[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

Fascinating news today. As well as Boris Cameroon resigning, his brother Boris Johansson (who is actually an American!) also resigned. These were the two heros behind the Brexit plan - the Punch and Judy, if you will, of the political drama.

Turns out no-one really had any clue or wanted to lead Britain out of the UN at all! What fun this will be, now we'll get months of Tories on TV describing in detail every facet of their opinions. I have invested in a new $10k multi terabyte storage system so as not to miss a single minute of it. This is the birth of a nation we are witnessing - the oppressed English will finally get their Freedom™ as Trump recently told them from his golf course in Turnberry in Scots-land.

“People want to take their country back, they want to have independence in a sense, and you see it with Europe, all over Europe, and you’re going to have more than just, in my opinion, more than just what happened last night,” Mr. Trump said. “You’re going to have many other cases where people want to take their borders back, they want to take their monetary back, they want to take a lot of things back, they want to be able to have a country again.”

His message in favor of “Brexit” was not necessarily welcome here in Scotland, whose citizens had overwhelmingly voted to remain part of Europe and were already discussing the possibility of breaking from England as a result of Thursday’s vote.


"Look, if the pound goes down, they’re going to do more business,” Mr. Trump said, when asked during a news conference about the referendum’s market ramifications. “When the pound goes down, more people are coming to Turnberry, frankly.”

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

Ugh, finally maybe someday we will be a Muslim-free country. I also hope we get over this religion stuff altogether so we don't have to deal with so much hate and violence worldwide. It will be soon, the world is getting more secular/atheist every day.

[Harsha Shah]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

Ugh, finally maybe someday we will be a Muslim-free country. I also hope we get over this religion stuff altogether so we don't have to deal with so much hate and violence worldwide. It will be soon, the world is getting more secular/atheist every day.

Yes, Mr. Pig. It is Harsha Shah here. I am answering you. Yes. You seem to be a fellow citizen of the UK. I am thinking that I might be offending you but I would like to ask you some questions, ues. What are you thinking I should be doing? U am not a muslim but a secular Jainist and my family has been living here since my grandparents moved from Gujarat. Yes. The muslims living over here that I am meeting are very secular and they have been coming from the countries of the Commonwealth and not from the EU. What should I be doing in your opinion? Should I still be living in this country?

I am afraid that I may be offending you, yes, but I am thinking that we are going to let England gain its independence from the rest of the UK. Yes. It is sad but beautiful to see them go.

Yes, I am also seeing the secularisation process and I am thinking that I may be a part of that. Yes. I am thinking that for some people the secularisation is leaving a void that they are filling with nationalism and turning inward. I am trying to keep my non-violence and vegetarianism no matter what. Yes.

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

If there is violence in Great Britain, there is violence there because God want's it that way. Just like there are little children dying in agony of hunger and cancer because God want's it that way.

I have no idea what Brexit is, but given that it's from Great Britain, I have no doubt it tastes horrible.

I know this is an old comment, but why does God want children to die horrible deaths? Isn't he supposed to be an "all-loving" God? If not, he is malevolent.


At the end of the day, that really doesn't matter because he doesn't exist anyway.

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

Yes, Mr. Pig. It is Harsha Shah here. I am answering you. Yes. You seem to be a fellow citizen of the UK. I am thinking that I might be offending you but I would like to ask you some questions, ues. What are you thinking I should be doing? U am not a muslim but a secular Jainist and my family has been living here since my grandparents moved from Gujarat. Yes. The muslims living over here that I am meeting are very secular and they have been coming from the countries of the Commonwealth and not from the EU. What should I be doing in your opinion? Should I still be living in this country?

I am afraid that I may be offending you, yes, but I am thinking that we are going to let England gain its independence from the rest of the UK. Yes. It is sad but beautiful to see them go.

Yes, I am also seeing the secularisation process and I am thinking that I may be a part of that. Yes. I am thinking that for some people the secularisation is leaving a void that they are filling with nationalism and turning inward. I am trying to keep my non-violence and vegetarianism no matter what. Yes.

