[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I'm done ranting,you will never hear from me again

Bye, coward.

[Bill R. Briscoe]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

First off, the Moomins do celebrate Christmas.
This is likely evidence that I do not have any form of understanding
or acknowledgement.I am a homosexual.
He drank wine and yet we can't indulge in it.
We are not all saints. We sin everyday in a way some of us don't even know. But I know my sins, and it involves a lot of anal sex and beastiality.
In my honest potion,this would be a boring life
if you didn't enjoy something once in a while.
What are you gonna say: Eating candy is a sin? Not washing your hands is a sin?
Not tying your shoe is a sin? Ordering Chinese food with msg is a sin.
My point is live a little,and repent for the small irrelevant sins
later. Not now, is what I'm saying. Go kill and cheat on your spouse! Then have a drink,
watch/read something new,have fun.

I'm done ranting,you will never hear from me again!

May God bless you and your families!

I've attempted to translate that into English for future posters.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I'm done ranting,

I doubt that.

you will never hear from me again

That's your loss and our gain.

May god bless you and your families

Thank you, He already has!

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

First its X-men you bash than about deficating being evil leaving you
Now the moomins...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember writing anything about some X-men. Who or what are X-men anyway, are they some transsexual perverts or something? I may have to look into that matter, if there really is something like that directed at children.

[Hanna DownWithG.O.D]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Hi.

Me and my friends from Finland have been reading this thread.

I am pentecostal Christian, studying to be pastor at the Iso Kirja (The Big Book) -college. Web site: http://www.isokirja.fi/e_etusivu/?session=53503165

I have been watching Moomins for my whole childhood and for me it has been the best children's program that there has ever been in Finnish TV.
It is not too scary and still it is interesting.
All the Power Buff Girl stuff is in my view stuff that makes children act and think badly. I think that those kind of programs are bad for children. You can not say that they are from Satan, but those programs could get pretty close.

Im gonna go through some of your main points and argue against those.

The Moomins themselves are white pig/hippo like demons that live in the Moomin Valley. Their appearance is taken from bible part where Jesus drives devil out of two men.

So you see, Moomins are metaphor for demon possessed men.

Pardon me, but this is the worst allegory interpretation of these bible verses that i have ever heard. We have a word for this: Eisegesis, interpretation where people stuff their own ideas into bible. Where there is in this bible passage description of hippos ?? Matthews place have nothing to do with moomins what so ever.

Moomintroll

Moomintroll is a bastard son of Moominmamma and Moominpappa. Has openly sexual relationship with Snorkmaiden. Sometimes they live in sin together in Moomin house. Troll is malevolent being out of Scandinavian mythology, originally referring to Finnish people.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Moomins are the most nonsexual childrens program that there is.
Could you please show me the episode where moomintroll and snorkmaiden are having sex ? Because I have never in my whole life seen that sort of episode..
And also moominmamma and pappa got married in one episode, so your arguments are wrong.
And there is no chubby hippo in Scandinavian mythology, so you are wrong again..

The bible verses you are referring to are out of context, again, and they have nothing to do with moomins what so ever.
Also, If we would check the backgrounds of members of congregations there wouldn't be much left, if after tenth generation there is no coming to the congregation..

Moominmamma & Moominpappa

Guardians of Moomintroll, not married, relationships are unclear. Let Moomintroll share bed with harlot Snorkmaiden under their roof.

Proverbs 6:32 But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul

Look the answer before.
Proverbs are also a one kind of literature class that is not to be interpreted as dogmatic texts.

Little My

Another bastard raised by Moomins. She is of different race than Moomins. Thieving anarchist.

Job 24:14 The murderer rising with the light killeth the poor and needy, and in the night is as a thief.

There is no mention about Mys parents what so ever in the Moomins, so we cannot actually say nothing about that.
Thieving anarchist is really lot to say about my role model.. Could you show me the episodes where My steals something ? Could you also show me the episode where she shows some anarchistic forms ? Cause I have some doubts about this as well.
Again the bible passage to which you refer to has nothing to do with moomins what so ever.

Snork maiden

A whore that seduces Moomintroll into fornication.

