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  • #16
    Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords!

    Notice any similarities?

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    • #17
      Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords!

      I'm working on a Grand Unifying Theory of the Culture War. Among other things it will probably explain why so many battlefields of the culture war are restaurants.
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      • #18
        Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords!

        Originally posted by Jeb Stuart Thurmond View Post

        The Nanny Race

        ...the poor babies can't be expected to do any better. Related to "The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations".
        Or, The Angel Race, because whites are held up to such high standards relative to other skin colors.

        Related is the hatred of "Western Civilization" and/or "capitalism", also known as "the only culture and economic system to ever exist at this level of scale and advancement." Is there some other space-age globally-dominant-for-centuries paradigm that you are comparing us to?

        David Wong on this tendency, when expanded to humanity as a whole:
        Obviously, a thing can only be good or bad compared to another thing. "People are trash" makes no sense, because collectively, these are the only people who exist. So they're trash compared to what? What better version of humanity are you using as your standard?
        All you're revealing about yourself with this worldview is that you've spent so little time around actual, flawed people that you've set a standard for behavior that makes sense only in your imagination. It's the equivalent of a guy getting upset that his real girlfriend doesn't live up to the anime girl on his body pillow.
        No real woman is as perfect as this.


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        • #19
          Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords!

          Originally posted by Jeb Stuart Thurmond View Post
          .
          Culture War Mercenaries - previously "social justice activists". Explained here.

          ...their pay and status depends on us always fighting, regardless of our actual goals. In fact, winning puts them out of a job. So they get us into fights we don't need to be in, prevent us from reaching agreements when we can, and make conflicts longer and costlier than they need to be. They are fear-mongers, always pointing at some far-off, irrelevant, powerless and near-impoverished bogeyman, and then declaring them to be the next Hitler. When someone's job depends on conflict, how can they be convinced that there is only one race, the human race?


          I've been plagiarized by The New Republic, which now admits that democrats need to keep the race-war going, because democrats don't want the working class to unite:
          ...What would happen if, by a snap of the fingers, white racism in America were to disappear? It might be that the black and Latino working class would be voting for Trump, too. Then we Democrats would have no chance in 2020. We often tell ourselves: “Oh, we lost just the white working class because of race.” But the truth might be something closer to this: “It’s only because of race[ism] that we have any part of the working class turning out for us at all.”
          Also:
          For those of us cut off from the white working class, it is easy to think the answer to inequality is: Imitate us. Why can’t they be like we are?...explains why newly liberated ex-Communist countries turned away from liberal democracies to authoritarian or illiberal ones. Imitate us—be like we are—turns out to be one of the most grating forms of foreign policy on offer in a world of such great income inequality. But imitate us is also grating within a country...
          Sounds like what I was writing about in: What was worse than Invading Iraq? Liberals invading America!

          In another part of the forest, here's someone calling the media "Culture War Arms-Dealers", back in 2018:
          When your entire job is to get clicks, and you’ll starve if you don’t get them, you get those damn clicks any way you can. Which means you find the culture war, wherever it’s happening, and you feed it. You feed it argument fodder. You feed it virtue signals. You feed it whatever it needs to keep warring. The modern media have abandoned measured, reasoned thought, and have shifted to a new job.
          They are Culture War Arms Dealers.
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          • #20
            Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! New political terms! Get buzzy with new buzzwords!

            Originally posted by Jeb Stuart Thurmond View Post
            Physical Terrorist - previously known as "terrorists", these are people who exploit laws so they are treated as noncombatants even as they engage in physical violence. Related: ActualFa - Previously "AntiFa"

            Social Terrorist - people who use terrorist tactics short of actual physical violence. They use Rhetorical Human Shields - "criticism of my ideas is an attack on all brown people". They do character assassination, not just on politicians, but on noncombatants/non-politicians/non-public figures. They demand pity privilege.
            Here social terrorism is called "Reputational violence":



            I don't like the idea of muddying the water re: definition of "violence". "Terrorism" on the other hand, obviously means the use of terror.

