[buckhenry]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I cannot believe you consider a genetic disorder a "lifestyle choice".

Downies don't want to have down syndrome, they just have a genetic disorder that impairs them for life.

Speaking of "lifestyle choices" I believe your next choice should be one of fashion! And I have just the hat for you!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I cannot believe you consider a genetic disorder a "lifestyle choice".

Downies don't want to have down syndrome, they just have a genetic disorder that impairs them for life.

The point you have has been addressed numerous times. I have included Scripture in my earlier responses; where is your Scriptural support?

Choices made by, for example, great-great-grandparents blast future progeny and the curse recipients are really very easy to identify. Are you suggesting that God's curses are make believe?

[ConcernedNumbskull]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I cannot believe you consider a genetic disorder a "lifestyle choice".

Downies don't want to have down syndrome, they just have a genetic disorder that impairs them for life.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

blah blah blah Nothing you can say or do will convince them otherwise.

AMEN!!!



My faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ is unwavering!!!

(1 Corinthians 15:58) "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord."

[DemonThinker96]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I wonder if you people forget that things like this are diagnosed before a child even goes to school, therefore I Dont beleove a CHILD chooses to have down syndrome, let alone that the reason for down syndrome is an extra chromosome, which ACTUALLY MAKES THEM SMARTER THAN MOST PEOPLE. The only problem is that the body cannot handle this extra chromosome so it makes them they way they are. They are still capable people,

Not lazy, as you demonize them to be

I Dont know where you're getting that they are stupid and incompetent. I guess backwards white radical Christians will always be white radical ***profanity removed by moderator*** christans *shrugs*

Don't bother using logic on these people. They'll just use their book of fairy tales to back up their insane views. Nothing you can say or do will convince them otherwise.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I wonder if you people forget that things like this are diagnosed before a child even goes to school, therefore ... bla bla bla

While the liberally biased public school system certainly makes children stupider, the downs syndrome faction of the leftist militant atheist community are more elite. They are selected by agent handlers to act as mind controlled assassins and target Christians for extermination in government controlled FEMA camps.

I hope you found this informative.

[mcl125]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I wonder if you people forget that things like this are diagnosed before a child even goes to school, therefore I Dont beleove a CHILD chooses to have down syndrome, let alone that the reason for down syndrome is an extra chromosome, which ACTUALLY MAKES THEM SMARTER THAN MOST PEOPLE. The only problem is that the body cannot handle this extra chromosome so it makes them they way they are. They are still capable people,

Not lazy, as you demonize them to be

I Dont know where you're getting that they are stupid and incompetent. I guess backwards white radical Christians will always be white radical ***profanity removed by moderator*** christans *shrugs*

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Exactly! Choosing to be mong (or being raised on the mong lifestyle) means you are disavowing all responsibility. You choose not to be responsible for yourself and instead offload the burden to Christians.

Being a mongoloid is actually en vogue in the atheist community. It is not even a disincentive to collecting government benefits. The main reason, I think, is that atheists are sexually attracted to mentally handicapped people. They enjoy the excitement of fornicating with someone who is incapable of consent. Giving handouts to mongoloids is like having a government subsidy on atheist porn.

I really don't get why it's so difficult for people to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Is it pride?

It has to be shame. The human mind was clearly not designed to live with itself notwithstanding Christ's forgiveness.

[GOD=life]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I've always believed that choosing to be a mong is a gateway sin to sodomania...or is it the other way around?
Oh well, damned is damned, in either case.

Exactly! Choosing to be mong (or being raised on the mong lifestyle) means you are disavowing all responsibility. You choose not to be responsible for yourself and instead offload the burden to Christians.

I really don't get why it's so difficult for people to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Is it pride?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I've always believed that choosing to be a mong is a gateway sin to sodomania...or is it the other way around?
Oh well, damned is damned, in either case.

That might depend on the language skills? If the impulse could be explained to be sinful, then persistence would be wilful. But if the concept of sin could not be understood, its origin with Eve and its transmission by Adam, then I suppose it could explained that such behaviour is simply wrong. Others not having language at all might be punished until the activity ceased.

But would that be appropriate? Many secularists reject punishment as a learning aid altogether and recommend reward for good behaviour alone, with misdeeds being overlooked, but that is not an approach found anywhere in The Bible.

Proverbs 20:30 – 21:4 KJV
The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly. The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will. Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts. To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.

Humanist laws have rendered punishments causing injury illegal. Beating or whipping children is declared to be wrong even if there is no injury. Therefore, in their delusion, whipping Jesus could have no effect on someone born 2,000 years later and it follows that whipping Jesus would have no effect on Him either. Other than to cause pain. But His suffering would just be suffering and someone living in China—even at the time—would enjoy no more choices than had been available the day before. No opportunity for Salvation, in other words. That is not what The Bible teaches.

The Bible is plain: Jesus’ suffering, in particular the stripes of that dreadful whip, is the means by which Redemption became available to everyone accepting His death as the price paid for their sins.

I Peter 2:21b-24 KJV
Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Was Jesus murdered for no reason? Is Christianity no more than murder cult built up from genocide and murder in The Promised Land, subsequent murders of those following other religions and incineration of their priests, pointless murder of children for no apparent reason over the millennia and culminating in a baby being born in Bethlehem explicitly for the purpose of being murdered?

