[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

I've had a look into this life-after-birth issue, and learned a few things:

Did you know that 1 in 150 pregnancies is an ectopic pregnancy, in which the embryo implants in the Fallopian tubes or other place other than the uterus, and fails? Sometimes the dead embryo even has to be surgically removed!

Yeah, I heard about that. Those can kill the mother if not treated.

Up to 20% of pregnancies spontaneously abort in the first 20 weeks! Many of those women don't eve know they're pregnant! Why, that's 1 in 5 pregnancies, dead without ever having a chance to know Jesus. And they're mighty small, so it's not like they provide much fuel for Hell.

RH negative blood types might make up a component of those...RH neg women with positive-blooded partners/babies, which the embyro is actually seen as a hostile disease and flushed from the system.
Do you guys believe that miscarriages are destined to hell too?
Oh.....wait....yes, that is the xtian belief, no? That miscarried babies of a non-xtian mother automatically go to hell?
How very charming.....not!

Oh, B-J . . . Rachael's husband makes some great BBQ! You really should try it. It's the most tender roast suckling pig you can imagine, the meat falls right off the bone.

So long as it isn't overcooked. Which is why we tend to cook it before any skyclad dancing....otherwise the people who should be watching it get a little...distracted...

Thanks again for the doggie bag, Rachael, the leftovers made a great sandwich this evening! But for some reason, I'm a little dizzy, and the walls are breathing again. Maybe I shoulid lie down.

Oh dear, I did tell the people cooking the sauce to add the shittake mushrooms and not those brown ones. I do hope it was the shittake. Do you see anything unusual?

I'm so glad you liked it all. Such a healthy appetite!

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Actually I do believe in the soul and that there is a point where it gets one. After it is born. Until it is born, it's essentially a potential person, no more.

I've had a look into this life-after-birth issue, and learned a few things:

Did you know that 1 in 150 pregnancies is an ectopic pregnancy, in which the embryo implants in the Fallopian tubes or other place other than the uterus, and fails? Sometimes the dead embryo even has to be surgically removed!

Up to 20% of pregnancies spontaneously abort in the first 20 weeks! Many of those women don't eve know they're pregnant! Why, that's 1 in 5 pregnancies, dead without ever having a chance to know Jesus. And they're mighty small, so it's not like they provide much fuel for Hell.

Oh, B-J . . . Rachael's husband makes some great BBQ! You really should try it. It's the most tender roast suckling pig you can imagine, the meat falls right off the bone.

Thanks again for the doggie bag, Rachael, the leftovers made a great sandwich this evening! But for some reason, I'm a little dizzy, and the walls are breathing again. Maybe I shoulid lie down.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Actually I do believe in the soul and that there is a point where it gets one. After it is born. Until it is born, it's essentially a potential person, no more.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Well really, Zeke!
Just because I happen to be informed as to the subject of abortion doesn't mean I would wish to eat the....uhh.....resulting aborted mass.
Aborted babies would be much better used in stem-cell research than in a pie.

You don't get it pagan harlot, do you? The question isn't when is the baby an independent being, it is when the soul enters the body. Since the soul is clearly independent of the body as indicated by its existence after death arguing "it needs to develop" is weak.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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You know, VanBrainless has made so many vile, perverted posts on our Godly forum, that I thought that I has grown accustomed to her hatred for Christ. But this post takes the cake. She has to go out of her way to describe in excruciating detail exactly how she and her coven can tell if a baby is ripe for roasting? I mean how much is Jesus supposed to take before He just says "ENOUGH" and smites her?

Disgusting.

Well really, Zeke!
Just because I happen to be informed as to the subject of abortion doesn't mean I would wish to eat the....uhh.....resulting aborted mass.
Aborted babies would be much better used in stem-cell research than in a pie.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Until the baby reaches a certain point it is a clump of cells. Notice how abortion is not allowed after a certain point? That's because at that point the baby can be seen as a life. But it is the mother's body, and if she has time to abort, why should anyone tell her otherwise?
What if the baby was conceived from a rape? No sane woman would want to keep that baby.

You know, VanBrainless has made so many vile, perverted posts on our Godly forum, that I thought that I has grown accustomed to her hatred for Christ. But this post takes the cake. She has to go out of her way to describe in excruciating detail exactly how she and her coven can tell if a baby is ripe for roasting? I mean how much is Jesus supposed to take before He just says "ENOUGH" and smites her?

Disgusting.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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The point is that it's not her body, it's the baby's body that's in question! Why do you spend so much time defending the principle of sovereignty over one's body, and then deny that right to babies, who can be murdered by any Jew doctor with a coathanger who happens to be in the vicinity?