I don't really hate muslims, just your religion and all religion. So no worries. And no, I'm an american. What I meant by "hoping this country will be muslim free" was that it would be free of the religious practice, not the actual people would be deported. I just hope people will just accept reality. It will happen soon, like I said. In maybe half a century, we will outnumber theists. And when we do, we will treat you WAY better than you've treated us.


I think you can believe whatever you want, but it's complete nonsense and it's a pretty dangerous thing to believe. All religion, including Islam, is absurd. I think what you should do is wake up to reality. Now I know that might be hard, trust me it was for me, to snap out of it. That's the result of indoctrination. It's been beaten into your head like a hammer on a nail, and you can't let go. See everyone here? They've been indoctrinated.


Or not. I'm suspicious that this entire site is some stupid joke. If they are, they're pretty damn good at the acting. Because according to these guys, apparently they think God hates: soccer, dolphins, league of legends, you name it.


I'm gonna give you groups of muslims, that claim to be peaceful, the benefit of the doubt. But unless you're opposed to all religion, don't be surprised if you're seen as part of the problem.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

I don't really hate muslims, just your religion

What part of Miss Shah's perfectly clear statement that she is not a muslim but a Jainist did you not understand?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

I know this is an old comment, but why does God want children to die horrible deaths?...

Why should God (if He exists) have to justify Himself to you?

...Isn't he supposed to be an "all-loving" God? If not, he is malevolent...

No, just not omni-benevolent (and no one here would ever make the ludicrous claim that the Bible says He was in any way, shape or form ).

...At the end of the day, that really doesn't matter because he doesn't exist anyway.

Prove it, or stop making that claim.

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

What part of Miss Shah's perfectly clear statement that she is not a muslim but a Jainist did you not understand?

Sorry, got confused.

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

http://www.alternet.org/story/154774/the_top_10_reasons_i_don't_believe_in_god

https://whynogod.wordpress.com/

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ This one is the best, it points out almost every absurdity/contradiction/intolerance/violence & cruelty in the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God

http://godisimaginary.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc

1. There is no proof of God’s existence.
2. There is no proof God even wrote the Bible, especially since it is full of contradictions.
3. There is no proof of Noah’s Ark.
4. There is no proof of the story of Adam and Eve.
5. There is no proof of Jesus or his miracles. No artifacts, no manuscripts, no historical evidence.

-God killed about 25,000,000 people in the Bible, and Satan killed 10.


A few questions:
- How can you tell the voice of God from a voice in your head?
- If God told you to kill someone, like an atheist, would you?
- How can you tell the voice of God from the voice of the devil?
- Why did this "omnipotent god" have to create the universe in 6 days, and if he's "all-powerful" then why did he have to rest on the seventh day?




- If jesus is fully God, then how was he able to be tempted? It says in James 1:13 that God cannot be tempted, but:


Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Matthew 4:1
Jesus ... Being forty days tempted of the devil. Luke 4:1-2
Jesus ... was in all points tempted like as we are. Hebrews 4:14-15


Apparently he was tempted, so he is not God.


These are one of the thousands of contradictions in http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm, give it a read.


As for your question, Didymus Much, why should I worship a God who is not all-loving? If he is, why did the holocaust and 911 happen? Why the Pulse shootings? If he's doing it for punishment, then he sounds like a sick fuck to me. No one deserves to be murdered. For any way.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

...Didymus Much, why should I worship a God who is not all-loving?...

Because logic. Why would you worship a god who is?

If He was all-loving, by definition it wouldn't matter what you did. So any effort put into prayer or obedience to His strictures would be a waste of time.

It's only if God is not omni-benevolent that He's worth worshipping at all.

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

There is also tons of proof for evolution.http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-evolution

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

Pretty soon your nonsense creationist worldview won't be taught in schools nor will the worldview even exist (in maybe a century or a half).