Deuteronomy 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

A Whore ? Couldn't see that coming either.. Look at the previous questions.

Snufkin

Revolting freeloading hippie. Atheist and hates all authorities and constantly smokes different hallucinogens in his corn pipe. This junkie is half-brother of Little My.

He is not a hippie. He is a traveler and wise lecturer. He also smokes a pipe but not any hallucinogens. Where did you get that idea from ? And where did you also get the idea that he is Mys half-brother ? Cause this is not mentioned in the series.

The Groke

The enemy of the Moomins. He is big flat-nosed savage black creature who communicates with feral growls and only want to harm others. His purpose is to enforce racial stereotypes.

What the... ? Racial stereotypes ? Where did you get this from ? Groke does not seem to me like African at all. He is the bogeyman of moomins.

The Hemulen

Maybe the most deviant of all creatures in Moomin valley. This seemingly harmless elder chap is truly a libertine and abomination. He lives alone, wears a purple dress, collects butterflies and stamps and like frolicking with younger males of the Moomin valley. This lewd sodomite goes constantly on sex vacations.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

WHAAAAT ?? Could you please show me the episode where Hemulen haves sex with male characters ? Cause this is so insane argument that I really cannot reflect to this with any sort of seriousness.
Hemulen is really a peculiar character in this serie, but I never thought as a child that he is somewhat gayish fellow. Nothing bad about him.



Thank you for wasting my time..

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I think you should first read the Moomin books and the bible before writing about the stuff you have no knowledge about.

Pardon me, but this is the worst allegory interpretation of these bible verses that i have ever heard. We have a word for this: Eisegesis, interpretation where people stuff their own ideas into bible. Where there is in this bible passage description of hippos ?? Matthews place have nothing to do with moomins what so ever.

I said pig/hippo. Matthew is very relevant as Jesus put the devil in the swine and made them drown themselves. Swine means pig.

The bible verses you are referring to are out of context, again, and they have nothing to do with moomins what so ever.
Also, If we would check the backgrounds of members of congregations there wouldn't be much left, if after tenth generation there is no coming to the congregation..

How is that bastard shall not enter the congregation of God out of context? You may be some fluffy bunny Christian that does not follow the bible. We, who follows the bible, know that bastard even in his tenth genaration shall not enter congregation of God.

There is no mention about Mys parents what so ever in the Moomins, so we cannot actually say nothing about that.

Read the books! Mymble is the mother of My. My's sister is also called Mymble.

And where did you also get the idea that he is Mys half-brother ? Cause this is not mentioned in the series.

I got the idea from the Moomin books. You know, those written by Tove Jansson. He is the son of the elder Mymble and the Joxter and is half-brother to the Mymble's daughter and Little My.

Thank you for wasting my time..

I am sorry, but it is you who has wasted your time. As I said before, learn a bit about the stuff before you write about it.

[Just A Girl]

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It makes me SO sad to read the posts. CHRISTIANS from USA who have never been out of their own country make fun of others and talking about something they know nothing about. I thought Christians are understanding people and they do not judge without knowing, am I right?
I have traveled everywhere from USA to China and Spain to Finland and Sweden. All I can say based on everything I have seen with my own two eyes is that Moomins are one of THE LEAST sexual or "bad" cartoon. Americans watch everything from Pokemon to Batman and they think they have the right to make fun of a cartoon which they have NEVER even seen? Please... (I'm not talking about the Japanese version -never seen that one sooo can't say anything at all about it) Moomins are like Winnie the Pooh is for you guys.. But then again I guess Pooh is next to Satan too for you guys! It's not like I accuse Pooh for having sexual feelings for Piglet or Christopher having a mental disorder... USE YOUR BRAIN!
Of course the original books are a bit more brutal than the cartoons on TV BUT Moomins are no where near like for example Grimm's fairy tales...

These comments... they made me ASHAMED of Americans... Please use your own brains and stop listening to this poor man's opinions... If he had visited Sweden or Finland or ever even visited Europe, he would know how wrong he is...... Everyone makes mistakes... but sometimes shutting mouth would be just better than spreading hatred. God bless ya'll!

[Catherine Moore]

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Sorry, check what it says in red underneath his name. I'll wait.

