[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So please, do tell me where in the hell Jesus said this in the New Testament, since that's what the piffle we're all supposed to live by.

What is it Jesus did not say? I'm having difficulty following your argument.

YIC

[Homo Twitch]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So please, do tell me where in the hell Jesus said this in the New Testament, since that's what the piffle we're all supposed to live by.

[Homo Twitch]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

wow....I have two cousins who are autistic. The can't understand normal social and societial cues and standards. Most don't speak. They play with technology because it's something their brain understands. The brain is likened to the memory/hard drive of a computer. Their brains are the equivalent of what IBM's used to be, so it understands what is like itself. They aren't selfish, they are degenerate because of birth defects, not by choice. Maybe some of you do deserve to be shot, and maybe they are in a way god's messengers, sent to send scum like yourselves to the place you fear most. You mock those who are different than you. Judge those who's lifestyles are different from yours. You all go against what your God and your Savior taught you. They taught love, and all you do is hate.

[Homo Twitch]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Practically all of you are the most retarded people on here....you are all hate mongerers. Why would some one choose to retarded....like REALLY. And anyone who says that being gay and being retarded are lifestyle choices, is also fucking retarded. Being a vegan or a vegetarian or even a christian is a lifestyle choice. Next you people are going to say that being black is lifestyle choice. I am a gay man and I am proud to be such. My question to you guys, if sexuality was a choice, when did you choose to be straight, or for all of you, when did you choose to not be retarded? You all need to listen to Christ's teaching, you know, from when he was ALIVE, you know, like in the New Testiment. You guys pick and choose your scriptures, but how many of you women wear blue jeans, or how many of you wear polyester or nylon cloths, or eat catfish/bottom-dwelling fish, or eat animals without cloven hoves, and also how many of you married a woman who wasn't a virgin? You can't cherry pick your views. You either live by Christ's teachings as a whole.

The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.

Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).

Now all of you, from a Wiccan to Hatemongering Christians, May the Gods have mercy on your souls. *Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt not put any other GODS before me. Proving there that the big G acknowledges the existence of other beings like himself.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

You can't tell me that this creature is human. The retardeds are demons every one!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

First off, this just pisses me the piffle off. I'm atheist but from my YEARS of going to church i have learned that Jesus loved ALL. If you are too stupid to see what is written in all of Jesus's work, then you surely are not "Blessed" by him. People with Down Syndrom do not choose their condition, they are born with it and deserve our understanding, and I bet Jesus would have loved them; because that is what he did, loved.

Now lets talk about hippies. I was born in Berkeley so I know a few, and most of them are pretty dedicated Christians. They are the best Christians I have ever met, and what Jesus would want his following to be: peaceful, down to earth people, which clearly the majority of the posters I've seen on here are not.

Homosexuality and Down syndrome is like your hair, in the sense that you cannot control what color it naturally is because it is determined by genes; which is scientifically proven by the majority of scientists. Your Ignorance and bigotry is no excuse to treat nice people like shit because they are not Christian enough for you.

I dont want to start a flame war here, so let me just close with one thing. Love life, and love others.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[UpForADebate]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Life is really easy. Obey God and you go to Heaven. Unfortunately liberal atheist Nazis are finding ways to make everything needlessly complicated. If you repeat something nonsensical over and over again, simple minded people start believing it. A well known example is homosexuals. More and more people believe that being gay is not a choice but something people are born with. Completely ridiculous of course.

Fortunately there are always decent Christian people who are working on fixing these common misconceptions. Take Michele Bachmann's husband Marcus Bachmann for example. He has created the Christian counseling clinic where homosexuals can get cured from their disease by praying the gay away. Of course the liberal media is twisting this into claims that Marcus Bachmann himself is gay. This is utterly ridiculous as it would be impossible to become gay while you are married to a nice Christian lady like Michele Bachmann. There has been some debate on the $137,000 tax money Michele Bachmann allocated to her husbands business, but clearly we are talking about a Godly mission here, well worth some hard earned American tax dollars.

But we have a bigger problem here. Most people recognize that being gay is just a filthy choice, comparable with choosing to become a hippie vegan or a vegetarian child rapist. Unfortunately only few people recognize that down syndrome is also a lifestyle choice!

Down syndrome has been invented by people who are too lazy to study, too lazy to work and even too lazy to wipe their own butts. By acting like complete idiots they avoid scrutiny and get passed all checks in our system to receive free care and free money without ever having to do anything to actually deserve all that. Parents who are too lazy to properly raise their children teach their children to behave like drooling idiots so they no longer have to fulfill their parental duties.

