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  • #16
    Re: Help Me Repent

    Originally posted by Silent Shadow View Post
    These people can't offer you forgiveness. See my other posts.
    You're right. We never claimed we could either.
    Only Jesus can offer forgiveness and Salvation.

    What we CAN do however, is help people know Him.
    You're only trying to lead people astray.
    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
    Proverbs 9:12-13

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    • #17
      Re: Help Me Repent

      Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
      You're right. We never claimed we could either.
      Only Jesus can offer forgiveness and Salvation.

      What we CAN do however, is help people know Him.
      You're only trying to lead people astray.
      You may lead people to Jesus, maybe even get them saved, but after that they're all screwed up. Jesus offers salvation. You give them that then damn them for every mistake they make. You all are just so...what's the word...superficial, hollow, no depth whatsoever, it's as if you're all JesusDrones (I made up a new word, ya!).

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      • #18
        Re: Help Me Repent

        Originally posted by Silent Shadow View Post
        You may lead people to Jesus, maybe even get them saved, but after that they're all screwed up. Jesus offers salvation. You give them that then damn them for every mistake they make. You all are just so...what's the word...superficial, hollow, no depth whatsoever, it's as if you're all JesusDrones (I made up a new word, ya!).
        Friend, I can't damn anyone. Only Jesus holds the keys to hell.

        Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

        Now, did you mean to say we judge others?

        In which case, guilty as charged. (Just as you are) Except...

        We are righteous. Can you say the same?

        Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.


        I suppose you are going to bust out Matthew 7:1?

        Have you read Matthew 7:2?

        If we are ready to be judged by the same high standards we expect for others, then it's not really a problem, now is it?

        YIC
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        Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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        • #19
          Re: Help Me Repent

          Originally posted by Silent Shadow View Post
          You may lead people to Jesus, maybe even get them saved, but after that they're all screwed up. Jesus offers salvation. You give them that then damn them for every mistake they make. You all are just so...what's the word....
          The word you're actually looking for is "unquestioning".
          Yes, we are.

          We would never dream of questioning God's perfect motives like you do.
          As clearly shown in this post by you, what it all comes down to isn't what the Bible says:
          It's about the simple fact that you don't want to follow Jesus!
          Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 01-16-2007, 04:42 PM.
          If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
          A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
          Proverbs 9:12-13

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          • #20
            Re: Help Me Repent

            Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
            The word you're actually looking for is "unquestioning".
            Yes, we are.

            We would never dream of questioning God's perfect motives like you do.
            As clearly shown in this post by you, what it all comes down to isn't what the Bible says:
            It's about the simple fact that you don't want to follow Jesus!
            Why am I reminded back to the story of Saul, Agag and Samuel? (Why does it seem I always think of Saul?) (Why am I assuming that BT is also thinking the same thing?)

            1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

            Witches are to be killed! Rebellious children are to be killed.

            God rejects the rebellious.

            Lets read back a verse, shall we?

            22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

            When the LORD tells you to do something, you'd better damn well do it. When He tells, he doesn't give options, "you could do it like this, or this or this... " It's either His way, or it's not His way. Which path do YOU follow?

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            Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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            • #21
              Re: Help Me Repent

              Originally posted by zigzagdance View Post
              It would mean i'd have to go without food for a week if i were to donate any more than $10.
              A week?

              A whole week?



              Friend, a week is nothing. Jesus fasted forty days and forty nights in the wilderness while Satan tempted Him relentlessly with feasts the likes of which your mind cannot conceive, and that was among His lesser sacrifices (relatively speaking). Surely you can last without a Biggie Fries for a less than a fifth of that time, unless you are intentionally mocking Christ. Are you mocking the love and devotion of our LORD and savior? If so, you may be permanently estranged from His saving grace -- and if that is the case, I am thankful to God that I am not you!
              Last edited by Virginia Day Templeton; 01-17-2007, 12:24 AM.
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              • #22
                Re: Help Me Repent

                Originally posted by zigzagdance View Post
                I live in a small apartment in downtown Baltimore. I make very little money at a box manufacturing company. I honestly don't have the money. It would mean i'd have to go without food for a week if i were to donate any more than $10.
                Woa...I thought America's supposed to be economically superior.
                I mean...you can't get ONE meal for ten bucks...I feel very sorry for you.
                The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.
                Exodus 15:3

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                • #23
                  Re: Help Me Repent

                  It looks like we might have a... dusky gentleman on our hands, Brother Tommy. If you catch my drift.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Help Me Repent

                    Originally posted by Brother Love View Post
                    Well, you've chosen your way and "found" out who you want to be. Ok! I just hope you're ready for the end of the road YOU have chosen! And I hope before you DIE you discover YOUR MISTAKE! But, then it will be TOO LATE!! And, I guess you'll soon be doing the ZIG ZAG DANCE in Hell as you are being repeatedly SODOMIZED. But, that MUST be what you want!!


                    REPENT SINNER !!
                    I'm not going to kiss his ass just so he'd accept me. If he doesn't love me for who i am, i don't love him.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Help Me Repent

                      Originally posted by tommy View Post
                      Woa...I thought America's supposed to be economically superior.
                      I mean...you can't get ONE meal for ten bucks...I feel very sorry for you.
                      I can't get a weeks worth of food and supplies for myself off $10. Learn to read, it helps, i swear.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Help Me Repent

                        Why do you assume the problem is with our reading and not your writing?
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                        • #27
                          Re: Help Me Repent

                          Originally posted by zigzagdance View Post
                          I'm not going to kiss his ass just so he'd accept me. If he doesn't love me for who i am, i don't love him.
                          If you're not prepared to be who Jesus wants you to be, then there's no way you can escape Hell. Are you not getting that?

                          Free will is the freedom to choose to follow and worship Jesus, or to go to Hell for eternal punishment. That's how it works.
                          Originally posted by zigzagdance View Post
                          I can't get a weeks worth of food and supplies for myself off $10. Learn to read, it helps, i swear.
                          He's only a beagle, cut him a little slack. You know, kinda like how we are cutting YOU a little slack.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Help Me Repent

                            Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
                            If you're not prepared to be who Jesus wants you to be, then there's no way you can escape Hell. Are you not getting that?

                            Free will is the freedom to choose to follow and worship Jesus, or to go to Hell for eternal punishment. That's how it works.

                            He's only a beagle, cut him a little slack. You know, kinda like how we are cutting YOU a little slack.
                            Maybe you don't understand, I'm not like you. I don't care what your god thinks of me. Because personally, I think he's a bigot. I don't care what he can do to me. I don't care if he damn's me to hell. I'd much rather hold my dignity and constructively contribute to society then piss away my life on earth believing in something that can't be proven.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Help Me Repent

                              Originally posted by zigzagdance View Post
                              Maybe you don't understand, I'm not like you. I don't care what your god thinks of me. Because personally, I think he's a bigot. I don't care what he can do to me. I don't care if he damn's me to hell. I'd much rather hold my dignity and constructively contribute to society then piss away my life on earth believing in something that can't be proven.
                              Thennnnnnn . . . Why are you here?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Help Me Repent

                                To learn about other faiths.

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