"
Ah, this is a subject I would like to talk about, as are lyrics about Satan sinful?
If so, than this very discussion about metal is sinful.
There can be no compromise, don't you agree? Songs about Satan, or talking about Satan, just as sinful.
What I mean by that, its NOT sinful, nor are songs ABOUT Satan.
You people don't understand what metal is about, and that's why I will explain it to you!
Now would it be sinful to say Satan is evil? Or to say it is bad to worship Satan?
THAT, is what metal is often about, its about bad things, and how people are against it.
Often, in truth, metal takes a neutral look bad, or evil subjects, and simply write songs about it, and let others decide.
Which, in my interpretation, is a lot better than all the "you will certainly go to hell" stuff going about.
Really what do you prefer?
Someone saying "In that case YOU WILL GO TO HELL!" Or an open discussion about a subject, where you actually wiser.
In fact, I learned a lot more by metal lyrics, than by hymns!
If you care to hear my story:
For me, metal saved my life, it made me what I am today: a musician, and helped me through bad times.
So don't EVER come with short-sighted arguments again, about Metal being evil, or only doing bad, instead of good.
If you DO want more explaining about metal and their lyrics, I will happily do so.
Lets proceed.
"How old is this retard? Does your teacher know that you write like that?"
Very Christian to call people names sir. Let alone good.
"Continue dreaming friend, continue dreaming.I shall look down upon you burning, while I sit comfortably aside my Christian brothers and sisters in Heaven."
Isn't sadism sinful? To me sadism is a reason to go to hell!
To me, being sadistic, is the worst thing I can think of.
"Is there any hope that you'll ever manage to get more than just one sentence in a Post? What are you? Retarded?"
Take people more serious please, its not like you are a angel right now.

"You won't think so when you are burning in a hell of fire while rabid wildebeests rape you anally with their huge, fiery, throbbing tallywackers you unregenerate reprobate homo sinner."
For a Christian you don't take hell very seriously, do you?
I don't wish ANYONE to go to hell, do you actually understand what hell means?
And you had to hear that from a non-Christian!!!!!!!
Really serious: Shame on you!
"Please don't refer to me as "boy" - I am a white Christian man sir and you would do well to bear that in mind. Your CD's are satanic you demon. I try to share the love of Jesus with you and look what you do, you are truly hateful. Just to prove my Christian nature I am gonna pray for you anyway you pantload."
I would pray to anyone.
The fact you don't want to pray, but "have to do so" makes you a bad Christian.
"As far as I'm concerned, modern beat combos ARE instruments of torture"
Nonsense, the things simply are the way they are!
Good is good, bad is bad, no compromise, so that means a musical instrument is a musical instrument, not a torture instrument.
"Was there meant to be any kind of meaning in that jumble of words, or did you just want to prove once and for all that the Devil's Music destroys young brains, especially when mixed with the drug pills?"
Actually, metal is complex music and stimulates your brains. You my friend, are ignorant, sorry if I'm wrong.
And why are you guessing he is taking drug pills? Does your short-sighted mind really think metal automatically involves drugs?
"If this is you when you're at your best, I'd hate to see what you're like when your mommy tells you it's time to turn that demonracket down."
Nonsense to its fullest, my friends listen metal, and all of us are very kind and loving.
"This is no question of degree, it is a question of absolutes – listen to Satan’s howlings and you will be getting live performances"
Perhaps kindo sarcastic, but if I get to listen more metal, I'll be happy!
"Sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way. If I'm arrested for something that I don't believe should be illegal, I'm still going to jail. Do you follow me?"
Sinner! Jesus was all about listening to your hearth!
"It may not be the only way, but it is the only way that works."
I'm sorry, can't agree on that either, there are plenty of wonderful people who are not Christian.
"The vile pervertions you and your kind wallow in may seem clever and modern to you, but in God's eyes, sin is timeless. He doesn't care who the latest pile of filth is that you gyrate your body to, like some jungle bunny hopped up on the drugs. Sin is sin."
I actually agree to that! But than again, some people have different opinions about what is sinful and what is not, let alone PEOPLE deciding what is!
If someone would ever tell me I have sinned, it would be like talking to a wall, because I may very well have different interpretations about that.
Making me the better one on that moment.
"Think of the world before metal and rock… think of the world now… coincidence? I think not."
The world before metal and rock was boring, there are more happy people and for me metal is inspiring.
As far as I'm aware of it, I cannot find anything more satisfying for my mind than metal.
Because of metal I am the person who I am today.
Before I listened metal I was careless, and sinful, and nowadays, I believe I'm less sinful than the average Christian.
Because of metal, I feel a better person, something I would not have achieved by anything else.
Wonderful isn't it?
All different people, and different interpretations.


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