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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO!
Look at this twisted article from a LIEbral that continues to mock our Godly Pastor Zeke.
YIC
Look at this twisted article from a LIEbral that continues to mock our Godly Pastor Zeke.
YIC
The abortion debate solved
By Ezekiel K. Bush - September 20, 2008, 12:15AM
I was recently talking to my wife about the prospect of the McCain/Palin (or Palin/McCain) winning this election then turning the Supreme Court into a perverted wet dream of the foaming at the mouth right wing. We are one close (and most likely stolen) election away from the reversal of roe v wade, and women in this Country being forced to give birth to children they are unprepared to raise. The morning after pill will be eliminated, and if they have their way, birth control may be as well. Abstinence only education will be the only education children get in schools, right along with learning how dinosaurs were on board Noah's Ark and that Adam and Eve were the first living beings on this planet when God created the earth and the entire Universe a few thousand years ago.
But my wife made a point that should be brought up to every pro life person out there. They should be forced to answer the following questions, and they shouldn't be allowed to skirt the issue with answers that don't make sense (keep in mind, nothing they say makes much sense - but this is one of the best arguments I've heard to combat the pro life viewpoint. You simply agree with them, and make their God as big as they claim he is.
Evangelical Christians believe the following:
1) God does not make mistakes
2) God is all powerful and can do anything he chooses
Life begins at conception and is pre-ordained ("before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" Jeremiah 1:5
God decides when to “call us home”. We’ve all heard Christians say when trying to comfort us about the loss of a loved one, “They are in a better place”, “God needed them in Heaven more than we needed them here”, or “It was their time, and only God can know when that is”.
Taking all this into account, why would we mere mortals presume that God wouldn’t be able to save a baby if he wanted to? Also, there are many examples in the Old Testament of God using humans to do his work. What if he’s just deciding that the babies that do get aborted are supposed to be “called home”? Don’t Christians have faith that God will decide which baby’s are born and which are called home?
What about Christians who are all too willing to send our young men and women into war? Does God decide who lives or dies, or by choosing to participate in an unnecessary war did we decide for God? What is the first thing we hear when our brothers or sisters or parents come home in a pine box? We hear that they are in a “perfect place”, free of pain and suffering and worry and want. So we as humans are going to deny small babies that same perfection? And many of the soldiers who die are going to go to Hell, and will spend eternity burning and in constant unbearable torture for ever and ever and ever. With unborn babies, I’m sure God takes them into his loving arms and they will forever bask in the eternal bliss of heaven.
What about the condemned prisoner? How can the pro lifers feel that we have the right to decide when someone is called home, regardless of the crimes he’s committed on this earth? Isn’t Christianity at its heart a religion of forgiveness? How can a man who’s received God’s forgiveness be executed? Wouldn’t the twelve men and women on the jury, the people involved in the prosecution, and the Governor be risking God’s wrath by killing one of his beloved children? If you value the life of an unborn child and feel that taking that life is a sin, how is allowing a condemned man to die any less of a sin?
The question we pro choicers need to ask the pro lifers is why they feel the need to distrust God. We believe in choice. We believe that God will not allow a life to be taken that shouldn’t. Maybe if a group of cells is aborted, God simply transfers that soul into another woman? How can we say? We can’t. But we don’t presume to turn God into god by limiting his power or by putting him in a small box and claiming that he can only create life in babies and take it once they’ve been born.
Have the pro lifers considered that changing the law and taking the decision out of the hands of God, we are putting millions of babies at risk? Those babies would have spent eternity in heaven, in eternal bliss. But instead, we are sentencing a good portion of them to eternity in hell. Those babies will undoubtedly not have the cushy life that Governor Palin’s granddaughter has. They will be born to drug addicted mothers, and into poverty. They may not get a good education, and will most likely at one point in their life commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy. And when they are roasting in hell, their skin being burned off as they are continually cast into the lake of fire do you think they will thank you?
I think not.
By Ezekiel K. Bush - September 20, 2008, 12:15AM
I was recently talking to my wife about the prospect of the McCain/Palin (or Palin/McCain) winning this election then turning the Supreme Court into a perverted wet dream of the foaming at the mouth right wing. We are one close (and most likely stolen) election away from the reversal of roe v wade, and women in this Country being forced to give birth to children they are unprepared to raise. The morning after pill will be eliminated, and if they have their way, birth control may be as well. Abstinence only education will be the only education children get in schools, right along with learning how dinosaurs were on board Noah's Ark and that Adam and Eve were the first living beings on this planet when God created the earth and the entire Universe a few thousand years ago.
But my wife made a point that should be brought up to every pro life person out there. They should be forced to answer the following questions, and they shouldn't be allowed to skirt the issue with answers that don't make sense (keep in mind, nothing they say makes much sense - but this is one of the best arguments I've heard to combat the pro life viewpoint. You simply agree with them, and make their God as big as they claim he is.
Evangelical Christians believe the following:
1) God does not make mistakes
2) God is all powerful and can do anything he chooses
Life begins at conception and is pre-ordained ("before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" Jeremiah 1:5
God decides when to “call us home”. We’ve all heard Christians say when trying to comfort us about the loss of a loved one, “They are in a better place”, “God needed them in Heaven more than we needed them here”, or “It was their time, and only God can know when that is”.
Taking all this into account, why would we mere mortals presume that God wouldn’t be able to save a baby if he wanted to? Also, there are many examples in the Old Testament of God using humans to do his work. What if he’s just deciding that the babies that do get aborted are supposed to be “called home”? Don’t Christians have faith that God will decide which baby’s are born and which are called home?
What about Christians who are all too willing to send our young men and women into war? Does God decide who lives or dies, or by choosing to participate in an unnecessary war did we decide for God? What is the first thing we hear when our brothers or sisters or parents come home in a pine box? We hear that they are in a “perfect place”, free of pain and suffering and worry and want. So we as humans are going to deny small babies that same perfection? And many of the soldiers who die are going to go to Hell, and will spend eternity burning and in constant unbearable torture for ever and ever and ever. With unborn babies, I’m sure God takes them into his loving arms and they will forever bask in the eternal bliss of heaven.
What about the condemned prisoner? How can the pro lifers feel that we have the right to decide when someone is called home, regardless of the crimes he’s committed on this earth? Isn’t Christianity at its heart a religion of forgiveness? How can a man who’s received God’s forgiveness be executed? Wouldn’t the twelve men and women on the jury, the people involved in the prosecution, and the Governor be risking God’s wrath by killing one of his beloved children? If you value the life of an unborn child and feel that taking that life is a sin, how is allowing a condemned man to die any less of a sin?
The question we pro choicers need to ask the pro lifers is why they feel the need to distrust God. We believe in choice. We believe that God will not allow a life to be taken that shouldn’t. Maybe if a group of cells is aborted, God simply transfers that soul into another woman? How can we say? We can’t. But we don’t presume to turn God into god by limiting his power or by putting him in a small box and claiming that he can only create life in babies and take it once they’ve been born.
Have the pro lifers considered that changing the law and taking the decision out of the hands of God, we are putting millions of babies at risk? Those babies would have spent eternity in heaven, in eternal bliss. But instead, we are sentencing a good portion of them to eternity in hell. Those babies will undoubtedly not have the cushy life that Governor Palin’s granddaughter has. They will be born to drug addicted mothers, and into poverty. They may not get a good education, and will most likely at one point in their life commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy. And when they are roasting in hell, their skin being burned off as they are continually cast into the lake of fire do you think they will thank you?
I think not.
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