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  • James Hutchins
    True Christian™
    Just a Regular Nice Guy
     
    • Jun 2009
    • 29433

    #271
    Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

    Originally posted by SimplyEqual View Post
    How does that make sense in any way?!

    The length of my post has nothing to do with the use of any drug both perscribed nor recreational!

    And I made it quite clear that I'm open for any stable view!

    Really, continue, you have me all wrong, I simply love debates!

    Thank you for the sensical reply, now please, show evidence.
    Originally posted by SimplyEqual View Post
    Well if you open a thread labeled Is Marijuana a sin, I expect to find relevant information.

    I didn't turn this into a debate, I just jumped in when it started looking like one.

    You're still digressing.
    Confused, young fella? Did you read the instruction manual like I suggest long ago? Do you still wonder whay I said
    "Your long ranting post is a perfect example why drugs should be avoided unless prescribed by a doctor."
    Think, friend. If you are an idiot, you do not need to convince us of the fact.
    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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    • SimplySimpleminded
      Unsaved trash, Papist teenaged God mocker
      • Jul 2009
      • 14

      #272
      Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

      Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
      Confused, young fella? Did you read the instruction manual like I suggest long ago? Do you still wonder whay I said
      Think, friend. If you are an idiot, you do not need to convince us of the fact.

      Well thanks to that infraction, I had to wait 10 minutes to reply. :/

      And yes, I'll admit that I did not read every single post in this thread, because I was sure it would be upsettingly boring.

      And I confess, I was wrong.

      It was absolutely hilarious.

      A majority of the individuals who replied anti-marijuana had pre-conceived characteristics for the 'stoners' in relevence, questionable morals, and all opinions expressed were unsupported.

      I won't judge the entire forum, but this thread sure is a joke.

      You group of baptists have the most unChristian-like etiquette I have ever noted.

      It's hilarious that you doubt my connection to Christ at all.

      Are you gonna whip out some support yet? Because I finally read the entire thread, and it all boiled down to,

      "Anything that is harmful to the body is a sin" (true)

      "Weed has no negative effects on the body, at all." (true)

      "...Yeah, well...I HAVE A BIBLE!! So, HA!" (wait, what?)

      You're rebuttal doesn't even exist.

      Comment

      • Wide-Open
        Director of European Evangelical Outreach
        A Shining Example of Christ's Love
        Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
        True Christian™
        • Nov 2007
        • 18449

        #273
        Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

        Oh for crying out loud!

        Matthew 22:21
        They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

        We have to obey secular law, period.

        Now go insult someone else.
        Psalm 81:10:
        I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
        open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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        • SimplySimpleminded
          Unsaved trash, Papist teenaged God mocker
          • Jul 2009
          • 14

          #274
          Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

          Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
          Oh for crying out loud!

          Matthew 22:21
          They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

          We have to obey secular law, period.

          Now go insult someone else.
          SEE??

          Now we're gettin somewhere!

          That's all I wanted, just plausible evidence!

          The verse seems relevant, I'm just not comprehending it completely.

          Hope it's not asking too much, but could you break that down for me?

          I'm not trying to insult anybody, I'm just being honest, it's hard not to sound crude when responding to such questionable content from your fellow baptist's replies. For real, go back and take a review, you guys made some weird points.

          Comment

          • James Hutchins
            True Christian™
            Just a Regular Nice Guy
             
            • Jun 2009
            • 29433

            #275
            Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

            Nice to do a quote, leaving out the parts you did not like. Typical

            I'll repeat it die to your short attention span.
            Originally Posted by SimplyEqual
            How does that make sense in any way?!

            The length of my post has nothing to do with the use of any drug both perscribed nor recreational!

            And I made it quite clear that I'm open for any stable view!

            Really, continue, you have me all wrong, I simply love debates!

            Thank you for the sensical reply, now please, show evidence.
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by SimplyEqual
            Well if you open a thread labeled Is Marijuana a sin, I expect to find relevant information.

            I didn't turn this into a debate, I just jumped in when it started looking like one.

            You're still digressing.

            My response to the above:
            Confused, young fella? Did you read the instruction manual like I suggest long ago? Do you still wonder whay I said
            Quote:
            "Your long ranting post is a perfect example why drugs should be avoided unless prescribed by a doctor."
            Think, friend. If you are an idiot, you do not need to convince us of the fact.
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

            Comment

            • SimplySimpleminded
              Unsaved trash, Papist teenaged God mocker
              • Jul 2009
              • 14

              #276
              Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              Nice to do a quote, leaving out the parts you did not like. Typical

              I'll repeat it die to your short attention span.