            Does the left want terror? Let's ask Ezra Klein of Vox who says that men should "feel a cold spike of fear when they begin a sexual encounter." because of "a haze of fear and confusion over what counts as consent".
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            • #21
              Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

              Here's a serious Wokish-to-English dictionary that puts all my amateur work to shame.
              This encyclopedia of Social Justice terminology exists for a simple purpose: to create in one place a first attempt to pierce the fog and expose the language used by the ideology of Social Justice in plain language so that people can better understand what it is, what it wants, and how it operates in practice.
              Trojan Horse Terms
              ...in Social Justice’s usage, everyday terms have been redefined in specific, which is a strategic move that allows the common parlance understanding of the term to open the door and be a defensible point of retreat while the specific meaning of the term is allowed to do the real work desired of them by Social Justice activists. (We refer to such terms as “Trojan Horse” terms.)
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              • #22
                Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                Liberal elites and Antifa terrorists always want to gussy up their language with euphemisms. Why can't they just call a spade a spade?
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                • #23
                  Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                  In one of their topics they linked to Stanford, as follows:
                  https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/critical-theory/ —Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School...
                  I've heard quite enough about "Marxism" for one lifetime and do wonder whether its proponents ever contemplated why such a bankrupt theory got off the ground in the first place. What combination of circumstances launched radicals to the forefront of movers & shakers? Why upon reading The Communist Manifesto in 1848 did anyone at all think “Mmmmmmm, nice..” (other than Marx himself) and then in Russia rather than London where the wretched pamphlet was published?

                  Exactly what you would expect to happen is precisely what did happen over the next century and a half with poverty and oppression directly proportional to the extent that Marxist theory was applied. Justice of any sort was eradicated and those who experienced its facsimile were themselves a manifestation of social injustice on a Herculean scale. Marxism is the last place to look for justice.

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                  • #24
                    (my previous post was replying to Jeb Thurmond's post #21)

                    Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                    Liberal elites and Antifa terrorists always want to gussy up their language with euphemisms.
                    This is another thing which puzzles me. Here are two pictures:

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                    The euphemism would be cultural appropriation. Or would it?


                    When you adopt traditional clothing from a different culture:
                    .tick
                    .box

                    YES • I am a boorish Philistine pig dog

                    NO • I can wear whatever I want to

                    THAT'S RACIST • Philistine society was actually quite refined


                    If foreign gents adopt traditional clothing from your culture:
                    .tick
                    .box

                    NO • of course not don't be ridiculous

                    YES • they are trying to steal your identity

                    MARX • demands the proletariat be free from diktat by imperialist overlords


                    Can you see my puzzlement? On the one hand we hear about cultural appropriation everywhere, from a hairdo (such as dreadlocks) to footwear (moccasins?) yet when visiting tropical islands they're flogging you grass skirts and garlands while wearing the latest gear from western surf shops. Who is appropriating whom?

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                    • #25
                      Re: (my previous post was replying to Jeb Thurmond's post #21)

                      Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                      This is another thing which puzzles me.
                      It's only puzzling because we're overthinking it. The left also had a problem with overthinking, and with infighting, until they solved it with these simple rules:
                      Rule 1: If an gang member is in a dispute with a non-gang member, everybody beats up the non-gang member, no questions asked. (Buzzword: intersectionality).

                      Rule 2: To prevent infighting, keep the hierarchy. In any dispute, the higher-ranking gang member is always right and the lower-ranking one is always wrong, no questions asked. (Buzzword: punching up)

                      Rule 3: No questions asked. (Buzzword: lived experience, other ways of knowing)
                      And that's it. that's all you need to know about power, and therefore all you need to know about how the left functions.
                      So, let's apply the 3 commandments to a Chinese person wearing non-Chinese clothes. Rule 2 says keep the hierarchy with no questions asked. Chinese people outrank white people, therefore rules that apply to white people don't apply to them. Unless a mob of white people wants to burn down a Chinese restaurant in support of BLM. In that case, BLM outranks the Chinese person, and the restaurant burns.

                      And if the Chinese person asks how a mob of white people burning a Chinese restaurant is supposed to stop white supremacy, refer to rule 1. Gang members fight the outsider, no questions asked.
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                      • #26
                        Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                        I see When I was looking for a picture of a nice suit I happened to get a picture of Mr Khrushchev [LEFT] several pictures actually, many with a smart tie and stylish hat.

                        Not knowing much about ancient history I looked him up and apparently he exemplifies what you've described. Punching up (?) to knock down Stalin's reputation, attempting to remove Stalinist ideas from Russia (which essentially means only murdering thousands rather than millions) but then, when he was due for criticism himself, needed to be reassigned somehow. Enter Brezhnev to dislodge him with misery all 'round except for suitably advanced officials who took over the palaces and got the fast cars. Otherwise it was the secret police and a trip to Siberia for anyone suggesting maybe communism was out of date or there were other ways of knowing..



