[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Thank you friend. I'm receiving contradictory information in regards to whether genealogies can be used...

You see what happens when you listen to satan-inspired men? Listen to demon-possessed researchers in the lucifer-owned colleges and universities of the land and you are sure to be led astray.

Go with God's black-and-white Truth™ instead and you will never see a single contradiction or dilemma anywhere!

When it comes to the age of the earth, or the earth as a liveable habitat I simply come to the conclusion that it is unknown or to say the very least, I do not know.

Well, sure...if you mean, could the earth be 6,000-ish years old, having been created on the morning of, say, October 9th at 9:30 am central-standard time, as opposed to December 8th at midnight, then fine. God hasn't revealed everything to us, just everything we need to know.

I mean who can fathom what a formless, empty, watery earth, utterly devoid of light, might have been like? I realize it did not remain in such a dark and barren condition very long, but how long did the Spirit of God hover over the waters or surround and guard over the earth?

The whole process took just a few evenings and mornings (Genesis 1-2).

I believe God directed all aspects of the creation and didn't create a mechanism for evolution and leave the universe to develop to maturity on its own. But when it comes to the age of the earth I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown.

God created everything perfectly right the way it is (see Isaiah 45:18), only in six days. Only child-molesting theistic evolutionists believe otherwise.

I don't believe in Evolution but believe the book of Genesis to be literal, and no I do not insert the gap theory between Genesis 1:1-2 as it would be contradictory to sin entering the world before Adam.

Then you shouldn't have any such questions. But that's good to know.

Now you're on the right track!

In Him,

Pastor Ed

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Right, one should not go too deeply into the word of God except in the presence of suitable people. I can respect others who have simple and unquestioning faith that might well be disturbed and shaken.

1 Peter 3:15

Wait, I'm confused. You said you were trying to figure out why you believe the faith. Do you think the pastors of Landover Baptist Church are not suitable enough to go deeply into the Word of God with you?

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

That doesn't make sense. Why would a True Christian™ try to understand belief? We are told to believe, not dissect and analyze that belief. Why, that would just lead to skepticism, and perhaps atheism.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Proverbs 3:5

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope:
for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Romans 8:24

For we walk by faith, not by sight
2Corinthians 5:7

Right, one should not go too deeply into the word of God except in the presence of suitable people. I can respect others who have simple and unquestioning faith that might well be disturbed and shaken.

1 Peter 3:15

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

I do ask "why" a lot in an attempt to understand why I believe.

That doesn't make sense. Why would a True Christian™ try to understand belief? We are told to believe, not dissect and analyze that belief. Why, that would just lead to skepticism, and perhaps atheism.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Proverbs 3:5

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope:
for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Romans 8:24

For we walk by faith, not by sight
2Corinthians 5:7

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

So does he think it was like, I don't know, 6,100 years? Or something farfetched like 10,000 years?

10,000 years? 10,000 years?



I can see things being off by a few years because of shoddy contemporary record-keeping (unusual for joos, but hey) or even people telling little white lies about their actual age, but I can't imagine Jesus making a 4,000 year error.

YiC,

Zech

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Now chew on it, Sneaky, because you ask too many damn questions. And most of the time you don't make any sense either.

"You do not exist," or "What is reality?", what in hell is that all meant to mean?

Shoot, you don't know enough to go piss in the gasoline, boy.

Less of your speechifying, and more praising the LORD, would be more befitting to one such as yourself.

Although the words fall from your mouth like little droplets of spattered diarrhoea, I do earnestly pray for you.

YBIC

Matthew

You're quite amusing Mr. Matthew Hopkins. I do ask "why" a lot in an attempt to understand why I believe.

Referring to other posts outside this thread the questions I asked another, were to examine whether anyone can prove an existence outside of their very own. But if people cannot prove their own existence how are they to prove or disprove another? Regarding reality, I am interested in others, their worldviews -- what people believe about God, ultimate reality, knowledge, ethics, and human nature.

I kindly accept your prayer on my behalf, and I offer my sincere prayers for you too, thanking the Lord that not only yourself but others have come into my life through this forum to bring glory to the Lord our God.

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Thank you Brother Harold Porter for the godly advice.

Now chew on it, Sneaky, because you ask too many damn questions. And most of the time you don't make any sense either.

"You do not exist," or "What is reality?", what in hell is that all meant to mean?

Shoot, you don't know enough to go piss in the gasoline, boy.

Less of your speechifying, and more praising the LORD, would be more befitting to one such as yourself.

Although the words fall from your mouth like little droplets of spattered diarrhoea, I do earnestly pray for you.

YBIC

Matthew

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Do you see the problem here, my friend? All the conjecture and confusion?

It need not be such a concern. Trust God with what He says.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

In Christ

Thank you Brother Harold Porter for the godly advice.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

I simply come to the conclusion...I do not know...I believe...I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown...I don't believe...

Do you see the problem here, my friend? All the conjecture and confusion?

It need not be such a concern. Trust God with what He says.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

In Christ

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Pat Robertson is getting senile – here he wants to legalize pot

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

You should try reading it, my friend.

In Christ

Thank you friend. I'm receiving contradictory information in regards to whether genealogies can be used to reconstruct the age of the earth, and whether genealogies itself presents itself for establishing absolute chronologies -- Kings 6:1. I am being taught that Genesis 5 does not possess a complete list. Genesis 5 and 11 exhibit 10-name genealogies that consist of stereotypical patterns. The two genealogies are also linear, meaning that they include only one descendant per generation (segmented genealogies have more; see Genesis 10:1-32). Since genealogies may telescope generations (see above), and since Genesis 5 is highly stylized, it is likely an "open" (selective) genealogy that spans many generations.

When it comes to the age of the earth, or the earth as a liveable habitat I simply come to the conclusion that it is unknown or to say the very least, I do not know. I mean who can fathom what a formless, empty, watery earth, utterly devoid of light, might have been like? I realize it did not remain in such a dark and barren condition very long, but how long did the Spirit of God hover over the waters or surround and guard over the earth? I believe God directed all aspects of the creation and didn't create a mechanism for evolution and leave the universe to develop to maturity on its own. But when it comes to the age of the earth I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown.

I don't believe in Evolution but believe the book of Genesis to be literal, and no I do not insert the gap theory between Genesis 1:1-2 as it would be contradictory to sin entering the world before Adam.

Any help would be appreciated. Young Earth, Old Earth, or Unknown Earth seems to be the options presented to me thus far in studies.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

You should try reading it, my friend.

Well said, Brother Porter. Others that question you or the Bible should be on notice, this man's mind is like a steel trap. Skeptics, you don't have a chance.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

How does one come to the conclusion that the earth is 6000 or 10000 years of age?

The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

You should try reading it, my friend.

In Christ

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

How does one come to the conclusion that the earth is 6000 or 10000 years of age?

[Rev. Jamar D. Dodson]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

There are times Robertson so disappoints me. How can he do these things and say he is a Christian?

Now, he is saying the earth is more than 6,000 years old. False, Pat. Don't be so sure you are headed for heaven:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pa...e-wrong-85705/

So does he think it was like, I don't know, 6,100 years? Or something farfetched like 10,000 years?