              My response to the above:
              No! Stop Backtracking!

              Fine! It's not a debate! Throw confetti! Call it what you want!

              Now, How in God's name is marijuana a sin??

              Comment

              • Wide-Open
                Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                True Christian™
                • Nov 2007
                • 18449

                #277
                Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                Originally posted by SimplyEqual View Post
                That's all I wanted, just plausible evidence!
                And now you got it. But friend, if you had truly read the Bible, you would have known this verse. It's a very important chapter, where people tried to trick Jesus.

                15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted how they might entangle Him in His talk. 16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men. 17 Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
                18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? 19 Show Me the tax money.”
                So they brought Him a denarius.
                20 And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
                21 They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”
                And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” 22 When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left Him and went their way.


                The verse seems relevant, I'm just not comprehending it completely.
                Then you need to study your Bible a bit more friend. God wants us to obey the laws of the land. That's one of the reasons why we want to replace the Constitution with the Holy KJV.

                Still, one would say, so it's not a sin to smoke dope in The Netherlands! Well, yes, it would still be a sin, our bodies being our Temples.

                Next to that, it's also common sense: I can't imagine starting a sermon with "Far out, groovy dudes, let's talk Jesus" Dope clouds your mind, and the words of Jesus come out all garbled.

                Furthermore, you have to obey that secular law UNLESS God tells you differently. Killing is a bit frowned upon by the law, and yet God tells us we MUST kill witches. No two ways about it. So, sometimes, we, um, well, that's another story.

                But God never told us: "Thou shalt smoke Black Libanon". It's just not there. So: yes, it is a sin.

                I'm not trying to insult anybody, I'm just being honest, it's hard not to sound crude when responding to such questionable content from your fellow baptist's replies. For real, go back and take a review, you guys made some weird points.
                I'm glad you are already an expert on who is a True Christian™ on here, and who isn't. You accused us of starting this thread. Well, look back: it was started by some unsaved trash. Most of the Pastors have better things to do than reply to obvious trolling.

                I await your apology.
                Psalm 81:10:
                I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

                Comment

                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29433

                  #278
                  Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                  Originally posted by SimplyEqual View Post
                  No! Stop Backtracking!

                  Fine! It's not a debate! Throw confetti! Call it what you want!

                  Now, How in God's name is marijuana a sin??
                  Having a tantrum?

                  Explain what is incongruous between the two highlighted sentences. This is a timed test, you have 30 seconds, beginning..... now!
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

                  Comment

                  • James Hutchins
                    True Christian™
                    Just a Regular Nice Guy
                     
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 29433

                    #279
                    Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                    It has been way more than 30 seconds. What is your excuse this time?
                    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

                    Comment

                    • James Hutchins
                      True Christian™
                      Just a Regular Nice Guy
                       
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 29433

                      #280
                      Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                      Son, did you forget what we were talking about again?
                      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

                      Comment

                      • SimplySimpleminded
                        Unsaved trash, Papist teenaged God mocker
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 14

                        #281
                        Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                        Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
                        And now you got it. But friend, if you had truly read the Bible, you would have known this verse. It's a very important chapter, where people tried to trick Jesus.

                        15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted how they might entangle Him in His talk. 16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men. 17 Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
                        18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? 19 Show Me the tax money.”
                        So they brought Him a denarius.
                        20 And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
                        21 They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”
                        And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” 22 When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left Him and went their way.




                        Then you need to study your Bible a bit more friend. God wants us to obey the laws of the land. That's one of the reasons why we want to replace the Constitution with the Holy KJV.

                        Still, one would say, so it's not a sin to smoke dope in The Netherlands! Well, yes, it would still be a sin, our bodies being our Temples.

                        Next to that, it's also common sense: I can't imagine starting a sermon with "Far out, groovy dudes, let's talk Jesus" Dope clouds your mind, and the words of Jesus come out all garbled.

                        Furthermore, you have to obey that secular law UNLESS God tells you differently. Killing is a bit frowned upon by the law, and yet God tells us we MUST kill witches. No two ways about it. So, sometimes, we, um, well, that's another story.

                        But God never told us: "Thou shalt smoke Black Libanon". It's just not there. So: yes, it is a sin.