To the secularist it must be so. Whipping people has no good effect EVER in their universe, beating children to the point of injury, is ALWAYS disgusting they must say.

The Bible disagrees.

Since the secular left insists that Downs Syndrome is neither a lifestyle choice nor a curse from the Creator, they must hold the position that it is an evolutionary adaptation. This only proves that liberals aspire to Downs Syndrome and adopt it as a lifestyle choice when they are able to. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Proverbs 13:22-24 KJV
A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. Much food is in the tillage of the poor: but there is that is destroyed for want of judgment. He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

The point you raised about evolution, Mr Jenkins, seems to be reflected in verse 22. We know that curses are handed down through the generations and we also know that the reason is because God has said so. God not only perpetuates curses, a product of sin, but also blessings. Therefore inheritance need not be in terms of food only. Without God those secular types are at a loss to explain the circumstances we see all around us and need to invent something else. They propose a system of maladaptations with the weak weeded out and the strong surviving. Unfortunately for them "strong" must mean "most brutal" but their words float in a vacuum with no foundation. How unlike the Perfect Love of God by whose word we are sustained. And how could any of this be explained to someone without sufficient language to understand His mercy?

Proverbs 13:22-24 KJV
[Jesus speaking] It is written† Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
† Deuteronomy 8:3

[Witch Hammer]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

This firmly intellectual piece of analysis is still valid several later.

There are STILL no laws against Downuality. I understand Republicans are working on what appears to be the losing battle against Sodomoid marriage, but please spend some time on this growing problem too!

I've always believed that choosing to be a mong is a gateway sin to sodomania...or is it the other way around?
Oh well, damned is damned, in either case.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Since the secular left insists that Downs Syndrome is neither a lifestyle choice nor a curse from the Creator, they must hold the position that it is an evolutionary adaptation. This only proves that liberals aspire to Downs Syndrome and adopt it as a lifestyle choice when they are able to. Quod erat demonstrandum.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

There are degrees of the characteristics associated with these particular demoniacs as so clearly they are presented in The Bible. Liberals might describe them as a spectrum disorders or as degrees of mosaicism where different cells have different genotypes. Tomorrow they will have a different explanation. Yesterday they had something else. The choices resulting in such outcomes have been shown throughout the thread, supported by Scripture, and we know that as His sheep we are protected.

John 10:1-5 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Who is the shepherd of the Down syndrome afflicted? Who calleth them by name, and leadeth them out? No-one. They remain afflicted. In many cases they cannot even understand His voice. Language is central in our understanding of God's Plan and without words how could the catastrophe of Eve's disobedience or of the need for Redemption ever be understood?

Psalm 95:1-8 KJV
O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation. Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto him with psalms. For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods. In his hand are the deep places of the earth: the strength of the hills is his also. The sea is his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry land. O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker. For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

Whether the choices resulting in this affliction were made by one's parents or one's grandparents is immaterial here. The choice has been made. The affliction is present. And perhaps God's voice might be heard but without sufficient language skills how can it ever be understood? Why, in the mind of one not having language, should we kneel before The LORD our maker when they have no comprehension of what that means? One might as well say "oogle boogle zits kbang (now kneel down)" and no such possibility is mentioned anywhere in The Bible. God's sheep understand His voice. Understand what they have been redeemed from.

Are Christians mere automata who kneel at one command, dance at another, sing psalms or declare God's greatness by rote with no understanding of the words they prate? The Bible does not say so, very much the opposite:

Psalm 119:130 KJV
The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

Jesus delivered many afflicted individuals who subsequently acknowledged what He had done for them but until they had been redeemed from their afflictions they were excluded from the congregation of The LORD and so we know that demon possessed examples who remain without language have not been delivered. They cannot understand the Shepherd's voice. Their characteristics have been explained BY GOD in The Bible, have not changed, and whatever bizarre logic is cooked up to contradict The Bible does not alter what it says.

Disobedience (by Eve, emulated by Adam) admitted all sorts of demons (described in The Bible by our Creator with no mention whatsoever of genetic disorders or mosaic affliction of some cells but not others or of innate inability to understand the message of SIN and SALVATION having any cause other than by DEMONS which is spelled out rather clearly) and without language how can Redemption ever be comprehended?

Ezekiel 28:15 KJV
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Secularists do need to address this. Explanations from the medical professions contradict The Bible, contradict the FACT explained BY GOD that this results from CHOICE and opens a gateway to doubts which no Christian would ever entertain. If God is wrong about mental defects He might just be wrong about other things.

The Bible tells us that He is not.

[GOD=life]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

This firmly intellectual piece of analysis is still valid several later.

There are STILL no laws against Downuality. I understand Republicans are working on what appears to be the losing battle against Sodomoid marriage, but please spend some time on this growing problem too!

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I made a typo. I meant to say not all women are born sluts.

You may be right (though that is highly unlikely). I suppose it is slightly possible (fell through the cracks) one was not born a filthy whore.

However, I am just a man. As I pointed out, God says otherwise in the Holy Bible and He is the Creator and the Supreme Being.