[Redeemed Papist]

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Everyone would go to hell. But believing in Jesus and repenting of your sins does not allow the soul to perish forever.

You can believe in Jesus all you like. You're still going to burn unless you do as God says!

Matthew 7:21-27
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

[Compassion]

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Jesus said we should love our neighbour. Should I hate my neighbour if he is gay? I don't think Jesus would want me to discriminate against people because of the way they live their lives. I feel that I can love an atheist, or a Muslim, or a homosexual the same way that I can love a Christian, or an upright citizen. Even if I don't agree with their choices or views, I can still help them feel and try to understand God's infinite, unconditional love and compassion by giving my own to everyone regardless of who they are, what they have done, or how they choose to live their lives. I can love a criminal on death row; I can forgive him his crimes. So why can I not love the atheists, and the homosexuals, and the misguided youth of our time? There is no reason that I can think of. Maybe if we all loved them and showed them compassion, they would understand how God can love them too, if they follow His path.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Jesus said we should love our neighbour. Should I hate my neighbour if he is gay? I don't think Jesus would want me to discriminate against people because of the way they live their lives. I feel that I can love an atheist, or a Muslim, or a homosexual the same way that I can love a Christian, or an upright citizen. Even if I don't agree with their choices or views, I can still help them feel and try to understand God's infinite, unconditional love and compassion by giving my own to everyone regardless of who they are, what they have done, or how they choose to live their lives. I can love a criminal on death row; I can forgive him his crimes. So why can I not love the atheists, and the homosexuals, and the misguided youth of our time? There is no reason that I can think of. Maybe if we all loved them and showed them compassion, they would understand how God can love them too, if they follow His path.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

There's every reason! God has instructed it. Making up something that makes you feel good has no validity next to a direct command from God.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

[Compassion]

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2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

There's every reason! God has instructed it. Making up something that makes you feel good has no validity next to a direct command from God.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

I don't understand how you are using the first quotation.
When is it too late for redemption? I believe that your last chance is always here on Earth. So while we're here, I will try to help and love others. Maybe he is an atheist homosexual now, but after I show him God's light, he could become a good, upright Christian. I don't believe that there is any reason for me not to show love to someone.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I don't understand how you are using the first quotation.
When is it too late for redemption? I believe that your last chance is always here on Earth. So while we're here, I will try to help and love others. Maybe he is an atheist homosexual now, but after I show him God's light, he could become a good, upright Christian. I don't believe that there is any reason for me not to show love to someone.

Is it showing love to lie to someone that they aren't an abomination when they are?

[Compassion]

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Is it showing love to lie to someone that they aren't an abomination when they are?

I'm not saying that what they are doing isn't wrong. It is very wrong. What I try to do is help them realize why they shouldn't do it, and why they should open themselves to God. It is showing love to take the time and effort to try to forgive and redeem one of those who have strayed from the true path.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I'm not saying that what they are doing isn't wrong. It is very wrong. What I try to do is help them realize why they shouldn't do it, and why they should open themselves to God. It is showing love to take the time and effort to try to forgive and redeem one of those who have strayed from the true path.

Yes and that's best achieved by confronting them with the glory of God's word and applying God's law wherever possible. Those queers would soon stop bumming each other if they were facing a hideous death under law. And once we have true Biblical law as our Republicans and Conservatives promise...

[Compassion]

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Yes and that's best achieved by confronting them with the glory of God's word and applying God's law wherever possible. Those queers would soon stop bumming each other if they were facing a hideous death under law. And once we have true Biblical law as our Republicans and Conservatives promise...

Sure, they would stop. Just like people stop smoking marijuana because it is illegal, or killing people, or doing all those things you can read about in the paper...
What I'm trying to say is that having a law against it won't stop them. Showing them love, compassion, and trying to turn them to the good side and seek forgiveness and redemption will stop them.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Sure, they would stop. Just like people stop smoking marijuana because it is illegal, or killing people, or doing all those things you can read about in the paper...
What I'm trying to say is that having a law against it won't stop them. Showing them love, compassion, and trying to turn them to the good side and seek forgiveness and redemption will stop them.

So God is wrong?

[Didymus Much]

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...Just like people stop smoking marijuana because it is illegal, or killing people, or doing all those things you can read about in the paper...

Please, find ONE death directly attributable to marijuana. Just one.

With all of those people overdosing on MJ all the time it should be easy, right? I mean, that's why it's illegal, right? Because it's so dangerous?

I'll give you $5, even.

Or shut the f*** up about shit you know nothing about. Thank you.

[Compassion]

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So God is wrong?

Did God say: "Those queers would soon stop bumming each other if they were facing a hideous death under law."?
No, you did. And no matter how pious any of us is, we are not God, and our words are not His.
So no, God's not wrong. You are wrong.

And for someone who's name says "Redeemed Papist", you sure do have a big problem with people redeeming themselves. Why can't we all share in God's love? What makes you so special that you can redeem yourself, but others can't?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Did God say: "Those queers would soon stop bumming each other if they were facing a hideous death under law."?
No, you did. And no matter how pious any of us is, we are not God, and our words are not His.
So no, God's not wrong. You are wrong.

And for someone who's name says "Redeemed Papist", you sure do have a big problem with people redeeming themselves. Why can't we all share in God's love? What makes you so special that you can redeem yourself, but others can't?

God says gays should be killed. True or false?

[Compassion]

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Please, find ONE death directly attributable to marijuana. Just one.

With all of those people overdosing on MJ all the time it should be easy, right? I mean, that's why it's illegal, right? Because it's so dangerous?

I'll give you $5, even.

Or shut the f*** up about shit you know nothing about. Thank you.

Will you give me money to point out that you completely misunderstood me? I was saying that:
-even though marijuana is illegal, people still use it
-even though murder is illegal, people still do it
-even though all those other things are illegal, people still do it
-so how will a law against homosexuality stop people from being gay?
And just so you know, I am pro-marijuana.

Redeemed Papist:
Leviticus is the law of the Levites, and being an ancient law, has little bearing on present law. Do you eat pork? Do you isolate your wife during her menstrual cycle?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Redeemed Papist:
Leviticus is the law of the Levites, and being an ancient law, has little bearing on present law. Do you eat pork? Do you isolate your wife during her menstrual cycle?

Whoops! My wife isolates herself, thank you. I'm not some crazy Joo!

Romans 1:27-32
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Look, friend, I know you like to think things but it's far better to know things.

Queers are in the same bracket as murderers and people who disobey their parents!

[Compassion]

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Whoops! My wife isolates herself, thank you. I'm not some crazy Joo!

Romans 1:27-32
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Look, friend, I know you like to think things but it's far better to know things.

Queers are in the same bracket as murderers and people who disobey their parents!

I bet you 5000 internet dollars that you have disobeyed your parents. So that means you would be in the same bracket as queers and murderers. "They which commit such things are worthy of death,"

Better run, man, the Christians are gonna be after you.