Until the baby reaches a certain point it is a clump of cells. Notice how abortion is not allowed after a certain point? That's because at that point the baby can be seen as a life. But it is the mother's body, and if she has time to abort, why should anyone tell her otherwise?
What if the baby was conceived from a rape? No sane woman would want to keep that baby.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

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Had David Berkowitz's (Son of Sam) mother aborted him because he would go on to be a mass-murderer would the world ever had his inspiration story of the true power of God? ( http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/berkowitz/ http://www.thesonofhope.com/ )

What a powerful story! I'm wondering, though, if Berkowitz () also apologized to Jesus for murdering Him, since that's a lot more serious than knocking off some blonde* hookers who had it coming anyway.

*No offense meant, Sister Thumper!

[Brother Temperance]

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Haha, I really don't care if god hates me. Fine with me. Because at the same time he loves me?? Errr....

That is why He is the Almighty God and Master of all Creation, and you are a tedious, smallminded little she-Mick that no-one cares about.

[Born-Again Atheist]

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Haha, I really don't care if god hates me. Fine with me. Because at the same time he loves me?? Errr....

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Awww, it didn't post it in two collumns. Pity. Well, one point for no, all the rest for yes.

Do you know that it is a crime to post other people's work as your own? When you don't give credit, its theivery. Not only does interpol hate that, but so does Jesus.

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

[Born-Again Atheist]

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Awww, it didn't post it in two collumns. Pity. Well, one point for no, all the rest for yes.

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Does God want children to die?No, he doesn't want any to die. Yes, he often kills children and commands others to do so as well. Mt.18:14 "It is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish." Gen.7:21-22 God drowns all children (except for Noah's) in a flood. Gen.19:24 God kills all the children of Sodom and Gomorrah. Gen.22:2 God tells Abraham to kill his son for a burnt offering. Ex.12:30 God murders the Egyptian firstborn children. Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21 Children who are disobedient, or who curse or strike their parents are to be killed. Dt.20:16, Jos.10:40 God ordered the Israelites to kill all of the children in the cities that they invaded. 1 Sam.15:2-3 God orders Saul to kill all of the Amalekite children. 2 Sam.12:15, 18 To punish David for having Uriah killed, God kills David's newborn son. 2 Kg.2:23-24 God sends bears to kill 42 little boys for making fun of Elisha's bald head. Jer.13:13-14 God will make everyone drunk and then "dash the fathers and the sons together." He vows to "not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them." Jer.19:9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other. Ps.135:8, 136:10 God is praised for slaughtering little babies. Ps.137:9 Happiness is smashing your little children against rocks. Ezek.5:10 God will cause fathers to eat their sons and sons to eat their fathers. Hos.9:16 God assures Hosea that he will "slay even the beloved fruit of the womb." Hos.13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and "their women with child shall be ripped up." Zech.13:3 A prophet must be killed by his own parents by "thrusting him through when he prophesieth."


That is, if you consider a foetus a child.

[Mrs. Rogers]

Re: Pray for an end to abortion

Then I would realise that the Lord clearly wanted it to choke up its lungs for some reason. Perhaps it had blasphemed against the Holy Ghost while in the womb, to get God really mad at it.

Dear BT, you have hit the nail on the mewling baby's head; babies are, by nature, selfish and uninterested in Biblical matters ... the LORD suffers their nonchalance everyday, and yet He allows many of them to live.

His lovingkindness knows no bounds.

[Brother Temperance]

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What if you were told that your baby was so sick that within an hour of being born your baby would choke up its lungs?

Then I would realise that the Lord clearly wanted it to choke up its lungs for some reason. Perhaps it had blasphemed against the Holy Ghost while in the womb, to get God really mad at it. If God, in His infinite wisdom, wants a baby to choke up its lungs, who are we to interfere with His plan by killing the baby before it gets a chance?

Sister Virginia, I don't know if that baby will ever have chance to be Saved™. Don't forget, it was born a bastard as the father and daughter would never have been married to each other.

Hmmm, an interesting question - would it be possible for the father to quickly marry his daughter and thus save their baby from Hellfire? Surely Lot's children (who were also his grandchildren) can't have been hellbound?

As to this thread, those babies were most likely aborted for good reason. I am PRO-CHOICE. What kind of life would an unwanted baby have? Not only that, but it is the woman's body. Her body, her choice. I've said it before and I'll say it again. No one but the woman in question should have control over her body. Neither the xtian church nor the state should have jurisdiction over someone's own body.

The point is that it's not her body, it's the baby's body that's in question! Why do you spend so much time defending the principle of sovereignty over one's body, and then deny that right to babies, who can be murdered by any Jew doctor with a coathanger who happens to be in the vicinity?