                        I'm glad you are already an expert on who is a True Christian™ on here, and who isn't. You accused us of starting this thread. Well, look back: it was started by some unsaved trash. Most of the Pastors have better things to do than reply to obvious trolling.

                        I await your apology.

                        Okay, see that makes sense.

                        Because, we live under our American Government, and they say, by law that we should not smoke, and it does not contradict with the Bible, then it is still a sin, by law.

                        See, Wide-Open, you were only person willing to go that far as to explain with reasonable evidence, why it was a sin. That's why I came here to ask, but instead I found like-minded individuals being persecuted without proper explanation. It got me alittle upset, I'll admit.

                        You were the only one to accept the concept of moving forward with the debate untill one side has conceded or agreed.

                        And I concede.

                        You're post has given me plenty to think about for quite awhile, I'm sure, and may even be enough to convince me to stop my habit of partaking in marijuana recreationally.

                        I am in all honesty personally sorry to you for any insult you took offense to, or offense for your peers, or fellow baptists.

                        This entire conversation has been a victory for you, me, and for God, too, if I choose to continue entertaining my mind with thoughts of abstinence, and closeness to Christ. It just might, too, your reply has given me alot to ponder about; about my personal habits, choices, and opinions.

                        Thank you for having enough tolerance to deal with me openly, and to move forward with the conversation.


                        And James, I don't even know what you're talking about.

                        Comment

                        • Nobar King
                          Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
                          Christ's Guardian
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 23748

                          #282
                          Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                          Here's my humble response: This dopehead is too hopped up to be able to know the difference between your and you're. How can he be expected to understand the Bible or make any valid observations or arguments?

                          Drugs are illegal, so stick to smoking cigarettes.
                          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                          • James Hutchins
                            True Christian™
                            Just a Regular Nice Guy
                             
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 29433

                            #283
                            Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                            Well, young fella, I am not at all surprised you do not know what I am talking about. It was fairly obvious from your ramblings you are a druggie. Irritability, loss of concentration, desire to justify wrong doings.
                            I am surprised W-O spent the time on you as all the information he posted and wrote was already in this and all the other druggie threads that you were too lazy to read. I am sure you will create a new account tomorrow, having forgotten you created one today and ask the same question with the same belligerence.
                            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

                            Comment

                            • SimplySimpleminded
                              Unsaved trash, Papist teenaged God mocker
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 14

                              #284
                              Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                              Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                              Here's my humble response: This dopehead is too hopped up to be able to know the difference between your and you're. How can he be expected to understand the Bible or make any valid observations or arguments?

                              Drugs are illegal, so stick to smoking cigarettes.

                              See??

                              This is exactly what I was talking about.
                              Pre-concieved beliefs that because I recreationally use the drug, I must be blazing one up now, right?

                              You can imagine all you want on what I'm doing, what I look like, or whatever you want.

                              But my points were on solid evidence from your own replies on this very thread.

                              I could've gone to town with that picture of you, (believe me, there's plenty of material there to make quite the insult) but what would it accoplish?

                              Nothing.

                              Which is exactly what Nobar and James accomplished.

                              Nothing.


                              But I'm done, Wide-Open has used complete logic and examplary biblical evidence on how and why marijuana is illegal.

                              He actually made a point.

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                              • James Hutchins
                                True Christian™
                                Just a Regular Nice Guy
                                 
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 29433

                                #285
                                Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

                                Originally posted by SimplyEqual View Post
                                See??

                                This is exactly what I was talking about.
                                Pre-concieved beliefs that because I recreationally use the drug, I must be blazing one up now, right?

                                You can imagine all you want on what I'm doing, what I look like, or whatever you want.

                                But my points were on solid evidence from your own replies on this very thread.

                                I could've gone to town with that picture of you, (believe me, there's plenty of material there to make quite the insult) but what would it accoplish?

                                Nothing.

                                Which is exactly what Nobar and James accomplished.

                                Nothing.


                                But I'm done, Wide-Open has used complete logic and examplary biblical evidence on how and why marijuana is illegal.

                                He actually made a point.
                                Note: Entire quote used to prevent 'misinterpretation'

                                As I have stated numerous times, and Brother Nobar noted, you display all the common tendencies of a druggie. You may not be doing your drugs right now, but the damage has been done. You get all worked up over it being pointed out because you know it is true. Even if W-O had not wasted his precious time with you, the fact that you are irrational, should be a clue that just maybe, being a stoner was not a smart choice. How you can fail to see this is incredible. Not to mention all the spelling and grammar mistakes.
                                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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