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

http://www.alternet.org/story/154774...believe_in_god

https://whynogod.wordpress.com/

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ This one is the best, it points out almost every absurdity/contradiction/intolerance/violence & cruelty in the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God

http://godisimaginary.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc

1. There is no proof of God’s existence.
2. There is no proof God even wrote the Bible, especially since it is full of contradictions.
3. There is no proof of Noah’s Ark.
4. There is no proof of the story of Adam and Eve.
5. There is no proof of Jesus or his miracles. No artifacts, no manuscripts, no historical evidence.

-God killed about 25,000,000 people in the Bible, and Satan killed 10.


A few questions:
- How can you tell the voice of God from a voice in your head?
- If God told you to kill someone, like an atheist, would you?
- How can you tell the voice of God from the voice of the devil?
- Why did this "omnipotent god" have to create the universe in 6 days, and if he's "all-powerful" then why did he have to rest on the seventh day?




- If jesus is fully God, then how was he able to be tempted? It says in James 1:13 that God cannot be tempted, but:


Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Matthew 4:1
Jesus ... Being forty days tempted of the devil. Luke 4:1-2
Jesus ... was in all points tempted like as we are. Hebrews 4:14-15


Apparently he was tempted, so he is not God.


These are one of the thousands of contradictions in http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm, give it a read.


As for your question, Didymus Much, why should I worship a God who is not all-loving? If he is, why did the holocaust and 911 happen? Why the Pulse shootings? If he's doing it for punishment, then he sounds like a sick piffle to me. No one deserves to be murdered. For any way.

God killing more people than Satan just shows how much more powerful God is. GLORY!

Besides, it's not like it's some random killings. He only kills people who does not love Him. So it's not like it's murder or anything, He tell you straight what He is about, if you turn down His love.

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God

If you make the decision to hate Him, He won't just kill you. He will throw you to hell for eternal torment. Boy, getting tormented for all eternity will surely make you wish that you would not have been such a hateful bastard. GLORY!

Anyway, there are absolutely no contradictions in the Bible. Those that MIGHT seem like contradictions, are just willfully hateful misinterpretations of His perfect word.
You can read my text about this matter here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=94753

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

Sorry can't edit.

Why do we need to worship God if he is all-powerful? Why should I praise him everyday when there is chaos, terrorism, disease, war, death, hunger, etc?

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

God killing more people than Satan just shows how much more powerful God is. GLORY!

Besides, it's not like it's some random killings. He only kills people who does not love Him. So it's not like it's murder or anything, He tell you straight what He is about, if you turn down His love.

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God

If you make the decision to hate Him, He won't just kill you. He will throw you to hell for eternal torment. Boy, getting tormented for all eternity will surely make you wish that you would not have been such a hateful bastard. GLORY!

Anyway, there are absolutely no contradictions in the Bible. Those that MIGHT seem like contradictions, are just willfully hateful misinterpretations of His perfect word.
You can read my text about this matter here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=94753

Why would God kill 20 million people in a flood and then regret it? Isn't he all-knowing?


Why would God set me on fire and torture me for eternity just for not believing in him? Why does he need to be believed in? Can't he judge me by my character and actions?


Bill Gates donated 30$ billion to charity and plans of donating his entire wealth before he dies. He saved 17 million lives due to his efforts against the polio virus. And just for his simple unbelief, he's going to be tortured for eternity. Your God is an asshole.


Did you even read the links I gave you?

[ThatAtheistPig]

Re: Yes! Please pray for reason and non-violence after the Brexit vote

I absolutely doubt 20 million people during the time of Noah all knew about Christianity. Why do they deserve to die when a lot of them were most likely not even aware of Christianity? Oh wait, there was no Christianity back then. Even more proof most of them didn't even know about your God. Even Judaism didn't exist back then. And even if it did, it's obviously wrong because you anti semitics view them as money lovers and satan worshippers.

That being said, if they didn't even know about Christianity/Judaism, then what right does God have to kill them all in the most horrible way? Where's his compassion? And why do they have to die for 2 people's mistakes?