No doubt some liberal atheists will start screaming that being gay isn't a lifestyle choice, down syndrome isn't a lifestyle choice and being vegan isn't a lifestyle choice. Fortunately it is easy to prove that down syndrome is indeed nothing but a lifestyle choice! Most people choosing down syndrome are too lazy to have children. But those who do have children, always have children who are also choosing this lifestyle. Not different from hippie parents having hippie children, where being a hippie is also clearly a lifestyle choice. At least until some idiot liberal God mocker starts claiming that all hippies have a genetic disease forcing them to smoke pot.

Unfortunately the misconception that down syndrome is not a lifestyle will be hard to fight. Parents having their children trained to behave like drooling idiots will refuse to cooperate because they are simply to lazy to properly raise their children. The solution here is to punish both the parents and the children. All of them should be put to work in labor camps. Also every medical and government program aimed at wasting money on these people should be terminated immediately.

Michele Bachmann has already promised that she will solve all our economic problems in at most a week once she becomes president. This will no doubt be one of her ways to achieve that.

First off, this just pisses me the fuck off. I'm atheist but from my YEARS of going to church i have learned that Jesus loved ALL. If you are too stupid to see what is written in all of Jesus's work, then you surely are not "Blessed" by him. People with Down Syndrom do not choose their condition, they are born with it and deserve our understanding, and I bet Jesus would have loved them; because that is what he did, loved.

Now lets talk about hippies. I was born in Berkeley so I know a few, and most of them are pretty dedicated Christians. They are the best Christians I have ever met, and what Jesus would want his following to be: peaceful, down to earth people, which clearly the majority of the posters I've seen on here are not.

Homosexuality and Down syndrome is like your hair, in the sense that you cannot control what color it naturally is because it is determined by genes; which is scientifically proven by the majority of scientists. Your Ignorance and bigotry is no excuse to treat nice people like shit because they are not Christian enough for you.

I dont want to start a flame war here, so let me just close with one thing. Love life, and love others.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Surely babies haven't made any lifestyle choices yet.

Explain this little fag to me then.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

then why do they all have ..etc

There were a couple of points in your thread. Firstly, these demoniacs are occupied by devils. Many "symptoms" are described in The Bible and the cause is demon possession. So: how does the face come to look as it does without elective surgery? answer: it is done by demons.

The Bible also describes how Jesus casts out the demons and how the cure is instant. It is obviously necessary to accept Jesus' ministry of exorcism for that to happen.

Illnesses are also described in The Bible. The two are discinct. Jesus also heals the sick and that is not exorcism because the person was not demon possessed. Sometimes a person is recorded as both demon possessed and ill. All these facts have been covered repeatedly.

Another point is the "choice" bit. The Bible is clear that choices resulting in demon possession are often made by parents or grandparents, great-grandparents and so on back to ten generations or even earlier in some cases.

If you had read The Bible you would know that. It is stated frequently.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

If they are not getting elective surgery, then why do they all have that similar, characteristic Downs "look"? (Do Google image search if you don't know what I mean.) If it wasn't surgery, then did evil deform their faces? Or might they have been born that way? Maybe we should see if we can find pictures of babies with Downs who have the "look". Surely babies haven't made any lifestyle choices yet.

What makes you say that children don't make lifestyle choices?

Are you seriously suggesting that this behavior is not a choice!?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So if a mongoloid baby repents her sins, she will be cured?

That's what the Good Book tells us.

James 5:13-16
13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So if a mongoloid baby repents her sins, she will be cured?

If she is the sinner who brought about the LORD's message, then yes. If she is the child, grandchild, or great-grandchild of the sinner, then the LORD's curse is upon her for His glory (Numbers 14:18).

[Estreya]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So if a mongoloid baby repents her sins, she will be cured?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

If they are not getting elective surgery, then why do they all have that similar, characteristic Downs "look"? (Do Google image search if you don't know what I mean.) If it wasn't surgery, then did evil deform their faces? Or might they have been born that way? Maybe we should see if we can find pictures of babies with Downs who have the "look". Surely babies haven't made any lifestyle choices yet.

Perhaps the LORD puts a mark on them (those Mongoloid faces), as a loving message to repent and seek Salvation(c).

[Estreya]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Elective surgery? That's just silly!

If they are not getting elective surgery, then why do they all have that similar, characteristic Downs "look"? (Do Google image search if you don't know what I mean.) If it wasn't surgery, then did evil deform their faces? Or might they have been born that way? Maybe we should see if we can find pictures of babies with Downs who have the "look". Surely babies haven't made any lifestyle choices yet.