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                        • #27
                          Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          Punching up (?) to knock down Stalin's reputation,
                          As a southern ethnic minority(Georgian), Stalin outranks Khrushchev. So Krusty was punching down.*

                          If Crimean Tatars and/or other Muslims wanted to tear down his statues, that's punching up, because Muslims outrank Georgians.

                          But Krusty was not a Muslim, so he was being a bad "ally".

                          What is an "ally"?

                          The lowest-ranking member of a gang is called a "Prospect"
                          CycleFish: A Prospect is a person who would like to join the club but still needs to earn his patch....A prospect may have to engage in illegal activities in order to carry out the requests of the patch Members. A Prospect does not have voting rights...Prospects may be dealt menial tasks and have to endure some level of hazing by the club members.
                          In rougher gangs the "menial tasks" include serving as a literal punching bag at times.

                          The different between a gang prospect and an "ally" is that "allies" are by definition incapable of ever becoming members of the gang.


                          *On punching directions, you'll notice that some forms of identity and power are conspicuously absent from the hierarchy. Wealth/poverty/class are rarely mentioned, and only treated as a consequence of oppression, never a cause of it. The poorest white man in the world is still complicit in oppressing Carlos Slim. Never mind that Carlos Slim is the world's richest man - he's Mexican, making him powerless next to the world's poorest white guy.

                          At different scales, minority status is either irrelevant, then the only relevant thing, and then irrelevant again. White minority in your area? Irrelevant. White Majority in your nation? Important. Whites a minority globally? Irrelevant. Whites a powerless minority in the future? Important: the future is brown, now be a good ally and get used to being the grovelling powerless minority that your descendants will be for generations to come.

                          Men a minority on Campus? The future is female. Be a good ally and submit like the powerless minority you are.

                          Is your minority ethnic group blocked out of national media? Is bigotry to your minority ethnic group common and socially acceptable? Not oppression if your ethnic group is American.
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                          • #28
                            Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                            Originally posted by Jeb Stuart Thurmond View Post
                            As a southern ethnic minority
                            Correction: the word "minority" is no longer used and it will soon be hate speech to utter it:
                            ...avoiding the term “minority” (which binaries with “majority”) taps into the same issue. Other attempts to get around this refer to them as “minoritized groups,” which strategically ascribes the theorized power dynamics into the term and also circumvents the possibility that they would lose their oppressed status should they become a plurality or majority.
                            The current term is Person Of Color, as in, Stalin was a POC, at least relative to Krusty, anyway. However, "POC" might become hate speech also:
                            ...the term “people of color” is a way for white people to create a single identity group to be against, all of which is non-white, so they can proceed to ignore the legitimate racial variations therein (see also, BIPOC and erasure). That is, the term “people of color” is beginning to be theorized as yet another form of white supremacy.
                            This was my first thought when I heard POC, or it's earlier version, "African-American". Why would you want to be put in the same category as the world's most messed-up continent?

                            I think the same thought about replacing "Oriental" with "Asian": why would civilized Japanese people want to be put in the same category as Afghan savages?

                            But the whole point of a gang is to gang up, that is, to outnumber other people. Quality of people doesn't matter, it's all about raw cannon fodder.

                            Likewise, any admission of white identity is hate speech - gangs want to keep the "marks" isolated and therefore defenseless. Smaller ethnic identities like Polish or Scottish get tolerated, as long as white people stay divided into small groups.

                            But all of this is moot, because the whole point of problematics is to witch-hunt for whiffs of fascism, and if you wanted to do that to Stalin, you might want to talk about how he signed an alliance with Hitler in 1939, and was still trusting Hitler to keep the alliance even after Hitler had invaded in 1941.
                            Fascism: ...the Frankfurt School (Institute for Social Research) arose in the 1920s and 1930s specifically to do three things: explain the rise of fascism, on the one hand, explain why Marxism and communism didn’t work to prevent it, on the other, and agitate for social activism that would both prevent the rise of fascism in any of its forms while agitating for a communist-style revolution outside of the failed outline Marx had provided.
                            SJW oppose fascism because it's a rival. It's not about liberation, it's about killing the competition. Fascism is just a rival gang.
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                            • #29
                              Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                              ..er, binary is now a verb?

                              Thanks for the update.

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                              • #30
                                Re: The Demagogues Dictionary! A blistering blizzard of buzzwords!

                                Sanewashing

                                Attempts to take a crazy idea and make it seem sane. This is how we get "moderate Islamist" "democratic socialism" "mostly peaceful" riots and so on.

                                First seen here: "the liberal sanewashing of “defund police”..."

                                Fascism

                                The world's most versatile word. George Orwell:







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