Back? Brother Alban is Landover's apostle to the godless eskimos (or one of them at least.) He lives up in that frozen nightmare land.

And pooh quite clearly has sexual feelings for piglet. I remember with horror a story where pooh got stuck "in a hole" and piglet had to "pull him". Are you genuinely claiming that isn't a euphemism for anything?

[Noah Sole]

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It makes me SO sad to read the posts. CHRISTIANS from USA who have never been out of their own country make fun of others and talking about something they know nothing about. I thought Christians are understanding people and they do not judge without knowing, am I right?
I have traveled everywhere from USA to China and Spain to Finland and Sweden. All I can say based on everything I have seen with my own two eyes is that Moomins are one of THE LEAST sexual or "bad" cartoon. Americans watch everything from Pokemon to Batman and they think they have the right to make fun of a cartoon which they have NEVER even seen? Please... (I'm not talking about the Japanese version -never seen that one sooo can't say anything at all about it) Moomins are like Winnie the Pooh is for you guys.. But then again I guess Pooh is next to Satan too for you guys! It's not like I accuse Pooh for having sexual feelings for Piglet or Christopher having a mental disorder... USE YOUR BRAIN!
Of course the original books are a bit more brutal than the cartoons on TV BUT Moomins are no where near like for example Grimm's fairy tales...

These comments... they made me ASHAMED of Americans... Please use your own brains and stop listening to this poor man's opinions... If he had visited Sweden or Finland or ever even visited Europe, he would know how wrong he is...... Everyone makes mistakes... but sometimes shutting mouth would be just better than spreading hatred. God bless ya'll!

Thanks for your blessing JustaGirl (I like the appropriate use of the word 'just')

We don't know anything about you, how about you Introduce yourself properly. I am particularly interested in which is your favourite Bible verse, what inspires you? The verse inspiring me today is:

1 Timothy 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Yours in Christ

Noah

[Just A Girl]

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He does not know what he talks about. For example he said eskimos live in Finland... -I'm sorry to disappoint him and you but Finland is not full of eskimos.. Neither or Sweden or Norway... -Like I said everyone makes mistakes.

Can I ask you what do your kids watch?? Can they ever watch TV or read any books other than Bible??
"And pooh quite clearly has sexual feelings for piglet. I remember with horror a story where pooh got stuck "in a hole" and piglet had to "pull him". "
And you obviously have a twisted mind then if that is how you read it. I'm sorry although it is not my fault!

...But yea I know I'm not a "true Christian" so I can't say much about God although I believe in him.... I'm still not as twisted as some people here.

[Catherine Moore]

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We are aware of how Finland treated the Eskimos I am amazed by your nerve in referencing it, to be honest.

[Just A Girl]

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Sweetie I'm sorry to tell you put Finland has never killed Eskimos... Not like Americans slaved black people.... In Lapland there still are some "eskimos" but they have integrated into sociaty... They did not die... Finns are not as brutal as you think...
Oh how I wish I could show you Finland although I know you don't want to see it

[Noah Sole]

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Sister Catherine is not a 'Sweetie' she is a social worker, show some respect.

You seem to have ignored my post - you need to introduce yourself.

YIC

[Just A Girl]

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I am just a person who has lived in Finland for several years just like I have in the US. I am not part of Baptist church but I have attended their Sunday school several times. I believe in God but not as strongly as you guys do. That is all I can say.
I guess it's no use to say a word on this web site because you guys will put down everything I say without even thinking about it. I just wish you guys were more understanding but I have a feeling we will never agree on anything at all.

[Noah Sole]

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I am just a person who has lived in Finland for several years just like I have in the US. I am not part of Baptist church but I have attended their Sunday school several times. I believe in God but not as strongly as you guys do. That is all I can say.
I guess it's no use to say a word on this web site because you guys will put down everything I say without even thinking about it. I just wish you guys were more understanding but I have a feeling we will never agree on anything at all.

You need to understand our apprehensions, we get a lot of loonies, trolls and the like here just to mock us, condemn us or just be damn rude.

We insist on a proper introduction so that we can get to know you first. You won't be 'put down' without good reason.

So what is your favourite Bible verse?

YIC

Noah