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    I recently stumbled upon a picture. It featured a Greek bust of a man who I presume to be Epicurus. A quote was overlaid on this picture. It read: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? I need help understanding what this is saying. Undeniably, evil exists. Undeniably, God loves us. Undeniably, God is all powerful. But this quote is simple. It makes perfect sense. I am terribly confused and need help understanding this.

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    Re: I need help understanding this

    If you use the "search" function I believe you'll find this quote by Epicurus discussed on several occasions.
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



    Run to the KJV1611!

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    • #3
      Re: I need help understanding this

      We've heard it before, son. This ain't our first rodeo.



      Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

      And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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        Re: I need help understanding this

        Originally posted by TomatoSoup View Post
        I recently stumbled upon a picture. It featured a Greek bust of a man who I presume to be Epicurus. A quote was overlaid on this picture. It read: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? I need help understanding what this is saying. Undeniably, evil exists. Undeniably, God loves us. Undeniably, God is all powerful. But this quote is simple. It makes perfect sense. I am terribly confused and need help understanding this.
        If you'd ever read the Bible, you'd know that there is no claim that God is "all good" and always sweet and kind. He openly brags about how He creates evil, and brings death and torture to those who refuse to obey Him. In fact, He allowed the perfectly devout Job to be tortured by Satan, his entire family killed even, just so God could win a bet with Satan. And guess what? Being omniscient, God knew in advance that He would win! He just did it to make Satan feel like a fool.

        Since you haven't read the Bible, and have only heard Feelgood stories about some hippie "love god", naturally you think Epicurus had half a clue about God.
        Bible boring? Nonsense!
        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          Re: I need help understanding this

          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -Epicurus (now burning in hell, Praise Allah the Merciful and Compassionate)

          I will refute this ancient riddle:

          ALLAH can do ANYTHING He wishes, you are scum and an infidel dog for suggesting otherwise!

          Simple as that.
          Surah 4:169 O people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God ... say not "Trinity." Desist! it will be better for you. God is only one God, far be it for Him that He should beget a Son!

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          • #6
            Re: I need help understanding this

            Right, allah-kazoom kaboom can do anything

            You people cannot even spray a little used oil on the ground to keep the dust down. Come back when you are done make me a rug.
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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